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"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."

Mr Spinkles

Mr Spinkles

Mr
darkendless said:
I don't think it should be banned, i just don't think its appropriate as it sends out a controversial message that close to every child (where i live) is taught the opposite.
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Oh, I thought you were saying it shouldn't be allowed.

I still wouldn't go as far as you and lilithu as to call it inappropriate (though lilithu pointed out her reasons are different from yours).
 
lilithu

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
Mr Spinkles said:
I still wouldn't go as far as you and lilithu as to call it inappropriate (though lilithu pointed out her reasons are different from yours).
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We probably mean different things by "inappropriate" too. :D I just know it would annoy me...enough to roll my eyes and gripe. I would not try to make it illegal. I would not try to organize a boycott. I would not even write a letter. Really... there are more important battles in this life.
 
crystalonyx

crystalonyx

Well-Known Member
rocketman said:
You must be kidding. To quote respected cosmologist Paul Davies from this NY times article:

"Far from doing away with a transcendent Creator, the multiverse theory actually injects that very concept at almost every level of its logical structure. Gods and worlds, creators and creatures, lie embedded in each other, forming an infinite regress in unbounded space."

That's too big to fit on a bus though.........
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Hmm, I've never seen gods in string theory, or any other multiverse theory. Is this guy on LSD?
 
rocketman

rocketman

Out there...
crystalonyx said:
Hmm, I've never seen gods in string theory, or any other multiverse theory. Is this guy on LSD?
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When he uses the term god he means unexplained causes, that's all. My point was that multiverse theory does not do what was claimed of it earlier, as touted by logician.
 
Luminous

Luminous

non-existential luminary
9-10ths_Penguin said:
From the Telegraph:



Thoughts?

In the full article, Dawkins draws a parellel between these ads and the bus ads for various religious groups. Are these atheist* ads appropriate? Are the religious ones that inspired these?

*actually, the slogan seems more agnostic than atheist to me, but apparently the group funding them considers them to be "atheist".
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yes, the adds are agnostic. however, i see agodism(atheism only means against religion to me) as a religion. the ads just give the factual odds.
 
crystalonyx

crystalonyx

Well-Known Member
capslockf9 said:
you cannot describe the universe completely with any accuracy unless you're willing to admit that it's both physical and mental in nature
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One could never dedscribe the universe "completely, in fact, one cannot model the weather "completely", because chaotic systems simply cannot be completely modeled.
 
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capslockf9

Active Member
A loop?
We wrongfully divide mind and matter into two entities. There is no seperate matter and there is no a seperate mind. Mind and matter are the same thing.

A loop is a metaphor what is happening.
Mind would not emanate without matter and matter would not manifest without the mind.
 
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adelpit346

Member
actually for the immense improbability that life should even exist: but not know how it created itself, then there is a 100% chance that is a GOd
perhaps you are a tare
tares are incapable of understanding that GOd is THeLORd1JESUs:')
but that is only a theory i enjoy imagining to be true
i can only say i can defeat your your theory with mine:')
iamnothing0
 
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Sententia

Well-Known Member
adelpit346 said:
actually for the immense improbability that life should even exist: but not know how it created itself, then there is a 100% chance that is a GOd
perhaps you are a tare
tares are incapable of understanding that GOd is THeLORd1JESUs:')
but that is only a theory i enjoy imagining to be true
i can only say i can defeat your your theory with mine:')
iamnothing0
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What assumption do you make that life should know how it was created. While there are many flaws in this I can easily illustrate with a common ant. An ant exists and has no idea how it is that it exists. It does not possess the intelligence or reason to know how it is that it exists.

Similarily humans have only recently come about and seem to atleast possess the intelligence to ask such questions. Without knowing the whole of life or how the end result turns out it seems ignorant to assume life will not eventually evolve and figure out what caused it. Perhaps it wont even be humans... We do seem so flawwed...
 
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capslockf9

Active Member
BalanceFx said:
What assumption do you make that life should know how it was created. While there are many flaws in this I can easily illustrate with a common ant. An ant exists and has no idea how it is that it exists. It does not possess the intelligence or reason to know how it is that it exists.

Similarily humans have only recently come about and seem to atleast possess the intelligence to ask such questions. Without knowing the whole of life or how the end result turns out it seems ignorant to assume life will not eventually evolve and figure out what caused it. Perhaps it wont even be humans... We do seem so flawwed...
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True.
It is egotistical to think that the human animal has reached the evolution pinnacle.
Mind will expand or maybe shrink as the matter goes through the changes.
 
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