"The Top 10 Claims Made by Creationists to Counter Scientific Theories"

[Subduction Zone]

Yeah I've heard about those young earth creationist.
But they only go by what their Pastor's Preachers will tell them.

The earth is billions of years old, if not older.
Actually the global flood that I'm in reference to, happen more than a millions of years ago. The flood that I'm talking about, was caused by a meteorite from space that hit out in the Mexican desert, some millions of years ago that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs, which caused volcanoes to erupt and the oceans to over flow the earth.
We know by the findings, that a Meteorite hit the earth so hard, that destroyed all life on the earth. Which brought the extinction of the dinosaurs.
Which scientist have found fossils of dinosaurs buried in volcanic ash. In the State of Utah in the desert.
And scientist have even found sea shells buried in the rocks in the desert mountains
of California Mountains, which are 300 miles from the Pacific Sea.

So how exactly did those sea shells get from the Pacific ocean 300 miles away, get all the way up into the mountains rocks.

You need to take a basic course in geology. Millions of years ago those were shallow seas. It was a depostional environment. As time went on the continental plates move and often collide with other plates, that will result in mountain building.

The shells on mountains are evidence against a flood. A flood event would have only made for one very thin single layer of fossils. Instead thousands upon thousands of beds of fossilized sea life can be found. Thousands, if not millions of times more life than could live at any one time. They could not be from a single year long flood.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Noah's flood.

You see alot of people don't even know about the first flood of water. That happened around about a million of years ago, Which caused the extinction of the dinosaurs
All people know is the flood of Noah's, Not realizing that there were another flood of water way before Noah ever came into existence. Which was before this world that we live in came into existence.

Unto which the Bible speaks about both floods of water.
Seeing people have a one track mind, that they over look the fact that there were two floods of water that came upon the earth

The first flood of water, would make the flood of Noah's look like a small child's pool of water.

Let's take the giant mammoth, which is nothing more than a giant elephant.
Now why would the Giant Mammoth be doing up in the North Antarctica, which is nothing more than ice and snow.
Which the Giant Mammoth is a vegetarian
that eats grass and things that are green.

But is found way up in North in Antarctica
Now why is this.
Could it be, because when a Meteorite hit the earth, it caused what once was dry ground and green grass, is now covered over by ice and snow.
Maybe this is why the Giant Mammoth is found up in the North Antarctica.
That at one time the North Antarctica, was green grass and when the Meteorite hit the earth, it caused the North Antarctica to freeze over, which killed the Giant Mammoth in ice and snow.

Why else would the Giant Mammoth be doing up in the North Antarctica, which the Giant Mammoth is a vegetarian. Where there is no vegetation to eat, which has nothing but ice and snow.
Do you or anyone find the elephants of to day, way up where's there's ice and snow, of course not, elephants are vegetarians, So they wouldn't be found no where close to the North Antarctica
So in like manner, Why would the Giant Mammoth's be doing way up in the North Antarctica. Which are Vegetarians themselves.
Good question right.

 

[exchemist]

Being that the Bible was written by men, your education did come from man's teachings.



Then you believe the Sun moves about the Earth?

"First, . . . to want to affirm that in reality the sun is at the center of the world and only turns on itself without moving from east to west, and the earth . . . revolves with great speed about the sun . . . is a very dangerous thing, likely not only to irritate all scholastic philosophers and theologians, but also to harm the Holy Faith by rendering Holy Scripture false."--Cardinal Bellarmine, 1615

The church was going backwards at that point. Especially sad because a previous pope, Clement VII, had had the Copernican system explained to him, in a series of lectures by his secretary. The pope was so pleased with it that gave a present to the secretary, a man called Widmanstetter. This was in 1533, seventy years earlier! Copernicus was a kind of clergyman, which may have helped.

What may have happened is that Reformation, and then the Counter-Reformation, intervened, and everyone got terribly twitchy about unorthodox ideas. And Galileo was apparently not the best diplomat, which didn't help. So one step forward, two steps back, in this case.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You see alot of people don't even know about the first flood of water. That happened around about a million of years ago, Which caused the extinction of the dinosaurs
All people know is the flood of Noah's, Not realizing that there were another flood of water way before Noah ever came into existence. Which was before this world that we live in came into existence.

Unto which the Bible speaks about both of them.
Seeing people have a one track mind, that they over look the fact that there were two floods of water that came upon the earth

The first flood of water, would make the flood of Noah's look like a small child's pool of water.

Let's take the giant mammoth, which is nothing more than a giant elephant.
Now why would the Giant Mammoth be doing up in the North Antarctica, which is nothing more than ice and snow.
Which the Giant Mammoth is a vegetarian
that eats grass and things that are green.

