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Top 10 reasons why Jesus Christ Isn't God

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
and I know that you changed the mean of the word " מַחֲמַדִּ " (Muhammad in hebrew) that found in the bible , to "Pets" and "Charm" ,,,, it's spelling Muhammad, but it's mean " Charm" lol !!!!!

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YouTube - The Absolute Truth About Muhammad In The Bible part 1 [HD] Arabic Subtitles

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Again?
I'm just copy-pasting my response FROM THE OTHER DAY.

Song of Solomon 5:10-16 (in Context):

Translation: New International Version

Beloved

10 My lover is radiant and ruddy,
outstanding among ten thousand.
11 His head is purest gold;
his hair is wavy
and black as a raven.

12 His eyes are like doves
by the water streams,
washed in milk,
mounted like jewels.

13 His cheeks are like beds of spice
yielding perfume.
His lips are like lilies
dripping with myrrh.

14 His arms are rods of gold
set with chrysolite.
His body is like polished ivory
decorated with sapphires.

15 His legs are pillars of marble
set on bases of pure gold.
His appearance is like Lebanon,
choice as its cedars.

16 His mouth is sweetness itself;
he is altogether lovely.
This is my lover, this my friend,
O daughters of Jerusalem.

- Source: Biblegateway.com




Translation: The Complete Jewish Bible (with Rashi Commentary)

Quote:
10. "My beloved is white and ruddy, surrounded by myriads.
11. His head is as the finest gold; his locks are curled, [they are as] black as a raven.
12. His eyes are like doves beside rivulets of water, bathing in milk, fitly set.
13. His jaws are like a bed of spice, growths of aromatic plants; his lips are [like] roses, dripping with flowing myrrh.
14. His hands are [like] wheels of gold, set with chrysolite; his abdomen is [as] a block of ivory, overlaid with sapphires.
15. His legs are [as] pillars of marble, founded upon sockets of fine gold, his appearance is like the Lebanon, chosen as the cedars.
16. His palate is sweet, and he is altogether desirable; this is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem."

- Source: Chabad.org




Is this really a Muhammad-is-the-true-prophet-and-prophesied-within-the-scriptures location?

No.
Makhmad(im) shares a similarity to Muhammad in its writing, yes--but it is used differently. That's like saying I'm prophesied in the Guru Granth Sahib, because my name is technically within it. Because my name is a WORD in Gurmukhi, the same here of Makhmad(im).


By the way, while I am here: im is not a sign of respect in this case. It is a plural marker, used for the agreement of plural nouns. Ha klavim ha mekhirim ratzim: literally the dogs the quicks are running-s.

Additionally the text does not say Muhammad. It says makhmadim, meaning 'lovely' or literally 'delights'. The full text of this part in Hebrew is is Chiku mamtakim v'khulo machamadim zeh dodi v'zeh re'i b'not yerushalayim, and it does not mention Muhammad. They share a root word in meaning, but they are not the same word, it is not a name of Muhammad. Why would Muhammad crop up in Jewish erotica? :shrug:


Hopefully now this 'attempt' has been destroyed, we can get back to the topic at hand?
 

Starsoul

Truth
Yes, that is exactly what it sounds like. Since you are incapable of forming a lucid rebuttal to my denouncement of the OP's argument.

Jesus's need for food and water is not a refutation of his divinity, as Christianity claims that Jesus was both man and God at the same time. Therefore, while Jesus was supposedly divine, his physical state required that material needs be met. He could have overcome this requirement at any time, but chose to continue in his human aspect for the purpose of laying the path to salvation. This is what Christians believe, as far as I understand their doctrine.

Now, do you have a reasonable rebuttal against this proposed doctrine? Or do you want to insist that Jesus was not God because he wore shoes or something ever bit as asinine?

I'm not going to bother going down the level you choose to acquaint yourself with, Just show your top ten list to any child and we'll see who's the infant here. Its 'reason enough' for you ONLY if it finds agreement with you, otherwise you dont even HAVE the Patience to look into it.

