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The Supreme Court will decide if Donald Trump can be kept off 2024 presidential ballots

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Then would you be fine with Joe Biden being charged with nearly 100 criminal offenses after he leaves office, even if done to make sure he wouldn't be able to run for president again in 2028?
Joe Biden is not running for President again in 2028 no matter what happens. He will either be ineligible, or he will be 86, or he will be dead.

But yes, I am ok with him being charged with what ever crime any grand jury thinks he should be charged with.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
You replied to your own post. :)
Not the first time I have been caught talking to myself. Thank you.

Let's try again.
Is having a political opponent killed considered to be a duty of the office of President?
So there is a line. Fantastic.

If it matters whether or not it is in the line of duty then it is not absolute immunity.

So again we are in agreement. Joe Biden should not have absolute immunity. Qualified immunity, perhaps, I am not even sure about that. But absolute immunity, absolutely not!
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Not the first time I have been caught talking to myself. Thank you.

Let's try again.

So there is a line. Fantastic.

If it matters whether or not it is in the line of duty then it is not absolute immunity.

So again we are in agreement. Joe Biden should not have absolute immunity. Qualified immunity, perhaps, I am not even sure about that. But absolute immunity, absolutely not!
I suppose "qualified" might be what I'm referring to. For example, Trump had an Iranian terrorist killed, and that was in the line of his duty since it's was a national defense interest. If he were to have had Biden killed just before the 2020 election, that would have been different.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I doubt the dems would care if it got messy. Going after the top Republican contender for president to put him in prison for 730 years just before the next election has been messy, but they don't care, no matter how it makes them look like the leadership of Russia, North Korea, Cuba, or Venezuela.
The Democrats were not the one that had an insurrection.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Then would you be fine with Joe Biden being charged with nearly 100 criminal offenses after he leaves office, even if done to make sure he wouldn't be able to run for president again in 2028?
For what? Trump was under investigation for various crimes before he took office. That was probably one of the reasons that he ran. He managed to put a hold on them. Of course he committed even more crimes while running and in office. There are reasonable charges against Trump, the Democrats cannot seem to come up with even one against Biden. Haven't you been following their debacle in the House at all?
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Yes, it was a compromise with actions that both sides wanted. But Trump does not care about the border problem. He only wants to get elected and he is trying to use that as a way to do so. As you know his supporters are not that bright. They will probably forget that he was the one that kept it a problem.
Who knows? I am not a Trump supporter myself.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
What are you talking about? The only one trying to prevent progress has been the Republicans.
Oh good grief, they are all a bunch of idiots trying to stay in power. Until you can see that, we can't have a discussion about this matter. I despise all of them. TERM LIMITS, ANYONE?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Oh good grief, they are all a bunch of idiots trying to stay in power. Until you can see that, we can't have a discussion about this matter. I despise all of them. TERM LIMITS, ANYONE?
Term limits have been tried and found to be unconstitutional by a far more honest USSC than the one that we have now. They would not stand a a snowballs chance in heck with the current one. And I should have added "lately". The Republican party has not always been the party of a basketful of deplorables. That is almost totally Trumpism that causes that.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
So what? That does not make you an expert. You seem to think that refugees keep coming back. How will you support that claim?

You mean illegal immigrants? Like this:

You mean illegal immgrants? Like this:
First thing that showed up when I asked Bing if illegal immigrants keep coming back to the US by the way. The redicivism rate is around 27 percent according to this:
The statistics can be confusing, and a little messy. For one, the number of apprehensions at the border includes people who have tried to cross more than once. In fiscal year 2021, the recidivism rate was 27%, according to the most recent figures from U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
 
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Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Term limits have been tried and found to be unconstitutional by a far more honest USSC than the one that we have now. They would not stand a a snowballs chance in heck with the current one. And I should have added "lately". The Republican party has not always been the party of a basketful of deplorables. That is almost totally Trumpism that causes that.
Let's make them constitutional then. You know, with a constitutional AMENDMENT. People are living longer. I say let's start making some changes based on that. I mean, I will be nearly 70 before I can get my full SS benefits, even though I have been putting in for decades. So let's do this.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
The Republican party has not always been the party of a basketful of deplorables. That is almost totally Trumpism that causes that.
No. It is true that the Republican party has not always been a "basketful of deplorables", but it has been going on longer than Trump has been involved. I would say it started going down hill in the late 1980's with conservative talk radio and was completely in the basket by the 2000's with the tea party. Trump didn't start it, but he did make it even worse.

I think the Republican Party made Trump worse, and he made them worse. A symbiotic relationship of garbage.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
No. It is true that the Republican party has not always been a "basketful of deplorables", but it has been going on longer than Trump has been involved. I would say it started going down hill in the late 1980's with conservative talk radio and was completely in the basket by the 2000's with the tea party. Trump didn't start it, but he did make it even worse.

I think the Republican Party made Trump worse, and he made them worse. A symbiotic relationship of garbage.
And you are not even living here! You sure do seem invested in American politics for someone who is not even living in this country.
 
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