But is found way up in North in Antarctica
Now why is this.
Could it be, because when a Meteorite hit the earth, it caused what once was dry ground and green grass, is now covered over by ice and snow.
Maybe this is why the Giant Mammoth is found up in the North Antarctica.
That at one time the North Antarctica, was green grass and when the Meteorite hit the earth, it caused the North Antarctica to freeze over, which killed the Giant Mammoth in ice and snow.

Why else would the Giant Mammoth be doing up in the North Antarctica, which the Giant Mammoth is a vegetarian. Where there is no vegetation to eat, which has nothing but ice and snow.

Wrong, the non-avian dinosaurs died out about 65 million years ago and it was not a flood that killed them:

Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event - Wikipedia

And you can't find any kind of mammoth in "North Antarctica". And they were not killed by the meteorite. Why don't you do at least a tiny bit of research before you make your complete ignorance known to all?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Are you talking about the findings found in the world around us? That is where you learned about this?

Nope, what I learned is from the bible, the bible explains it all.

 

[exchemist]

Wrong, the non-avian dinosaurs died out about 65 million years ago and it was not a flood that killed them:

Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event - Wikipedia

And you can't find any kind of mammoth in "North Antarctica". And they were not killed by the meteorite. Why don't you do at least a tiny bit of research before you make your complete ignorance known to all?

Because this person uses only the bible as a source of information, as we have already established.

 

[Audie]

You see alot of people don't even know about the first flood of water. That happened around about a million of years ago, Which caused the extinction of the dinosaurs
All people know is the flood of Noah's, Not realizing that there were another flood of water way before Noah ever came into existence. Which was before this world that we live in came into existence.

Unto which the Bible speaks about both floods of water.
Seeing people have a one track mind, that they over look the fact that there were two floods of water that came upon the earth

The first flood of water, would make the flood of Noah's look like a small child's pool of water.

Let's take the giant mammoth, which is nothing more than a giant elephant.
Now why would the Giant Mammoth be doing up in the North Antarctica, which is nothing more than ice and snow.
Which the Giant Mammoth is a vegetarian
that eats grass and things that are green.

But is found way up in North in Antarctica
Now why is this.
Could it be, because when a Meteorite hit the earth, it caused what once was dry ground and green grass, is now covered over by ice and snow.
Maybe this is why the Giant Mammoth is found up in the North Antarctica.
That at one time the North Antarctica, was green grass and when the Meteorite hit the earth, it caused the North Antarctica to freeze over, which killed the Giant Mammoth in ice and snow.

Why else would the Giant Mammoth be doing up in the North Antarctica, which the Giant Mammoth is a vegetarian. Where there is no vegetation to eat, which has nothing but ice and snow.
Do you or anyone find the elephants of to day, way up where's there's ice and snow, of course not, elephants are vegetarians, So they wouldn't be found no where close to the North Antarctica
So in like manner, Why would the Giant Mammoth's be doing way up in the North Antarctica. Which are Vegetarians themselves.
Good question right.

Not a real good question. There was not "Giant Mammoth" btw, but never mind.
Reindeer / caribou and muskoxen live high above the arctic circle now.

Here is a q for you: how do they live on "nothing but ice and snow"?

 

[exchemist]

Not a real good question. There was not "Giant Mammoth" btw, but never mind.
Reindeer / caribou and muskoxen live high above the arctic circle now.

Here is a q for you: how do they live on "nothing but ice and snow"?

Can't answer that. It's not in the bible, you see.

And observing nature, well, that's....that's....that's just darn' un-Christian!

 

[Subduction Zone]

Not a real good question. There was not "Giant Mammoth" btw, but never mind.
Reindeer / caribou and muskoxen live high above the arctic circle now.

Here is a q for you: how do they live on "nothing but ice and snow"?

When no one is looking they dig up frozen mammoths and have a barbecue.

 

[ecco]

A Christian that is a true Christian will know they don't go to the world, But to the bible for their guidance on all things.
Unto which you just showed yourself of not knowing.

So you, an anonymous poster in a thread in a forum, decide what is and what is not a "True Christian".
I guess when you read your bible you missed this part...

Matthew 7:1-3 King James Version (KJV)
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?​

 

[Faithofchristian]

Not a real good question. There was not "Giant Mammoth" btw, but never mind.
Reindeer / caribou and muskoxen live high above the arctic circle now.

Here is a q for you: how do they live on "nothing but ice and snow"?

That's an easy question to answer, the caribou do not live way up into the North Antarctica, where the Giant Mammoth was found, they live much closer down from the Northern Antarctica. The Caribou live around in Alaska moutains.
Caribou, also called reindeer, are found in northern regions of North America, Europe, Asia, and Greenland. As summer approaches, caribou herds head north in one of the world's great large-animal migrations. They may travel more than 600 miles along welltrod annual routes.