Its common knowledge that there are somethings that are there, infront of us as BLACK AND WHITE, but SINCE they do not appeal to the 'hollywood- graphics-obsessed,fed- in -excess' influenced minds of some people, they refuse to believe anything that fails to MATCH the graphic sorcery of hollywood, kudos to the movie makers, they've hit the final nail into the nuts.

Now, If i was to say That When God is capable of creating Adam WITHOUT any parent, WHy do christians BELIEVE that its NOT possible for God to create Jesus out of one parent only? Why don't they call Adam, the first MAN on earth, as the son of God? NOBODY calls him that? WHY?


The Bible describes Mary as the physical mother of Jesus, and that she was made pregnant by God. (Matthew 1:16, Luke 1:26-42, Luke 2:5-19) Mary visited her cousin Elisabeth (Luke 1:39-56) Mary attended a feast at Jerusalem with her family. (Luke 2:48-51) Mary is present at a marriage feast. (John 2:1-10) Mary looked for Jesus when He was teaching inside a house (Matthew 12:46-47, Mark 3:31, Luke 8:19). Mary went to see Jesus at the cross (John 19:25-27). Mary was committed to the care of Jesus' disciple John. (John 19:27) Mary lived with the disciples in Jerusalem for a while (Acts 1:14).

How can anyone interpret 'made pregnant by God' in the literal sense???God is capable of creating any human ,anywhere, AND that is the message here. She conceived by the 'will of God', not by any other chance.

So everything Catholics say about Mary, that is not in the Bible has been made up by people, and are based on tradition rather than the truth revealed to us God's Word. Nowhere does the Bible say Mary was greater than any other Christian, she was just a human like all of us. The Bible does not say people should worship Mary or pray to Mary. The Bible does not say Mary prays for us.

Some Catholics may believe and teach that Mary acts as a mediator between people and God, but this is the opposite to the Bible which says, Jesus is only mediator between God and mankind. (1 Timothy 2:5)

A mediator is somebody that negotiates a solution between two people that are divided because of some problem. Agreed that he was One of the most respected Prophets of God, but that does not make him the son of God, period.

Praying to Mary, singing to Mary, and bowing down or kissing statues of Mary, might even be classed as a form of Idol worship, which Jesus said was wrong. For He said we must worship and serve God alone (Matthew 4:10). And Mary was a person.

Catholic beliefs do not allow certain men to have a wife because they are leaders in the Church. However in the Bible we read Christian leaders were married, such as the Apostle Peter (Matthew 8:14, Mark 1:30, Luke 4:38) Paul who was a Christian leader and wrote most of the New Testament also allowed marriage (1 Corinthians 9:5).

The Bible even makes it clear that it is wrong to forbid marriage (1 Timothy 4:3).

why do popes and nuns not marry? The book doesnt say anything about forbidding marriage! How cruel to not let the most respected people in a society, marry?

Why do christians sideline God in the name of the pious Prophet? He never once said that he was the son of God.

Enough said, The truth is christians have paid 99% of attention to the Prophet, and his glorification and probably not even 1% attention and respect towards the Divine Authority ,God. God is merciful, very true, but His mercy requires effort, and its only fair if some effort was put into understand God's concept and His attributes, Why were christians told to follow an Arab Prophet after Jesus was gone?(in the old testament) and why do christians not pay heed to that?
 

Eliot Wild

Irreverent Agnostic Jerk
I'm not going to bother going down the level you choose to acquaint yourself with, Just show your top ten list to any child and we'll see who's the infant here. Its 'reason enough' for you ONLY if it finds agreement with you, otherwise you dont even HAVE the Patience to look into it.

Its common knowledge that there are somethings that are there, infront of us as BLACK AND WHITE, but SINCE they do not appeal to the 'hollywood- graphics-obsessed,fed- in -excess' influenced minds of some people, they refuse to believe anything that fails to MATCH the graphic sorcery of hollywood, kudos to the movie makers, they've hit the final nail into the nuts.

