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The "woke" witchhunt turning on its own.

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Ffs.. This is from your first link if you bothered to read it all....


"The first concrete movement toward gender-neutral bathrooms started at universities. Now it’s becoming mainstream. Good work, idealistic college kids! This is why we should think of universities as petri dishes, not a sign of some future hellscape to come. They’re well-contained areas for trying things out. Some of this stuff dies a deserved death. Some of it takes over the world if the rest of us think it makes sense. Stop worrying so much about it.


Second: “Who started this fight?” Yes, that’s a crude way of putting it. But if we contain ourselves to the last decade or so, the answer is: liberals. Before then, the status quo was simple: men used one bathroom and women used another. It was liberals who started pressing for change, and the conservative protest was a response to that."

Gender neutral bathrooms. You even included it in your post. That's that not the subject.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Ffs.. This is from your first link if you bothered to read it all....


"The first concrete movement toward gender-neutral bathrooms started at universities. Now it’s becoming mainstream. Good work, idealistic college kids! This is why we should think of universities as petri dishes, not a sign of some future hellscape to come. They’re well-contained areas for trying things out. Some of this stuff dies a deserved death. Some of it takes over the world if the rest of us think it makes sense. Stop worrying so much about it.


Second: “Who started this fight?” Yes, that’s a crude way of putting it. But if we contain ourselves to the last decade or so, the answer is: liberals. Before then, the status quo was simple: men used one bathroom and women used another. It was liberals who started pressing for change, and the conservative protest was a response to that."


Yeah, the world is you and your tribe for how you subjectively understand the world. We do understand that.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Gender neutral bathrooms. You even included it in your post. That's that not the subject.
And this is before your 2014-2015


August 2014: Austin approves a law that requires gender-neutral signage on single-occupancy bathrooms. Among others, they join Portland (one of the first a year earlier) and Washington DC, and are soon joined by West Hollywood, Philadelphia, and San Francisco. These cities were largely inspired by:

2012-13: A growing movement to install gender-neutral bathrooms at university campuses. During this period, 150 university campuses installed gender-neutral bathrooms, along with a growing number of high schools. The movement for gender-inclusive bathrooms in public facilities started at least as early as 2009 in the state of Vermont.

So again who started it all....
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
And this is before your 2014-2015


August 2014: Austin approves a law that requires gender-neutral signage on single-occupancy bathrooms. Among others, they join Portland (one of the first a year earlier) and Washington DC, and are soon joined by West Hollywood, Philadelphia, and San Francisco. These cities were largely inspired by:

2012-13: A growing movement to install gender-neutral bathrooms at university campuses. During this period, 150 university campuses installed gender-neutral bathrooms, along with a growing number of high schools. The movement for gender-inclusive bathrooms in public facilities started at least as early as 2009 in the state of Vermont.

So again who started it all....

Yeah, you and your group is the standard for all rights. We do get it.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Gender neutral bathrooms. You even included it in your post. That's that not the subject.

Lets just put it all out here....

March 2016: The North Carolina legislature meets to discuss the now-infamous HB2, which requires people to use the bathroom of their birth gender. It was passed and signed into law the same day it was introduced. It was a response to:


