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There is no evidence for God, so why do you believe?

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Think we'll about the sand below your feet.
( the stuff of which you mistake for heaven above

I did.
You think there really is an " Atlantis"?
You're the one who needs to check.
I'm not familiar with Atlantis. If you want to, you can possibly elucidate. When I looked at the wikipedia article, perhaps you can show me where Atlantis is mentioned -- I must have overlooked it, because I did not find anything about it.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Think we'll about the sand below your feet.
( the stuff of which you mistake for heaven above

I did.
You think there really is an " Atlantis"?
You're the one who needs to check.
Plus I wasn't talking about some Atlantis, I was looking at his exploits and research about the Black Sea. Where does Atlantis fit into this?
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
I’ve been reading through a couple of threads, and I see that it is said that there is no evidence for a god, it’s an unfalsifiable idea. We all agree on this? If you don’t, care to explain the evidence there is for god?
I’m in agreement. I used to believe my personal experiences to be subjective evidence for god, but I know now that’s not the case. I am not a theist anymore because I recognize I was a Christian thanks almost completely to my environment. That’s why I believed. I was brought up in it. Wasn’t because of any proof or anything,
So, theists, why do you believe? Is it mainly because of your environment and geographical location? There is no proof for god (right?), so what logically keeps you believing? Or is logic not supposed to be a factor when it comes to faith? Is it too jarring, the idea of leaving the comfort that religion and belief in a god brings?
I am curious about personal evaluations on why you believe. It can’t be because of logic, as there is no proof of god, right?
When you say "no evidence", what are you referring to? Are you an empiricist?
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
There is nothing we can point to and say "See? That proves God!"
You mean empirically! That's the question. The answer will depend on your epistemology.

If you are looking for empirical evidence for a metaphysical being, that's like looking for feathers on a pig or a tortoise. That's what you must understand when speaking of evidence. This is fundamental. Try and understand that first. Please simply read about it a little which from your answer I can see you have not, said with all due respect.

Thanks.
 

an anarchist

Your local loco.
You mean empirically! That's the question. The answer will depend on your epistemology.

If you are looking for empirical evidence for a metaphysical being, that's like looking for feathers on a pig or a tortoise. That's what you must understand when speaking of evidence. This is fundamental. Try and understand that first. Please simply read about it a little which from your answer I can see you have not, said with all due respect.

Thanks.
So God only exists in imagination is what you are saying?
 

an anarchist

Your local loco.
You know what I know? I know my life is much better with God than without God. You do you and we will sort it out later if we're inclined to do so.
For me, the God concept does not work if it is not factual. And it's my perspective that there is no evidence for the fact of God.

But yes, I agree with you. I never talk religion with my family. I would never want them to doubt their faith, it is integral to their lives and they lean on it much.

I just prefer reality or "empiricism".
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
For me, the God concept does not work if it is not factual. And it's my perspective that there is no evidence for the fact of God.

But yes, I agree with you. I never talk religion with my family. I would never want them to doubt their faith, it is integral to their lives and they lean on it much.

I just prefer reality or "empiricism".
OK you do you but God is very real to me. And I am not prone to imagination of whatever you want to call it. In fact, my default is generally "If there's a logical explanation for it, that's probably why it is doing (whatever)."

We can talk about religion all you like. Nothing will make me doubt. Nothing you say, nothing you do, nothing anyone says or does will make me doubt that God is real and that He loves me. Which is actually pretty amazing.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
To elaborate:
People look for God in the real or "empirical" world. "Metaphysical" can mean imaginary or not real. It's just a fancy way of saying it.
Well, I doubt you have the capability or the intent so that should end this conversation. Thanks for verifying.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
We can talk about religion all you like. Nothing will make me doubt. Nothing you say, nothing you do, nothing anyone says or does will make me doubt that God is real and that He loves me. Which is actually pretty amazing.
Same here. Nothing will make me doubt, especially after all I have been through which I survived, only by the Grace of God.
It is amazing that God loves me in spite of the way I feel about myself. :(
 
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