Top 10 reasons why Jesus Christ Isn't God

[Godobeyer]

A personal attack, an assumption, and not relevant to the discussion.

it's not personal attack , it's your religion faith ...and your gods made from.

If I recall correctly, I may be wrong here, one of our Jewish members may know better, it speaks of Solomon's ancestry from David, and Solomon is the guy who is mentioned in it.

Either way, it is an erotic song. Try reading it for yourself.

i don't said that it's not erotic song.

Who? What?

When?

Why? How?

What?



Where?
Not many people can make me who, what, when, why, how AND where in one brief discussion. Points for the confusing nature of the message.

i guess you shocked , for that you could not give answsers ,

 

[Godobeyer]

So whether or not it makes any sense at all it is supposed to have some significance that a name which even out of context and an incredible leap of faith in an erotic love song fortells of Muhammed.

I told you Mr England, there are also inside this song of songs , the names of David and Solomon (peace be upon them) not only Muhammad (pbuh)

 

[England my lionheart]

yes it's altogether lovely or my beloved ... i don't know exactely , but it's not " most sweet"

16 His mouth is most sweet; yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.'

it's one of them altogether lovely or my beloved . not most sweet .

Here are some more translations:




Hebrew Transliterated
5:16 ChKV MMThQYM VKLV MChMDYM ZH DVDY VZH Ur'yY BNVTh YUrVShLM.

Latin Vulgate
5:16 guttur illius suavissimum et totus desiderabilis talis est dilectus meus et iste est amicus meus filiae Hierusalem

King James Version
5:16 His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.

American Standard Version
5:16 His mouth is most sweet; Yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.

Bible in Basic English
5:16 His mouth is most sweet; yes, he is all beautiful. This is my loved one, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.

Darby's English Translation
5:16 His mouth is most sweet: Yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, yea, this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.

Douay Rheims Bible
5:16 His throat most sweet, and he is all lovely: such is my beloved, and he is my friend, O ye daughters of Jerusalem.

Noah Webster Bible
5:16 His mouth is most sweet: yes, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.

World English Bible
5:16 His mouth is sweetness; Yes, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, Daughters of Jerusalem. Friends
Young's Literal Translation
5:16 His mouth is sweetness -- and all of him desirable, This is my beloved, and this my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem!

 

[Godobeyer]

Here are some more translations:




Hebrew Transliterated
5:16 ChKV MMThQYM VKLV MChMDYM ZH DVDY VZH Ur'yY BNVTh YUrVShLM.

Latin Vulgate
5:16 guttur illius suavissimum et totus desiderabilis talis est dilectus meus et iste est amicus meus filiae Hierusalem

King James Version
5:16 His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.

American Standard Version
5:16 His mouth is most sweet; Yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.

Bible in Basic English
5:16 His mouth is most sweet; yes, he is all beautiful. This is my loved one, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.

Darby's English Translation
5:16 His mouth is most sweet: Yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, yea, this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.

Douay Rheims Bible
5:16 His throat most sweet, and he is all lovely: such is my beloved, and he is my friend, O ye daughters of Jerusalem.

Noah Webster Bible
5:16 His mouth is most sweet: yes, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.

World English Bible
5:16 His mouth is sweetness; Yes, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, Daughters of Jerusalem. Friends
Young's Literal Translation
5:16 His mouth is sweetness -- and all of him desirable, This is my beloved, and this my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem!

thanks england , but what we need is knowing which name , " the most sweet or altogether , or beloved ) and this is not help .

i ask you a question when you heard about " Muhammad " is in the song of songs , i guess it's recently , why recently because it was secret hided by the jews ...and as you know the hebrew language is revival language , they changing the meaning but the spelling could not change , and they translate it wrong to the other language .

Revival of the Hebrew language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

what we conserning is the spelling .

 

[England my lionheart]

The spelling is of little significance,its one word Machmaddim,you are then taking the singular Machmad (praised one) that sounds like Muhammed(well to some it does) which only occurs once in an erotic love song and a Jewish secret conspiracy to prove Muhammed is fortold in the books of the Bible which it clearly is not.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

yes it's altogether lovely or my beloved ... i don't know exactely , but it's not " most sweet"

16 His mouth is most sweet; yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.'

it's one of them altogether lovely or my beloved . not most sweet .

So you're saying that Muhammad is God?

 

[Godobeyer]

So you're saying that Muhammad is God?

No,
I wounder how you got that ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

No,
I wounder how you got that ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The whole passage is a poetic, metaphoric description of the love between the nation of Israel and God. "My beloved" refers to God (edit: and "daughters of Jerusalem" refers to Israel or the Jewish people). When it says, "He is altogether lovely", it means "God is altogether lovely".

You've argued that "lovely" actually means "Muhammad". This makes the line mean "God is altogether Muhammad".

You did mean to say that "lovely" refers to Muhammad, right?