February 2016: A new law in the city of Charlotte that effectively allowed transgender people to use bathrooms that match their gender identity. Charlotte was following the lead of San Francisco which in turn was part of a wave of trans-friendly bathroom bills:
2015: In December, Washington State had clarified that existing law allowed transgender people to use bathrooms consistent with their gender identity. In September Philadelphia adopted rules that would require gender-neutral signage on single-occupancy bathrooms. “It’s a sign change,” said the mayor’s director of LGBT affairs. “We’re labeling restrooms as what they are: restrooms, not gender-monitored spaces.” In July the Justice Department took the side of Gavin Grimm, a Virginia high-school student who argued that he should be allowed to use school bathrooms that match his gender identity. In April President Obama opened the first gender-neutral bathroom in the White House. These actions were largely a response to transphobic laws that had been proposed in red states all over the country:
Late 2014 and early 2015: Texas and several other states introduce “bathroom surveillance” bills that would require transgender people to use bathrooms that match their birth gender. The communications director at the National Center for Transgender Equality says the wave of new legislation seemed to be a backlash to “the gains we have seen in state and local non-discrimination policies that protect transgender people.” For example:
August 2014: Austin approves a law that requires gender-neutral signage on single-occupancy bathrooms. Among others, they join Portland (one of the first a year earlier) and Washington DC, and are soon joined by West Hollywood, Philadelphia, and San Francisco. These cities were largely inspired by:
2012-13: A growing movement to install gender-neutral bathrooms at university campuses. During this period, 150 university campuses installed gender-neutral bathrooms, along with a growing number of high schools. The movement for gender-inclusive bathrooms in public facilities started at least as early as 2009 in the state of Vermont.
Ancient history: For our purposes this is anything more than five or six years old. A few random examples include Toilet: Public Restrooms and the Politics of Sharing, a 2010 collection of papers about (among other things) nongendered bathrooms. In 2005, U of Chicago law professor Mary Anne Case gave a presentation called “On Not Having the Opportunity to Introduce Myself to John Kerry in the Men’s Room.” She has been performing surveys of men’s and women’s bathroom facilities for years. And of course, there’s the ur-hysteria of recent decades, when Phyllis Schlafly led a campaign against the Equal Right Amendment throughout the 70s out of fear that it would lead to gay marriage, women in combat, taxpayer-funded abortions, and, of course, unisex bathrooms. We never got the ERA, but as it turned out, Schlafly was pretty much right, wasn’t she?
This timeline was surprisingly hard to put together, and it may not be 100 percent accurate. But it gives you the general shape of the river. There are two points I want make about all this. First, there’s a lot of griping about the hypersensitivity of university students these days. You know: safe spaces, microaggressions, trigger warnings, and so forth. And, sure, maybe some of this stuff is dumb. History will judge that eventually. But I’ve always found it hard to get too exercised about this stuff. These kids are 19 years old. They want to change the world. They’re idealistic and maybe too impatient with anyone who doesn’t want to move as fast as they do. So were you and I at that age. Frankly, if they didn’t go a little overboard about social justice, I’d be worried about them.

But guess what? The first concrete movement toward gender-neutral bathrooms started at universities. Now it’s becoming mainstream. Good work, idealistic college kids! This is why we should think of universities as petri dishes, not a sign of some future hellscape to come. They’re well-contained areas for trying things out. Some of this stuff dies a deserved death. Some of it takes over the world if the rest of us think it makes sense. Stop worrying so much about it.

Second: “Who started this fight?” Yes, that’s a crude way of putting it. But if we contain ourselves to the last decade or so, the answer is: liberals. Before then, the status quo was simple: men used one bathroom and women used another. It was liberals who started pressing for change, and the conservative protest was a response to that.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
You missed this part...
"If my dad was alive and changed his sex I wouldn't call him mom"
No, I didn't. It's all the same. You're being rude and transphobic and rather than own up to it you'd rather tell outlandishly tall tales about me.
A woman who gets married changes her last name, not her sex... Lmfao bad analogy.
Both are name changes so it's a very good analogy. I personally think you didn't think that one through very well.l0
I mean you think stand up urinals are sexiest so a name change surely has to be.
Jesus Christ, dude! After I call you out for making up things about me you're going to do exactly that?
Here's a novel idea for ya. If I didn't actually say it then don't claim I did? Easy, right?
By the way.... Is that sexist that a woman has to change her last name when she gets marrie
For one thing she doesn't have to and many don't, but yes I do find the tradition sexist.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
And this is before your 2014-2015


August 2014: Austin approves a law that requires gender-neutral signage on single-occupancy bathrooms. Among others, they join Portland (one of the first a year earlier) and Washington DC, and are soon joined by West Hollywood, Philadelphia, and San Francisco. These cities were largely inspired by:

2012-13: A growing movement to install gender-neutral bathrooms at university campuses. During this period, 150 university campuses installed gender-neutral bathrooms, along with a growing number of high schools. The movement for gender-inclusive bathrooms in public facilities started at least as early as 2009 in the state of Vermont.