Today caribou can be found in parts of North America, Russia and Scandinavia. In the United States, two subspecies can be found. Rangifer tarandus granti or barren ground caribou, more well-known due to their long-distance migrations, total 950,000 and occur throughout Alaska and northern Canada.
http://nationalgeographic.com/

There's your answer.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

You see alot of people don't even know about the first flood of water. That happened around about a million of years ago, Which caused the extinction of the dinosaurs

It was a meteor strike, not a flood, that killed off the dinosaurs. There was also a supervolcano going off at the same time which is also thought to be part of the extinction event.

Also, where in the Bible does it say that there was a flood millions of years ago that killed off the dinosaurs?

Let's take the giant mammoth, which is nothing more than a giant elephant.
Now why would the Giant Mammoth be doing up in the North Antarctica, which is nothing more than ice and snow.
Which the Giant Mammoth is a vegetarian
that eats grass and things that are green.

You mean the same place massive herds of vegetarians like caribou and reindeer currently thrive?

Could it be, because when a Meteorite hit the earth, it caused what once was dry ground and green grass, is now covered over by ice and snow.

Mammoths roamed the earth just 20,000 years ago. The K/T meteorite impact was 65 million years ago. How in the world are those two things related?

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

That's an easy question to answer, the caribou do not live way up into the North Antarctica, where the Giant Mammoth was found, they live much closer down from the Northern Antarctica. The Caribou live around in Alaska moutains.
Caribou, also called reindeer, are found in northern regions of North America, Europe, Asia, and Greenland. As summer approaches, caribou herds head north in one of the world's great large-animal migrations. They may travel more than 600 miles along welltrod annual routes.

Today caribou can be found in parts of North America, Russia and Scandinavia. In the United States, two subspecies can be found. Rangifer tarandus granti or barren ground caribou, more well-known due to their long-distance migrations, total 950,000 and occur throughout Alaska and northern Canada.

There's your answer.

First, Antarctica is in the south. The Arctic is in the north.

Second, mammoths were found in the same areas as we now find caribou and reindeer.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

Nope, what I learned is from the bible, the bible explains it all.

Where in the bible do we find the date for the K/T meteor impact?

 

[Faithofchristian]

It was a meteor strike, not a flood, that killed off the dinosaurs. There was also a supervolcano going off at the same time which is also thought to be part of the extinction event.

Also, where in the Bible does it say that there was a flood millions of years ago that killed off the dinosaurs?



You mean the same place massive herds of vegetarians like caribou and reindeer currently thrive?



Mammoths roamed the earth just 20,000 years ago. The K/T meteorite impact was 65 million years ago. How in the world are those two things related?

You just showed yourself as not knowing what the Bible says or what it confirm's.
Had you, then you would haved found that the Bible speaks about the destruction of the world that then was, of the dinosaurs.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

You just showed yourself as not knowing what the Bible says or what it confirm's.
Had you, then you would haved found that the Bible speaks about the destruction of the world that then was, of the dinosaurs.

You just showed that the Bible says nothing about the K/T meteor impact because you were unable to show where the Bible talks about it.

 

[Faithofchristian]

First, Antarctica is in the south. The Arctic is in the north.

Second, mammoths were found in the same areas as we now find caribou and reindeer.

So you say, but it still doesn't change a thing

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

So you say, but it still doesn't change a thing

I can see that no amount of facts or evidence will change your mind. That much is for sure.

 

[Faithofchristian]

You just showed that the Bible says nothing about the K/T meteor impact because you were unable to show where the Bible talks about it.

Maybe had you paid attention, I didn't say anything about the Bible said anything about a Meteorite. I said the Meteorite could haved caused the oceans to over flow over the earth and caused volcanos to erupt which caused the extinction of the dinosaurs and other life.
Which the Bible supports the first earth age to be destroyed by a giant flood of water from the oceans. And this is not the flood of Noah's either.

 

[Audie]

That's an easy question to answer, the caribou do not live way up into the North Antarctica, where the Giant Mammoth was found, they live much closer down from the Northern Antarctica. The Caribou live around in Alaska moutains.
Caribou, also called reindeer, are found in northern regions of North America, Europe, Asia, and Greenland. As summer approaches, caribou herds head north in one of the world's great large-animal migrations. They may travel more than 600 miles along welltrod annual routes.

Today caribou can be found in parts of North America, Russia and Scandinavia. In the United States, two subspecies can be found. Rangifer tarandus granti or barren ground caribou, more well-known due to their long-distance migrations, total 950,000 and occur throughout Alaska and northern Canada.
http://nationalgeographic.com/

There's your answer.

North Antarctica!!?? Antarctica? No fossil mammals have ever been found there. No frozen ones either, unless you count lost sled dogs or the occasional seal. No mammoths, great giant big or small.

Caribou live on Baffin Island year round. So do muskoxen.
Check your map. See Baffin Island up there, by Greenland?
See Ellesmere? Both have year round resident populations
of both caribou and muskoxen. So does Greenland.

The arctic is a lot different from your imaginings.

There was no "Giant Mammoth".