Now, If i was to say That When God is capable of creating Adam WITHOUT any parent, WHy do christians BELIEVE that its NOT possible for God to create Jesus out of one parent only? Why don't they call Adam, the first MAN on earth, as the son of God? NOBODY calls him that? WHY?


The Bible describes Mary as the physical mother of Jesus, and that she was made pregnant by God. (Matthew 1:16, Luke 1:26-42, Luke 2:5-19) Mary visited her cousin Elisabeth (Luke 1:39-56) Mary attended a feast at Jerusalem with her family. (Luke 2:48-51) Mary is present at a marriage feast. (John 2:1-10) Mary looked for Jesus when He was teaching inside a house (Matthew 12:46-47, Mark 3:31, Luke 8:19). Mary went to see Jesus at the cross (John 19:25-27). Mary was committed to the care of Jesus' disciple John. (John 19:27) Mary lived with the disciples in Jerusalem for a while (Acts 1:14).

How can anyone interpret 'made pregnant by God' in the literal sense???God is capable of creating any human ,anywhere, AND that is the message here. She conceived by the 'will of God', not by any other chance.

So everything Catholics say about Mary, that is not in the Bible has been made up by people, and are based on tradition rather than the truth revealed to us God's Word. Nowhere does the Bible say Mary was greater than any other Christian, she was just a human like all of us. The Bible does not say people should worship Mary or pray to Mary. The Bible does not say Mary prays for us.

Some Catholics may believe and teach that Mary acts as a mediator between people and God, but this is the opposite to the Bible which says, Jesus is only mediator between God and mankind. (1 Timothy 2:5)

A mediator is somebody that negotiates a solution between two people that are divided because of some problem. Agreed that he was One of the most respected Prophets of God, but that does not make him the son of God, period.

Praying to Mary, singing to Mary, and bowing down or kissing statues of Mary, might even be classed as a form of Idol worship, which Jesus said was wrong. For He said we must worship and serve God alone (Matthew 4:10). And Mary was a person.

Catholic beliefs do not allow certain men to have a wife because they are leaders in the Church. However in the Bible we read Christian leaders were married, such as the Apostle Peter (Matthew 8:14, Mark 1:30, Luke 4:38) Paul who was a Christian leader and wrote most of the New Testament also allowed marriage (1 Corinthians 9:5).

The Bible even makes it clear that it is wrong to forbid marriage (1 Timothy 4:3).

why do popes and nuns not marry? The book doesnt say anything about forbidding marriage! How cruel to not let the most respected people in a society, marry?

Why do christians sideline God in the name of the pious Prophet? He never once said that he was the son of God.

Enough said, The truth is christians have paid 99% of attention to the Prophet, and his glorification and probably not even 1% attention and respect towards the Divine Authority ,God. God is merciful, very true, but His mercy requires effort, and its only fair if some effort was put into understand God's concept and His attributes, Why were christians told to follow an Arab Prophet after Jesus was gone?(in the old testament) and why do christians not pay heed to that?


I think you are sorely unaware of something very important in this matter: I am not a catholic. I am not even an ontological Christian. I am what one might refer to as an agnostic Christian, if even a Christian at all. What I mean, is that I don't even believe in the divinity of Jesus, but I agree with many of his teachings when it comes to how we should behave towards one another and the qualities of character that we should strive for. To be completely candid, I find all this Muslim-vs-Christian bickering about whose God has the biggest penis and which religious characters are real and which are not, all of this back and forth with lists and denouncements and snow ball fights and wishing people would go to hell, I find it all to be rather silly and it embarrasses me to say I am of the same species with such people.

And let me get this straight . . . If I understand you correctly, you believe I'm childish because I responded to an Islamic argument against Jesus's divinity that used a 'Top Ten List' by writing a 'Top Ten List' of my own. My list was 'chidish but the OP's was not? Are you kidding me. In the states we have a saying: "What is good for the goose is good for the gander." Also this: "You should never measure another man's wheat with your own bushel."

