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"The Top 10 Claims Made by Creationists to Counter Scientific Theories"

Thermos aquaticus

Well-Known Member
A Christian that is a true Christian will know they don't go to the world, But to the bible for their guidance on all things.
Unto which you just showed yourself of not knowing.

Are you saying that it is impossible to be both a scientist and a Christian?

Also, you seem to be indicating that the evidence found in the world around us contradicts what is found in the Bible. If the evidence and the Bible did agree I am sure you wouldn't be ignoring the evidence from the world around us.
 

Thermos aquaticus

Well-Known Member
My education doesn't come from man's teachings.

Being that the Bible was written by men, your education did come from man's teachings.

You seem to think that science is all there is.
There's more to learning than you think.
But you wouldn't have any idea. There's more to learning than science can offer.

Then you believe the Sun moves about the Earth?

"First, . . . to want to affirm that in reality the sun is at the center of the world and only turns on itself without moving from east to west, and the earth . . . revolves with great speed about the sun . . . is a very dangerous thing, likely not only to irritate all scholastic philosophers and theologians, but also to harm the Holy Faith by rendering Holy Scripture false."--Cardinal Bellarmine, 1615
 

Looncall

Well-Known Member
Just because you say the flood of Noah's didn't happen, doesn't make it so.
Oh by the way, you do know there was two floods, Therefore the flood of Noah's wasn't the only flood of water that covered the earth. But then you wouldn't know this.

Typical goddist dodge.
Anyhow, a flood such as described would have left traces. Non are found, so no flood.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
As to who said anything about a young earth.
The dinosaurs bones proves the earth is alot older than what the young earth creationist realize.
Actually the earth is billions of years old and not 6000 years old as the young earth creationist are taught it is.

The claims in the Bible proves the earth is alot older than 6000 years old.
The bible proves the earth is billions of years old.

You make claims, but have no idea what the Bible supports or confirm's.

The dinosaurs bones are here to give witness to the fact, that the earth is alot older than what people are being taught.

You do know that the Bible even gives Prophecy about people like yourself that would come condemning what they don't understand or have knowledge about.
You make all of these outrageous, unsubstantiated claims about my lack of knowledge. Yet, it is abundantly clear I know far more about the Bible and it's history than you do. Your vain insults are pathetic.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You make all of these outrageous, unsubstantiated claims about my lack of knowledge. Yet, it is abundantly clear I know far more about the Bible and it's history than you do. Your vain insults are pathetic.

Like many extreme Christians he appears to suffer from the belief that only his interpretations are correct, yet he cannot defend them. Instead he simply falls back on the you can't understand the Bible because you do not believe trope. For some reason he thinks that is a valid argument to use against fellow Christians too. That is the real headshaker.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
You don't need the Bible to know that there is a chair in your room, or that the sun is up. Start from what you can know and test all of your ideas.

I *do* have an idea what lengths people will go through to not have to deal with the inadequacies of the Bible and other religious texts. They commonly decide to deny reality for their myths.

The Bible is a book, produced by men, and showing how they thought at certain points of time. it is interesting as a way into the thoughts of some people. But it isn't reliable as a way of determining reality.

But you have no idea or clue, Who exactly those men are.
Isn't it amazing that those men gave Prophecy 2000 years ago, that's coming to be fulfilled, that people like yourself, would come mocking what they don't have a clue or idea about, Now that is amazing.
So keep talking, your just fulfilling Prophecy. That was given 2000 years ago.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
But you have no idea or clue, Who exactly those men are.
Isn't it amazing that those men gave Prophecy 2000 years ago, that's coming to be fulfilled, that people like yourself, would come mocking what they don't have a clue or idea about, Now that is amazing.
So keep talking, your just fulfilling Prophecy. That was given 2000 years ago.

Yes, it's perfect prophecy to predict that nonsense will be pointed out to be nonsense. Or that wars will happen.

These standards for prophecy are remarkably low.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
You make all of these outrageous, unsubstantiated claims about my lack of knowledge. Yet, it is abundantly clear I know far more about the Bible and it's history than you do. Your vain insults are pathetic.

Seeing that you made the statement, So by all means, can you put everything together from the beginning to the end, what is to happen.
Now what I am talking about, is from the fall of Satan all the way to the end times, As given in the book of Revelation.
Can you explain exactly what is the last Prophecy that is to happen that brings about the return of Christ Jesus.
What is that last Prophecy.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yes, it's perfect prophecy to predict that nonsense will be pointed out to be nonsense. Or that wars will happen.

These standards for prophecy are remarkably low.
Christianity is not the only religion with prophesies and warnings that there will be non-believers. It is almost as if the authors knew that they were peddling nonsense and tried to write verses attacking the rational thinkers. Somehow this is supposedly evidence for their versions of god.

