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The Vortex beckons,how many contradictions and errors are in the Qur'an

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Fatihah

Well-Known Member
nameless said:
stop acting ignorant fatihah , what is the need for me to prove quran is not the word of allah for proving qurans explanation for rain is incorrect. Just say the reason why, if you have any justification for rain concept of rain just explain that.
you are almost given up and proved quran is incorrect and full of blunder. It is shame escaping from my question in this manner.
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Response: Your denial is uncanny. You ask for proof. The proof is presented right in front of you, and 30+ posts later, you're still dodging the challenge. Al hamdu lilah.
 
nameless

nameless

The Creator
Fatihah said:
Response: Your denial is uncanny. You ask for proof. The proof is presented right in front of you, and 30+ posts later, you're still dodging the challenge. Al hamdu lilah.
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do you have any explanation for the concept of rain in quran or not? Just answer this, if you have let me know your explanation for rain.
 
nameless

nameless

The Creator
Does any of the muslim brothers here have explanation for rain according to quran?
Fatihaha has no answer and he is just kidding here.
 
kai

kai

ragamuffin
OH nameless i am sorry my friend but you have been scooped up! and are at present well and truly in the Vortex. Going round and round where it stops nobody knows. dont scream you will only go faster.
 
nameless

nameless

The Creator
Fatihah said:
Response: No need for the same post twice.
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you have no other way,

There was no such post by fatihah justifying rain concept of quran is true.
fatihah, i challenge you , let me see if you made any post justifying concept of rain in quran is true.

Big blunder in quran is proved.

To disprove my claim just repost your post justifying rain concept in quran.
 
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Fatihah

Well-Known Member
nameless said:
you have no other way,

There was no such post by fatihah justifying rain concept of quran is true.
fatihah, i challenge you , let me see if you made any post justifying concept of rain in quran is true.

Big blunder in quran is proved.

To disprove my claim just repost your post justifying rain concept in quran.
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Response: No need to disprove something that hasn't been proven to begin with. Meanwhile, post 821 proves to the contrary anyway. Big blunder in your argument is proved.
 
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syberpriend

Active Member
nameless said:
quran says, rain is caused by will of allah and its allah's angels pouring water from sky according to allah's wish and we get them as rain, prove it !!! For this your brother fatihah asking me to prove quan is not the word of allah and so only he can accept rain concept in quran is wrong, such a shame approach !!!
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Can you please quote the verse and paste it here as well, so we can analyze as wel.
Thanks
 
England my lionheart

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Fatihah said:
Response: But indeed, it has been proven. You see, if there is proof that Allah is the originator of the heavens and the earth and all of the universe and life itself, and also that the qur'an is the true word of Allah, then that alone proves that the rain comes by Allah's will. So the question is "What proof is it that the qur'an is the true word of Allah?" As England suggests, now the vortex beckons.

In the qur'an we read:

In ch: 4:82 of the qur'an we read, "Will they not,then, meditate upon the Qur'an? Had it been from anyone other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy". Also in ch.2:23 we read "And if you are in doubt as to what We have sent down to Our servant, then produce a chapter like it, and call upon your helpers beside Allah, if you are truthful".

Here we have two tests to prove the authenticity and truth of the qur'an. Once applied, you will come to learn that the qur'an is in fact from Allah and has never nor will it ever be corrupted. For if you can prove that it is humanly possible to produce a chapter like the qur'an, then you are correct in saying that there is no proof that the qur'an is from Allah. But if you can not, then the question to ask is "where did the qur'an come from if it's not humanly possible to create a chapter like it?" Then you will come to learn that the originator is none other than Allahu subhanna wa ta ala. You disagree? Then the challenge still stands. Produce a chapter like it.
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No mention of rain here Fatihah,what does the Qur'an say about where rain comes from and what causes it to rain.
 
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syberpriend

Active Member
nameless said:
eselam claimed that rain occurs due to will of allah, he may know exactly where it is said, ask him.
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So u r just taking words of person, and not verses from Quran to claim ur statements? is this also the way u justify multiple form of gods in hinduism as well? just by hearing from ppl and never read scripture?
 
nameless

nameless

The Creator
syberpriend said:
So u r just taking words of person, and not verses from Quran to claim ur statements? is this also the way u justify multiple form of gods in hinduism as well? just by hearing from ppl and never read scripture?
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so you saying eselam is a liar?
 
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Gharib

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
syberpriend said:
So u r just taking words of person, and not verses from Quran to claim ur statements? is this also the way u justify multiple form of gods in hinduism as well? just by hearing from ppl and never read scripture?
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whats going on brother, what have i missed?
 
nameless

nameless

The Creator
eselam and syberpriend must come to peace in their opinion regarding rain. :slap:
Eselam already said that islam says that, raining is caused by allahs will and allah's angles makes rain whenever allah wishes.
 
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Gharib

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
nameless said:
eselam and syberpriend must come to peace in their opinion regarding rain.
Eselam already said that islam says that, raining is caused by allahs will and allah's angles makes rain whenever allah wishes.
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why do you always do this?
 
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