Is he saying it can be made true for us by elevating women? What about my belief that it can happen only by de-elevating the non-female wing. War won't do it.
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The Role of Women in establishing Peace
- Thread starter loverofhumanity
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The only strength that matters is weaponry because all other strength isn't strength.
Weapons means war forever.
Weapons means war forever.
[satire] Yes, we women are so far behind men in the acquisition of virtues and perfections. {We obviously have much catching up to do so we can go fight wars too!} [/satire]
I think it will work both ways. Elevating women will likely result in curbing man's aggressive response to many problems and forcing him to consult at the table. And women will bring qualities that enable men to solve problems without going to war every time.
Also when women have more influence the military budget will likely be targeted by women to be reduced and much more spent on families and things like healthcare, education and employment. Women will want the budget emphasis to be placed on humanitarian and family oriented projects for children and youth instead of useless weapons of destruction.
Are you unaware that most of the World believes in destruction of some sort or another?
It is being held up as the truth by the highest respected members of the human race.
Women at one time were not allowed to speak. (See below) Also in Islam too.
Now women must be given a voice and when enough women have a voice, there will be a very strong voice in the world against war that men will no longer be able to ignore. For women in general, except for some rare exceptions, are peaceful by nature and are more interested in family and surviving than the shedding of blood.
1 Corinthians 14-34
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Do you think so?
I thought most people just want to live a comfortable and healthy life. Are highly respected people promoting violence? You mean people like the Pope or the Queen?
Anyone who holds true all the Bible is promoting violence. I think so, yes. The Pope, definitely; not so much "the Queen". (which one do you think is "Queen"?)
Who is the Queen?
Queen of England. Yes there are some cheeses in the Bible which are violent.
It is not referring to instances of violence. It means to take something believed to be "what God says", but God doesn't say it, is to do violence against The Way of God. It is the opposite of doing the will of God. Matthew 6:9-13
This is not the case. The Baha'i administrative order is composed of elected assembly's locally, nationally and internationally. There are nearly 200 National Spiritual Assemblies and most likely well over 20,000 local spiritual assemblies worldwide. These assembles are well represented by men and women. Being a grass roots community organisation this is where most of the decision making happens or with group or individuals.
Bahá'í statistics - Wikipedia
arthra
Baha'i
Back in the early twentieth century women had few professional opportunities and couldn't vote.. They were relegated to specific roles in employment and had lower wages. Over the past ninety years or so we've seen a revolution in some countries but there is still much that needs to be accomplished.
What are some of the goals for the advancement of women?
Universal education for men and women..
Equal opportunity for women to work..which includes vocational training
Equal legal rights and prerogatives for women and men
What are some of the goals for the advancement of women?
Universal education for men and women..
Equal opportunity for women to work..which includes vocational training
Equal legal rights and prerogatives for women and men
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Look..... to state that women would cause less wars, but to ban them from holding any seat on a Bahai World government because they could not make the tough decision to engage in war is a level of Orwellian Doublethink that could only be described by me as terrifying.
That's a foundation for leadership psychosis.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
........ but various functions, even at local and national house-of-justice levels will be carried out by males, as stipulated in the Bahai writings.
Now, if you don't know that, please just ask for guidance and I will dig it all out yet again.
The 'Men can't have babires, and Women can't make seriously tough decisions' attitude of Bahai needs to be battered (deep fried and served with Cod and mushy peas....
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oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Now list all the male rules in history and I'm certain the number of females leaders would not come remotely close to even 1 % of the total
Yep. But look at how many of that small % were hard as nails.
Look up the footage of how Prime Minister Thatcher's government sent mounted police in to charge the coal miner's picket lines in the 83' strikes. Terrifying!
Look at her response to the Falklands invasion! Look at the lives lost in that conflict, and for what? All I can see that we got out of the Falklands was the old SS Great Britain.....
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
I don't know about wings, but my left knee is seriously dodgy.
......... and myopia!
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
...... very very good points.
For instance, the history of Christian Rulers and Nations is just one long list of inhuman outrages, yet they nearly all claimed that they were working for Jesus.
........ but various functions, even at local and national house-of-justice levels will be carried out by males, as stipulated in the Bahai writings.
Now, if you don't know that, please just ask for guidance and I will dig it all out yet again.
The 'Men can't have babires, and Women can't make seriously tough decisions' attitude of Bahai needs to be battered (deep fried and served with Cod and mushy peas....
All the best with that. I've spent 17 years serving on Local Spiritual Assemblies where men and women have served in all capacities such as chairman, secretary, and treasurer but I'd love to hear it.
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Yep. But look at how many of that small % were hard as nails.
Look up the footage of how Prime Minister Thatcher's government sent mounted police in to charge the coal miner's picket lines in the 83' strikes. Terrifying!
Look at her response to the Falklands invasion! Look at the lives lost in that conflict, and for what? All I can see that we got out of the Falklands was the old SS Great Britain.....
She was tough all right but that's the whole point. Women end up becoming more like men. It's the culture that needs to change to better integrate feminine qualities.
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