If you want to have a debate about the validity of Catholicism, then you should engage a Catholic, not an agnostic. If you or any other muslim gander want to post childish Top Ten Lists, then you can expect to get them served back to you in kind.

So it goes.
 

Starsoul

Truth
I think you are sorely unaware of something very important in this matter: I am not a catholic. I am not even an ontological Christian. I am what one might refer to as an agnostic Christian, if even a Christian at all. What I mean, is that I don't even believe in the divinity of Jesus, but I agree with many of his teachings when it comes to how we should behave towards one another and the qualities of character that we should strive for. To be completely candid, I find all this Muslim-vs-Christian bickering about whose God has the biggest penis and which religious characters are real and which are not, all of this back and forth with lists and denouncements and snow ball fights and wishing people would go to hell, I find it all to be rather silly and it embarrasses me to say I am of the same species with such people.

And let me get this straight . . . If I understand you correctly, you believe I'm childish because I responded to an Islamic argument against Jesus's divinity that used a 'Top Ten List' by writing a 'Top Ten List' of my own. My list was 'chidish but the OP's was not? Are you kidding me. In the states we have a saying: "What is good for the goose is good for the gander." Also this: "You should never measure another man's wheat with your own bushel."

If you want to have a debate about the validity of Catholicism, then you should engage a Catholic, not an agnostic. If you or any other muslim gander want to post childish Top Ten Lists, then you can expect to get them served back to you in kind.

So it goes.

So much for the goose ruffling his feathers to find out hes neither goose nor gander, but a non-related aggressive chicken-ish commentator on religion. Of which he has neither no knowledge ,nor any respect. So much of sentimental hogwash for the OP, and the offended comes out as pleading innocent.

There's a reason so many christians are Agnostic, ever thought of it? probably Not. No chance of going beyond the obvious non-sensical stuff, no patience, no use!
 

Eliot Wild

Irreverent Agnostic Jerk
So much for the goose ruffling his feathers to find out hes neither goose nor gander, but a non-related aggressive chicken-ish commentator on religion. Of which he has neither no knowledge ,nor any respect. So much of sentimental hogwash for the OP, and the offended comes out as pleading innocent.

There's a reason so many christians are Agnostic, ever thought of it? probably Not. No chance of going beyond the obvious non-sensical stuff, no patience, no use!


Is this supposed to even be 'debate'? Is this the Islamic 'I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I' argument? To be honest, I actually haven't heard such a rebuttal since I was in junior high school.

How many Christians have you met that are agnostic? Do you even know what the word 'agnostic' means? Do you even know what the word 'Christian' means?

You are correct about one thing, however, I certainly DO NOT respect your religion, as least not the way you practice it, if these posts of yours are any example. I've met some admirable Muslims who practice a religion of peace and understanding, who do not find it necessary to insult others beliefs or challenge them out of a nameless defensiveness born of emotional and psychological insecurities. Sadly, they haven't been around here in a while.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
:biglaugh:

Again?
I'm just copy-pasting my response FROM THE OTHER DAY.



By the way, while I am here: im is not a sign of respect in this case. It is a plural marker, used for the agreement of plural nouns. Ha klavim ha mekhirim ratzim: literally the dogs the quicks are running-s.

Additionally the text does not say Muhammad. It says makhmadim, meaning 'lovely' or literally 'delights'. The full text of this part in Hebrew is is Chiku mamtakim v'khulo machamadim zeh dodi v'zeh re'i b'not yerushalayim, and it does not mention Muhammad. They share a root word in meaning, but they are not the same word, it is not a name of Muhammad. Why would Muhammad crop up in Jewish erotica? :shrug:


Hopefully now this 'attempt' has been destroyed, we can get back to the topic at hand?
Absolutly that the name of Prophet Muhammad mention in many places in the Holy Bible , but the Jews edited it because they discover that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) not Jewish as they waiting for , i don't care if it's erotic or x bible , My care is the spelling , it's the same as the arabic word (MUHAMMAD) , You know what
go to this site (hebrew/english) and try to find out what is the letters מַחֲמַדִּ