And yes, I have noted to include that in the Holy Book of Subduction when it comes out. This is a perfect site if one wants to start one's own religion. How to pass off unsupported myth as fact can be learned here. How to make people ashamed for their natural biological urges and putting that shame to use in promoting one's religion can be learned. And how little one has to promise to others to get them to believe. Simply amazing.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Seeing that you made the statement, So by all means, can you put everything together from the beginning to the end, what is to happen.
Now what I am talking about, is from the fall of Satan all the way to the end times, As given in the book of Revelation.
Can you explain exactly what is the last Prophecy that is to happen that brings about the return of Christ Jesus.
What is that last Prophecy.


Prophecies that have to be reinterpreted after the fact are not prophecies. That is merely confirmation bias (note to self, include many such "prophecies" in book). Excessively vague prophecies can be claimed to be fulfilled time after time since they are close enough in the opinion of believers. The Bible is rather lacking in real prophecies of any sort, except for failed ones of course.
 

Thermos aquaticus

Well-Known Member
But you have no idea or clue, Who exactly those men are.
Isn't it amazing that those men gave Prophecy 2000 years ago, that's coming to be fulfilled, that people like yourself, would come mocking what they don't have a clue or idea about, Now that is amazing.
So keep talking, your just fulfilling Prophecy. That was given 2000 years ago.

If you are using a literal translation, then the prophecies include finding geologic evidence of a global flood, evidence for a young Earth, and evidence for separate creation of species or kinds. We have found evidence to the contrary. Therefore, the prophecies failed.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Yes, it's perfect prophecy to predict that nonsense will be pointed out to be nonsense. Or that wars will happen.

These standards for prophecy are remarkably low.

Like I said, all your doing for every time you say anything, your just fulfilling Prophecy and you don't even know it. Now that's what's amazing
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
If you are using a literal translation, then the prophecies include finding geologic evidence of a global flood, evidence for a young Earth, and evidence for separate creation of species or kinds. We have found evidence to the contrary. Therefore, the prophecies failed.

First as to where do you come by a young earth ?
As to how do you come by the earth as being young, When in fact the earth is billions of years old.if not older. When in fact there's nothing in the Bible that says the earth as being a young earth or even states that the earth as being only 6000 years old.

I don't know what you call a failed Prophecy, when in fact your fulfilling Prophecy for every time you talk.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
If you are using a literal translation, then the prophecies include finding geologic evidence of a global flood, evidence for a young Earth, and evidence for separate creation of species or kinds. We have found evidence to the contrary. Therefore, the prophecies failed.

That all depends on what flood your referring to. It's evidence that you have no idea or clue that there were two floods of water that came upon the earth.
So which flood are you in reference to ?
 

Thermos aquaticus

Well-Known Member
First as to where do you come by a young earth ?

Surely you've heard of young earth creationism?

Young Earth creationism - Wikipedia

I don't know what you call a failed Prophecy, when in fact your fulfilling Prophecy for every time you talk.

Are you claiming that there was a global flood in the last 100,000 years or so? Are you saying that species or kinds were created separately and did not evolve from a universal common ancestor?
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Surely you've heard of young earth creationism?

Young Earth creationism - Wikipedia

Are you claiming that there was a global flood in the last 100,000 years or so? Are you saying that species or kinds were created separately and did not evolve from a universal common ancestor?


Yeah I've heard about those young earth creationist.
But they only go by what their Pastor's Preachers will tell them.

The earth is billions of years old, if not older.
Actually the global flood that I'm in reference to, happen more than a millions of years ago. The flood that I'm talking about, was caused by a meteorite from space that hit out in the Mexican desert, some millions of years ago that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs, which caused volcanoes to erupt and the oceans to over flow the earth.
We know by the findings, that a Meteorite hit the earth so hard, that destroyed all life on the earth. Which brought the extinction of the dinosaurs.
Which scientist have found fossils of dinosaurs buried in volcanic ash. In the State of Utah in the desert.
And scientist have even found sea shells buried in the rocks in the desert mountains
of California Mountains, which are 300 miles from the Pacific Sea.

So how exactly did those sea shells get from the Pacific ocean 300 miles away, get all the way up into the mountains rocks.
 

Thermos aquaticus

Well-Known Member
Actually the global flood that I'm in reference to, happen more than a millions of years ago. The flood that I'm talking about, was caused by a meteorite from space that hit out in the Mexican desert, some millions of years ago that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs, which caused volcanoes to erupt and the oceans to over flow the earth.
We know by the findings, that a Meteorite hit the earth so hard, that destroyed all life on the earth. Which brought the extinction of the dinosaurs.

Are you talking about the findings found in the world around us? That is where you learned about this?
 
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