So again who started it all....
You think this started in that decade? LMFAO! Obviously you aren't the professional here.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
No, I didn't. It's all the same. You're being rude and transphobic and rather than own up to it you'd rather tell outlandishly tall tales about me.

Both are name changes so it's a very good analogy. I personally think you didn't think that one through very well.l0

Jesus Christ, dude! After I call you out for making up things about me you're going to do exactly that?
Here's a novel idea for ya. If I didn't actually say it then don't claim I did? Easy, right?

For one thing she doesn't have to and many don't, but yes I do find the tradition sexist.
Whoa!!!! Are your claiming you never said stand up urinals are sexiest and should be removed because only one sex uses them?
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
And this is before your 2014-2015


August 2014: Austin approves a law that requires gender-neutral signage on single-occupancy bathrooms. Among others, they join Portland (one of the first a year earlier) and Washington DC, and are soon joined by West Hollywood, Philadelphia, and San Francisco. These cities were largely inspired by:

2012-13: A growing movement to install gender-neutral bathrooms at university campuses. During this period, 150 university campuses installed gender-neutral bathrooms, along with a growing number of high schools. The movement for gender-inclusive bathrooms in public facilities started at least as early as 2009 in the state of Vermont.

So again who started it all....
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Yes, I never such a stupid thing.

You are a straight up liar!!! This post was made because of your urnial comment

"I may be a little off point here but......
In public bathrooms they shouldn't be offered.

Now I say that because some here think stand up urinals in public bathrooms should be done away with because they are sexist, only one sex uses them...... Well only one sex uses tampons."


You knew it was in reference to you and you replied....

"Men can pee in a regular toilet and do not require urinals.
How about an argument that actually works
?

 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
You are a straight up liar!!! This post was made because of your urnial comment

"I may be a little off point here but......
In public bathrooms they shouldn't be offered.

Now I say that because some here think stand up urinals in public bathrooms should be done away with because they are sexist, only one sex uses them...... Well only one sex uses tampons."


You knew it was in reference to you and you replied....

"Men can pee in a regular toilet and do not require urinals.
How about an argument that actually works
?

So, where did I say this imbicilic nonsense coming from your mouth?
Oh, that's right! I never did and a few of you guys got your panties all up in wadded bunch anyways.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
So, where did I say this imbicilic nonsense coming from your mouth?
Oh, that's right! I never did and a few of you guys got your panties all up in wadded bunch anyways.

Can't find the exact quote but found where you said stand up urnials should be done away with because only one gender uses them, its not equal, etc etc

Your post
"A regular toilet works just as well, just as fine, and doesn't waste space or scream male insecurity"


Your post
"If you think you have to have on for things to be equal, yeah it's very insecure to think equality/gender neutral includes something only you will use that you don't need (in this case thinking a male-specific toilet is necessary)"


Your post
Yeah, but I still stand firm it is not equalizing something to have something you don't need and only one is going to be using and can't use all the time anyways.


 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Can't find the exact quote but found where you said stand up urnials should be done away with because only one gender uses them, its not equal, etc etc
Because I never did. But do go ahead and stay busy running around looking for a corner in a room that's round. I promise I'll keep laughing at you while you do it.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Because I never did. But do go ahead and stay busy running around looking for a corner in a room that's round. I promise I'll keep laughing at you while you do it.
Oh you said it. I even said I can't believe you think stand up urinals are sexiest when you have used them and still swing a pecker and can use them. Your ripped in to my ***, cussed me, told me that was none of my business and several comments were deleted by staff

Sound familiar

But you are right, I cant produce what was removed. I can only produce ones relevant to them.

So you win this one. Next time I will screen shoot them
 
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