Free Online Hebrew Dictionary. Type in Hebrew/English. Translate Hebrew or Phonetic Hebrew.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
No we didn't get one,although we were supposed to,lucky in a way as there were some very intollerant ones who killed Gays,Apostates,Adulterers,Atheists.
You mean , you are away from muslims , i guess the muslims are all around the world , but there is no compare between the crimes that done by the west (christians) in the past and now , before the WW1 and after , and the crimes that done by some criminals Bin laden and his friends (called them selfs muslims)
 
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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Oh yeah, why don't you prove that LOGICALLY?
Well, here are the criteria, AFAICT based on the whole "Muhammad is in the Bible" argument:

- only the person's first name has to be mentioned.
- it doesn't have to be in a context that actually refers to the person.
- it doesn't even have to be in a context where the name is used as a person's name.

So... with that in mind, go to any of the many online, searchable English translations of the Quran and search for "Isaac" (the equivalent of the Hebrew Yitzhak). I get 17 hits when I do it.

Therefore, by the criteria established by Godobeyer, Yitzhak Rabin is in the Quran 17 times more than Muhammad is in the Bible. QED.
 

Starsoul

Truth
Is this supposed to even be 'debate'? Is this the Islamic 'I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I' argument? To be honest, I actually haven't heard such a rebuttal since I was in junior high school.

How many Christians have you met that are agnostic? Do you even know what the word 'agnostic' means? Do you even know what the word 'Christian' means?

You are correct about one thing, however, I certainly DO NOT respect your religion, as least not the way you practice it, if these posts of yours are any example. I've met some admirable Muslims who practice a religion of peace and understanding, who do not find it necessary to insult others beliefs or challenge them out of a nameless defensiveness born of emotional and psychological insecurities. Sadly, they haven't been around here in a while.

You Never once went INTO the topic as to what was Islamic or not, And now you'll start referring to Islam to shut other people up so that you can go on with your offensive verbal diahorrea. All of your posts to this thread were respectful? not insulting? You couldn't even go on about one thing respectfully, all you did was defend your lack of interest in any sort of knowledge by offering abuse and refuse to even accept to grasp the OP, owing it to 'lack of lustre, un-impressive graphics'?. I dont even have to say, but the logic here seems trapped way before junior high school.

And I know many respectful and Respectable christians and agnostics who don't trash Muslims out of 'their own ignorance' over their stance like you have.

And thankfully i'm not one of those who , after running out of ways to engage in a conversation constructively, indulge in self-righteous profanity by mincing out Blasphemous names to start bullying other's Respectful figures because a verbal abuse dictionary is all they seem to be readily equipped with, in defense to something that , oh well, they did not even really believe in ,in the first place.
 
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Breathe

Hostis humani generis
Absolutly that the name of Prophet Muhammad mention in many places in the Holy Bible , but the Jews edited it because they discover that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) not Jewish as they waiting for ,
:biglaugh:


I really doubt that. Prove it.

Not only is that nonsensical, but it's also highly doubtable. Prove the Jewish texts have been edited to that degree, and not slight alterations in spelling over time for example. Show ones that differ to such a major degree from the current ones, otherwise it's just typical Islamic apologetic slander.

i don't care if it's erotic or x bible ,
Well, YOU SHOULD care about the context. Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

My name occurs in Sikh holy texts in the same way Muhammad appears within the Bible. Does that mean I'm prophesied in the Sikh holy texts? Don't be daft, of course it doesn't.

My care is the spelling , it's the same as the arabic word (MUHAMMAD)
You should also care about the context. Otherwise it's REALLY grasping at straws. You know. Extremely. Embarassingly.

Finding a word that's got the same root and saying it's the name of a prophet, regardless of where it is or what it means then blaming the Jewish people for altering it as opposed to you having the wrong stuff. Please. :facepalm:


, You know what
go to this site (hebrew/english) and try to find out what is the letters מַחֲמַדִּ

Free Online Hebrew Dictionary. Type in Hebrew/English. Translate Hebrew or Phonetic Hebrew.
The word you suggested it pets according to that dictionary, lol.