 

[Godobeyer]

The whole passage is a poetic, metaphoric description of the love between the nation of Israel and God. "My beloved" refers to God (edit: and "daughters of Jerusalem" refers to Israel or the Jewish people). When it says, "He is altogether lovely", it means "God is altogether lovely".

You've argued that "lovely" actually means "Muhammad". This makes the line mean "God is altogether Muhammad".

You did mean to say that "lovely" refers to Muhammad, right?

I dont care if the mean , of the sentence is correct or not in english .... what is important for me is in hebrew language .... Hebrew language it's prononce that word prounoced "Muhammad" , hebrew is what interesent me . not of course the meaning or the spelling in english.

 

[McBell]

I guess you are atheist , and my challenge is for who believe that Jesus (phub) is a God , that mean you are not able to be in that challenge .

Thank you for further proving my point.

Sad that you think so little of you "challenge".

 

[McBell]

Absolutly that the name of Prophet Muhammad mention in many places in the Holy Bible , but the Jews edited it because they discover that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) not Jewish as they waiting for , i don't care if it's erotic or x bible , My care is the spelling , it's the same as the arabic word (MUHAMMAD) , You know what
go to this site (hebrew/english) and try to find out what is the letters מַחֲמַדִּ

Free Online Hebrew Dictionary. Type in Hebrew/English. Translate Hebrew or Phonetic Hebrew.

What a blatant load of bull ****.
Next you will be claiming that the koran is full of scientific miracles....

 

[Godobeyer]

What a blatant load of bull ****.
Next you will be claiming that the koran is full of scientific miracles....

look i just add only this sign ' to that word " מַחֲמַדִּ "....discover the spelling/Phonetic of that word by your self

http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=&ie=UTF-8&text=%D7%9E%D6%B7%D7%97%D6%B2%D7%9E%D6%B7%D7%93% D6%BC%D6%B4&sl=iw&tl=en#iw|en|%D7%9E%D6%B7%D7%97%D 6%B2%D7%9E%D6%B7%D7%93%D6%BC%D6%B4%27

 

[Godobeyer]

Thank you for further proving my point.

Sad that you think so little of you "challenge".

so every one in the world can stablish an challenge for another people .

 

[McBell]

look i add only this sign ' to that word ....discover the spelling of that word by your self

http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=&ie=UTF-8&text=%D7%9E%D6%B7%D7%97%D6%B2%D7%9E%D6%B7%D7%93% D6%BC%D6%B4&sl=iw&tl=en#iw|en|%D7%9E%D6%B7%D7%97%D 6%B2%D7%9E%D6%B7%D7%93%D6%BC%D6%B4%27

The fact is that Mohammad is not mentioned nor even implied nor even refered to in the Bible.

Your reliance on the Forer Effect to ratify your beliefs is most telling.

 

[McBell]

so every one in the world can stablish an challenge for another people .

Yes, anyone can establish a challenge.

Problem with your joke...err challenge is that no one here but you and your choir think it is anything resembling a challenge.

 

[Godobeyer]

The fact is that Mohammad is not mentioned nor even implied nor even refered to in the Bible.

Your reliance on the Forer Effect to ratify your beliefs is most telling.

I gave proof , you ignore it , it's not my problem

 

[Godobeyer]

Yes, anyone can establish a challenge.

Problem with your joke...err challenge is that no one here but you and your choir think it is anything resembling a challenge.

ok it's Joke ... challenge joke . ... this joke no one could deny it lol

 

[Nerthus]

I gave proof , you ignore it , it's not my problem

Looks like this will go on for a long time. What you posted is not proof. Nothing that you have posted is proof. Why the determination to try and 'prove' people wrong anyway?

No one has agreed with you, yet you continue, and it's getting a little annoying to be honest, with all these threads about it. No one is posting them about Islam, when the same things could be said that it.

There is no proof, that is why it is called faith.

 

[Godobeyer]

Looks like this will go on for a long time. What you posted is not proof. Nothing that you have posted is proof. Why the determination to try and 'prove' people wrong anyway?

No one has agreed with you, yet you continue, and it's getting a little annoying to be honest, with all these threads about it. No one is posting them about Islam, when the same things could be said that it.

There is no proof, that is why it is called faith.

i know it's a joke , ok take it as challenge joke

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Absolutly that the name of Prophet Muhammad mention in many places in the Holy Bible , but the Jews edited it because they discover that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) not Jewish as they waiting for , i don't care if it's erotic or x bible , My care is the spelling , it's the same as the arabic word (MUHAMMAD) , You know what
go to this site (hebrew/english) and try to find out what is the letters מַחֲמַדִּ

Free Online Hebrew Dictionary. Type in Hebrew/English. Translate Hebrew or Phonetic Hebrew.

Making up stuff from an online dictionary does not give you enough literacy to determine what you are claiming.

Your stubborn obstinance is matched only by your lack of skill.