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There is no evidence for God, so why do you believe?

I do. That is because I know that it is not the "Word of God". You doom yourself to misinterpretation with that belief.
If you’re saying that the Bible is a myth, Noah’s Ark and the Flood never happened, Genesis is myth, Jesus didn’t rise from the dead then you have misinterpreted the Bible which is the Word of God.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
If you’re saying that the Bible is a myth, Noah’s Ark and the Flood never happened, Genesis is myth, Jesus didn’t rise from the dead then you have misinterpreted the Bible which is the Word of God.
No, I can demonstrate how we know that there was no Noah's Ark, or Adam and Eve myth, and I can show you why your Jesus claims do not meet the burden of proof.. I know. reality can be a female dog that has had puppies.

You refuse to even learn the basics of science so you are unable to argue against my claims. That is not my fault. You could still learn. There is no reason that you cannot learn the basics of science that lead to these conclusions.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
If you’re saying that the Bible is a myth, Noah’s Ark and the Flood never happened, Genesis is myth, Jesus didn’t rise from the dead then you have misinterpreted the Bible which is the Word of God.
Words of men claiming communion with God, yes.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
We do have communion with God and that is available to everyone through Jesus Christ, why continue to live a life of spiritual death when you could be really alive?
I'm already alive. I can't get double alive or anything. As a child, my spirit was like a fluttering ember. Now it's grown into a vast wild fire. But thanks for the offer.
 

dybmh

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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Here's another one, but, I think if you give it chance the first article is better. It gives both sides of the debate and doesn't appear biased to me.

Archaeologists announce Exodus evidence - Metro Voice News

That i s not a scientific source either. I would suggest that you go to Google scholar and do a search their. They tend to limit their sources to peer reviewed ones. The popular press is not where one goes to debate such matters.

In fact it is even worse. the "Metro Voice News" is a Christian newspaper. Not a reliable source when their myths are threatened:

Media in Kansas City, Missouri - Wikipedia
 
@Subduction Zone said:

Archaeologists have known that the Exodus story was myth since the 19th century.

The Egyptian historian Manetho wrote very bad about Moses, calling him son of Seth , the Egyptian god of disorder, disasters and similar.

If the exodus event never happened and neither Moses, how it come that the enemy, the Egyptian historian, wrote about such events supporting the biblical writings?

The current archeologists don't work to discover the past in that area but to cover every historical biblical claim.

To me, they are just demonstrating their foolishness when doing so.

Fortunately, there are witness of all kind supporting the biblical historical narrations.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
@Subduction Zone said:



The Egyptian historian Manetho wrote very bad about Moses, calling him son of Seth , the Egyptian god of disorder, disasters and similar.

If the exodus event never happened and neither Moses, how it come that the enemy, the Egyptian historian, wrote about such events supporting the biblical writings?

The current archeologists don't work to discover the past in that area but to cover every historical biblical claim.

To me, they are just demonstrating their foolishness when doing so.

Fortunately, there are witness of all kind supporting the biblical historical narrations.
Find a valid source.

No need. I did your homework for you:

Manetho - Wikipedia

Not a historian, but a priest. And though he did write a story it appears to be myth as well. It was more of an anti-Hebrew tract. It was written in the third century BCE. That was long after Israel became a country and as a probably enemy of Egypt a priest from another country writing bad things about a hero of myth of one's enemies is not unexpected. Sorry but that would fails as evidence too.
 
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dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
No, not really. I have severe doubts about that source from the title alone. Can you find a reliable archeological source that support that claim? One that already admits to a bias is not very convincing.

Here's something I found using google scholar.

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I think the point is, there is evidence of the exodus. Whether or not this evidence meets your standards is another story. It's certainly debatable. I found several articles rather quickly when searching. When was the last time you looked into this?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Here's something I found using google scholar.

Gale - Product Login

I think the point is, there is evidence of the exodus. Whether or not this evidence meets your standards is another story. It's certainly debateable. I found several articles rather quickly when searching. When was the last time you looked into this?
I think that your link failed. The last time I checked the consensus was very clear.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
I think that your link failed. The last time I checked the consensus was very clear.

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Posner, Michael. "Director posits proof: of biblical Exodus." Globe & Mail [Toronto, Canada], 14 Apr. 2006, p. A1. Gale Academic OneFile, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A144485470/AONE?u=oregon_oweb&sid=googleScholar&xid=4b53ed60. Accessed 13 May 2022.
 

Subduction Zone

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Posner, Michael. "Director posits proof: of biblical Exodus." Globe & Mail [Toronto, Canada], 14 Apr. 2006, p. A1. Gale Academic OneFile, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A144485470/AONE?u=oregon_oweb&sid=googleScholar&xid=4b53ed60. Accessed 13 May 2022.
Once more you are back to non-archaeological sources. Hw did they know that the image was the Ark of the Covenant? How did they obtains their dates? All I see are claims that are unsupported. I could do the same for the deity of my choosing.

A peer reviewed article has to be very precise in its methodology and how they came to certain conclusions. You only have claims and those could be written by anyone..
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I can give you some links as well. Here is a page from a book, but it will bring you no joy:

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Dang! Well it gives me no joy either. At any rate here is a link to the soruce:

The Date of the Exodus and the Conquest/Settlement: The Case for the 1100S on JSTOR

I will check that after I post this, but you can read a hundred articles there a month for free.

EDIT Oh that was weird. When I wrote this I only got the generic IMG symbol telling me that something went wrong. But I see that the image did post. Nice.
 
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