By the way, Muhammad in Hebrew, with niqqud (similar to harakat) is: מֻחַמַּד. The one you gave me was מַחֲמַדִּ. The one used in the Hebrew text is מַחֲמַדִּים.

So, hmmm, eh?

מַחֲמַדִּ ,מֻחַמַּד ,מַחֲמַדִּ. Different niqqud (vowel markings). Different meanings. Same root. Big whoop.


Song of Solomon 5:16, Hebrew Translation: Hebrew OT: BHS (Consonants and Vowels):

חִכֹּו מַמְתַקִּים וְכֻלֹּו מַחֲמַדִּים זֶה דֹודִי וְזֶה רֵעִי בְּנֹות יְרוּשָׁלִָם׃ .16


Notice it is different in vowel markings from מַחֲמַדִּ. This word (makhmadim, which is NOT Muhammad) literally means something similar to "delights". It is not used a name here, and the im is not a sign of respect, it is a plural.

Puh-lease. :rolleyes:



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Strike 2.
 

Starsoul

Truth
:biglaugh:


I really doubt that. Prove it.

Not only is that nonsensical, but it's also highly doubtable. Prove the Jewish texts have been edited to that degree, and not slight alterations in spelling over time for example. Show ones that differ to such a major degree from the current ones, otherwise it's just typical Islamic apologetic slander.

Proofs would be required by those who cannot even hold to ONE carbon copy of their Holy book. The Quran exists in its entirety in exactly the same words, phrases and texts. No shuffling, no mixing with human's interpretation in it. All Muslims hold the exact same copy of the book.

How can you justify the several editions and VERSIONS of the Torah and the Bible, who contradict each other in a lot of places, to be an EXACTING proof when not even one copy even matches the similarity in text? How does one know which version is accurate?

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A Bible (from Greek τὰ βιβλία ta biblia "the books") is a collection of sacred scripture of Judaism and Christianity. There is no single version: both the individual books (Biblical canon) and their order vary.



The Hebrew Bible contains 24 books that were rearranged into 39 by Christian denominations, while complete Christian Bibles range from the 66 books of the Protestant canon to 81 books in the Ethiopian Orthodox Bible.[1] The oldest surviving Christian Bibles are Greek manuscripts from the 4th century; the oldest complete Jewish Bible is a Greek translation, also dating to the 4th century. The oldest complete manuscripts of the Hebrew Bible (the Masoretic text) date from the Middle Ages.[2]


The Hebrew Bible, or Tanakh, is divided into three parts: (1) the five books of the Torah ("teaching" or "law") comprise the origins of the Israelite nation, its laws and its covenant with the God of Israel; (2) the Nevi'im ("prophets") containing the historic account of ancient Israel and Judah plus works of prophecy; and (3) the Ketuvim ("writings"), poetic and philosophical works such as the Psalms and the Book of Job.[3] Christian Bibles include the books of the Hebrew Bible, but arranged in a different fashion: Hebrew Scripture ends with the people of Israel restored to Jerusalem and the temple and the Christian arrangement ends with the book of the prophet Malachi.


Jewish canon

Main article: Tanakh
The Tanakh (Hebrew: [FONT=&quot]תנ"ך[/FONT]) consists of 24 books.

Bible - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
You mean , you are away from muslims , i guess the muslims are all around the world , but there is no compare between the crimes that done by the west (christians) in the past and now , before the WW1 and after , and the crimes that done by some criminals Bin laden and his friends (called them selfs muslims)

I agree about the Christians and what they did in the past but a few hundred years ago Britain along with other western countries the Governments seperated from the Church and became secular.


As for being away from Muslims,not true ,there are many Muslims here but i have never met one that presents this type of nonsense in a desperate attempt to dupe people into believeing,to be honest i doubt there are many Muslims who believe it as it has been shown to be wrong time and time again.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
:biglaugh:

I really doubt that. Prove it.



