the right religion

[JacobEzra.]

well, Text? so that i told you that the book should be 100% correct, do you examine the bible is it correct 100%, as if it contains one error you will do it

also what if the text against the tradition, what will you follow?

Quran is not 100% correct and Allah contradicts himself. So whats your point?

 

[Caladan]

Hellllo... ding ding ding! post # 191 !!!

 

[jelly]

do you understand my question islam abduallah?

@islam abduallah
lets just quit beating around the bush, and cut to the chase
where does humor come from?

 

[beenie]

my name is Islam not abduallah, abduallah is a description for me "means the servant of allah"
i'd like to say that the middle east doesn't represent the islam, the population of the Arab muslims to the whole muslim population is 1:6 only, what about malaysia, indonesia (the biggest muslim population country) and turkey, are not they Muslims??, why you don't talk about them, why you don't talk about the Muslims in europe, in UK, in USA, they are also too much,
and what the mistakes Muslims do in Egypt or syria, libya, is asking for freedom a mistake ? i think Europe also pass by that period before. isn't it?

Yes I know that.

Sure, do you find any of these societies to be ideal as to what Westerners are aiming for?

So when is a time in which a majority of Muslim members actually confront the questions posed to them?
you are pointing anywhere else, but your own social challenges. is Islam, helpful or not to your social concerns?

You are not looking at it the same way most of us do. this is not about authentic freedom. revolutions is not something we have not heard of before in the last decades, taking place in either Egypt or Syria. what we see is political turmoil, the fact that you are brainwashed enough to talk about freedom is sad. citizens in your country are dying. there wont be any big changes with the outset of Mubarak. Egypt, your country is still going to be poor. neither Islam nor political movements are going to save you from tyranny. a solid secular middle class is unfortunately for you, the only option for a long term success.

Hellllo... ding ding ding! post # 191 !!!

I quoted the exchange for you because Caladan has a very valid point.

 

[islam abduallah]

Quran is not 100% correct and Allah contradicts himself. So whats your point?

really, where's that? could you give me one example, i'll consider it as a favor

 

[islam abduallah]

do you understand my question islam abduallah?

honestly no

 

[islam abduallah]

Id choose the oldest one, and then the one that goes with it. Instead of a new book many years after the first two books, that contradicts first two books.

maybe the last book is the true as the oldest two are distorted, and why the god after the first book send another one?

 

[islam abduallah]

Through the Gospel

well, how do you know that gospel is the word of god?

 

[islam abduallah]

Why should it be 100% correct? Whoever set that standard? The text is part of the tradition. If the two contradict we use reason and experience.

do you think that's a complete religion?, it's incomplete religion,

a religion from the god should be suitable to all of the mankind, at any place, at any era what ever their traditions they will accept it, otherwise it''s not complete religion and doesn't deserve to be followed

 

[JacobEzra.]

maybe the last book is the true as the oldest two are distorted, and why the god after the first book send another one?

BEcause in the first he promised a new covenant, which came with the second

 

[jelly]

honestly no

which word do you not understand?

where does humor comes from?

 

[JacobEzra.]

well, how do you know that gospel is the word of god?

How do you know Quran is the word of Allah?

 

[JacobEzra.]

really, where's that? could you give me one example, i'll consider it as a favor

Jews are wrong for looking towards Jerusalem to pray, because Allah is everywhere. But Allah wants you to look towards mecca and pray.

 

[sojourner]

well, how do you know that gospel is the word of god?

It's the word of the Church, which is the Body of Christ on earth, who is God.

 

[sojourner]

do you think that's a complete religion?, it's incomplete religion,

a religion from the god should be suitable to all of the mankind, at any place, at any era what ever their traditions they will accept it, otherwise it''s not complete religion and doesn't deserve to be followed

Xy is suitable to all humanity.

 

[Draka]

No religion is suitable to all humanity. Otherwise there would only be one religion.

 

[sojourner]

No religion is suitable to all humanity. Otherwise there would only be one religion.

Not necessarily. Just because something is suitable does not mean it's preferred.

 

[Draka]

Not necessarily. Just because something is suitable does not mean it's preferred.

If it was suitable it wouldn't have rules against the natural order of things in the world. If it was suitable it wouldn't go against what society deems acceptable. If it was universally suitable then it would be changeable and flexible to suit advances of societal and scientific understanding throughout time. No religion with a set holy book can claim any of that.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Xy is suitable to all humanity.

I guess rationalists must fall outside of humanity.

 

[Storm]

I think this latest debate is an issue of different semantics. "Suitable," in my book, doesn't mean "perfect" so much as "adequate."