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The Trinity

Mark2020

Well-Known Member
Before doubting Thomas said 'My Lord and my God' in verse 28, didn't Jesus already clearly say at John [20v17] that his Father was his God ?


Who does the resurrected heavenly Jesus think he is at Rev. 2v18 ?
I've already replied conclusively to these questions.
Asking them over and over is no good.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Asking them over does Not change the biblical answer that the resurrected heavenly Jesus still thinks he is the 'Son of God' according to Rev 2v18.

Revelation was written decades after Jesus ascended to heaven to appear before the person of God according to Hebrews 9v24.
Jesus did Not appear before himself in heaven.

If Jesus was God on earth wouldn't he be God in heaven rather than remaining God's Son?
 

outhouse

Atheistically
If the story/fable was written accurately.

why would a god just state?, "ive just split into two and one half with be coming down to teach you a lesson in theology"
 

icebuddy

Does the devil lift Jesus up?
Before doubting Thomas said 'My Lord and my God' in verse 28, didn't Jesus already clearly say at John [20v17] that his Father was his God ?

The Problem here is that you are seeing Jesus as only the offspring of David in his human state of being. When the Jews heard Jesus calling God his Father they picked up stones to kill him because he was making himself equal to God.

Jhn 5:18 For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.

John inspired by the Holy Spirit said calling God his own Father was making himself equal to God, yet you are saying the opposite. I trust John and the inspired word of God.

Doesn't John conclude chapter 20 in verse 31 that he [John] wrote that we might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God ?

Again, the Jews of the time knew what "Son of God" meant. Just as Jesus was "Son of MAN" he was also "Son of God". The Son of Man is Man and the Son of God is God. The Jews knew that you are of the same being of that who is your Father, and Gods word through Johns writings prove it as he adds, ".calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God".

Who does the resurrected heavenly Jesus think he is at Rev. 2v18 ?

Although Jesus is reserectted, he is still the "MAN" who mediates for us until his mediatorial roll is over.

Let me ask you a Question. If Gods word says that Jesus was equal to God because he called God his Father, then why dont you believe it? Why must you make up alternate conclussions?

in Love,
tom
 
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icebuddy

Does the devil lift Jesus up?
please try and post one falsehood ive posted, in any post in this entire forum :rolleyes:

I could pick any one, i will wait until your next blurt, because it will most likly be another falsehood. I bet you believe in Aliens too? LOL

In Love,
Tom
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I could pick any one, i will wait until your next blurt, because it will most likly be another falsehood. I bet you believe in Aliens too? LOL

In Love,
Tom

my friend :) its fine you cannot pick one out of 6000+ post ive made and attempt to refute one.

Now theres plenty in this thread if you want to remain in topic.


I believe we are not alone in this universe.

Im not sure another life form has made it here due to the vast expanse. I believe the possible OFO sightings could be drones if they had another origin besides thi splanet
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
outhouse-

In the universe we are not alone as far as angelic life is concerned.

As far as physical life that is different, because if there was faithful life elsewhere there would be no need to first settle the sin issue on planet earth.

Perfect life elsewhere would have brought that perfection with them here.

Once the sin issue and who is best to rule mankind is settled, then we will know the purpose for the rest of the universe during Jesus messianic [1000-year] reign over earth.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
In the universe we are not alone as far as angelic life is concerned

your talking about a myth that has not made it to reality yet.


Jesus messianic [1000-year] reign over earth.


also myth


you know what ever person claiming the end of the earth and that jesus is coming all have in common????? they all were wrong
 

icebuddy

Does the devil lift Jesus up?
my friend :) its fine you cannot pick one out of 6000+ post ive made and attempt to refute one.

But you dont post any evidence or any details. i could just as easily say to you that your belief has its roots going back to Hitler. but If I dont post any evidence, how can it be refuted... (YOU POST NOTHING VALID, you speak your mind, but thats it)


I believe we are not alone in this universe.

Define "WE"

Im not sure another life form has made it here due to the vast expanse. I believe the possible OFO sightings could be drones if they had another origin besides this planet

In all my studies of Earth and its unique placing in the universe. Science it comming to the conclussion that the chance of life anywhere but Earth is very unlikly. They are also debating about the Big Bang, for what caused the big bang. i wouldnt be suprised if many scientist become Diest in the future. One thing I find very interesting is now that everyone is walking around with a camera and a phone with video, we now have less(NONE) evidence, not more that aliens vist earth.

Tom
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Define "WE"

real life forms, not mythical ones


Science it comming to the conclussion that the chance of life anywhere but Earth is very unlikly

I believe your full of it

sources please.

you better check out the drake equation

science says just the opposite, there is no way we could be the only planet with life

fact is its very possible we already have life found in meteors from eslewhere
 

outhouse

Atheistically
. One thing I find very interesting is now that everyone is walking around with a camera and a phone with video, we now have less(NONE) evidence

which can be said for deities, angles, spirits and demons or any other mythical being
 

outhouse

Atheistically
lets get back on topic my friend [icebuddy]

how do you feel about Constaintines influence on the Nicean creed?
 
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