Not only is that nonsensical, but it's also highly doubtable. Prove the Jewish texts have been edited to that degree, and not slight alterations in spelling over time for example. Show ones that differ to such a major degree from the current ones, otherwise it's just typical Islamic apologetic slander.
I gave you a verify proof and you deny it , some times you don't need to any thing for history of people denied by God .

De 32:21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people;
I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.
Mt 21:43 43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.





Well, YOU SHOULD care about the context. Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

My name occurs in Sikh holy texts in the same way Muhammad appears within the Bible. Does that mean I'm prophesied in the Sikh holy texts? Don't be daft, of course it doesn't.
cool exmeple , but , its could not hide the truth

The word you suggested it pets according to that dictionary, lol.

By the way, Muhammad in Hebrew, with niqqud (similar to harakat) is: מֻחַמַּד. The one you gave me was מַחֲמַדִּ. The one used in the Hebrew text is מַחֲמַדִּים.

So, hmmm, eh?

מַחֲמַדִּ ,מֻחַמַּד ,מַחֲמַדִּ. Different niqqud (vowel markings). Different meanings. Same root. Big whoop.


Song of Solomon 5:16, Hebrew Translation: Hebrew OT: BHS (Consonants and Vowels):

חִכֹּו מַמְתַקִּים וְכֻלֹּו מַחֲמַדִּים זֶה דֹודִי וְזֶה רֵעִי בְּנֹות יְרוּשָׁלִָם׃ .16


Notice it is different in vowel markings from מַחֲמַדִּ. This word (makhmadim, which is NOT Muhammad) literally means something similar to "delights". It is not used a name here, and the im is not a sign of respect, it is a plural.

Puh-lease. :rolleyes:



:baseball:
Strike 2.
I doubt that you used the the translator site that i gave you (english/hebrew) , you need to know the spelling of each letter of this word , מַ חֲ מַ דִּ .
I will help you (as you know the hebrew read from the right to the left as the arabic)
Free Online Hebrew Dictionary. Type in Hebrew/English. Translate Hebrew or Phonetic Hebrew.
Hebrew alphabet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

מַ = M (Mem)
חֲ = H' (Het)
מַ = M (Mem)
דִּ = D (Dalet)

I ask all the world to verify this word and these letters.... I guess i will become a teacher of hebrew here ....I guess the Hebrew is very easy, because it's very close to arabic language . (spelling or letters)
 
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Breathe

Hostis humani generis
I gave you a verify proof and you deny it , some times you don't need to any thing for history of people denied by God .
It was not proof!!!!

De 32:21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people;
I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.
Mt 21:43 43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Lovely, now is it relevant? Is it compare a scripture day?

cool exmeple , but , its could not hide the truth
It shows how unreasonable the claim is. I can find my own name in a holy text. Big whoop. Doesn't mean anything in context though.

I doubt that you used the the translator site that i gave you (english/hebrew) , you need to know the spelling of each letter of this word , מַ חֲ מַ דִּ .
I copy and pasted it. It said pets according to the dictionary for me. Don't assume, it's rude. K?

I will help you (as you know the hebrew read from the right to the left as the arabic)
No thanks. I've already done it.

Machmad (also spelled makhmad, mahmad)
מחמד
adj./n. sweetheart, darling; delight, charm


I ask all the world to verify this word and these letters.... I guess i will become a teacher of hebrew here ....I guess the Hebrew is very easy, because it's very close to arabic language . (spelling or letters)
The letters you provided are: M-H-M-D. Yes, very good, it shares a root with Muhammad, the name of the prophet of Islam. However, this is read as machmad (mahmad).

Yes, it does mean delight, or sweetheart, and so on. I just asked a Hebrew speaker. Muhammad is spelled as מוחמד, or מֻחַמַּד. Either way it's still not the same as the one you provided which is used in the scripture. I have provided the transliteration of the Hebrew word, the verse itself, the verse in context, and its meaning.


The closest to opposition I have received from it is "It means Muhammad, the Jews™ have altered it!".



Strike 3. OUT.


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