"Trans" is clearly a hot topic. But what is it?

[Estro Felino]

As the old saying goes .. "You can polish a turd to look like a gem but underneath its still a turd"

Its just an old saying. Hopefully none will take it offensive.

Social acceptance is the least of their problems.

 

[Estro Felino]

As the old saying goes .. "You can polish a turd to look like a gem but underneath its still a turd"

Its just an old saying. Hopefully none will take it offensive.

On question: it's like a person who has a a medical problem and a surgery can save their life, meaning they can save their own inner balance.

Do you think they give a damn about what others think of themselves after the surgery?
I don't think so, dear.

 

[We Never Know]

On question: it's like a person who has a a medical problem and a surgery can save their life, meaning they can save their own inner balance.

Do you think they give a damn about what others think of themselves after the surgery?
I don't think so, dear.

Surgery can change your looks but surgery can never change who you are.....

So in other words...You can polish a turd to look like a gem but underneath its still a turd"

 

[Estro Felino]

Surgery can change your looks but surgery can never change who you are.....

So in other words...You can polish a turd to look like a gem but underneath its still a turd"

Why do you focus on looks? Appearances are deceiving.
The endocrine system is about the psyche. The well-being of the brain.
I guess you do know that if you removed your genitalia with surgery, your brain and your psychological welfare would completely change. And your body will start to change irreversibly, as well.

 

[We Never Know]

Why do you focus on looks? Appearances are deceiving.
The endocrine system is about the psyche. The well-being of the brain.
I guess you do know that if you removed your genitalia with surgery, your brain and your psychological welfare would completely change. And your body will start to change irreversibly, as well.

Would your DNA change? Nope.

Hence again..... You can polish a turd to look like a gem but underneath its still a turd"

 

[Estro Felino]

Would your DNA change? Nope.

Hence again..... You can polish a turd to look like a gem but underneath its still a turd"

No...absolutely not.
But you know...transwomen can have sex with a man and never get pregnant.
I guess...it's a plus.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

As the old saying goes .. "You can polish a turd to look like a gem but underneath its still a turd"

Its just an old saying. Hopefully none will take it offensive.

And carbon under high pressure becomes a diamond.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Would that be someone who transition all the way(private parts and etc)?

No. There is no "all the way" as not everyone does the same things, even medically, to transition. Not everyone even can. Hardly any trans men and only about half of trans women get genital surgery. I don't really know why people keep obsessing over the genitals of trans people, and it's really quite rude. People don't walk around with their bits exposed, as if that's how we tell someone is a man or woman. It's irrelevant to daily life, except when it comes to having sex with someone. Those surgeries are very expensive, full of risks and potential complications and aren't all that great in many cases, anyway.

Would this be someone who stays as they were born but lives as another gender?

Some people can't go on hormone therapy, for example, because they have health issues and can't take it. There's practical reasons there.

 

[Kfox]

It improves because the men who have a female soul, can finally have an endocrine system similar to that of a biological woman. So they take hormones, they have surgery, the voice becomes feminine, the face becomes feminine.
Same as a woman who feels her endocrine system is that of a man.

1:10 I do want to undergo the surgical intervention because the greatest suffering of mine is my genitalia.

What is a soul? What is an endocrine system, how is the male endocrine system different from the female endocrine system? And what affect do they have on the body?

 

[Kfox]

"How does one's life improve by adopting a gender that is different from your biology?"

You would have to ask those that have adopted such as to their life improvements.
IMO they are the only ones that can answer that question.

Yeah; that's what I'm trying to do.

 

[Estro Felino]

What is a soul? What is an endocrine system? And what affect do they have on the body?

What we are like on the inside.
Psychologists study the soul, since psyche means soul in Greek.

The endocrine system is the body apparatus producing hormones. It's made up of many organs, such as thyroid, hypothalamus, adrenal glands, ovaries, etc...etc...

 

[Kfox]

What we are like on the inside.
Psychologists study the soul, since psyche means soul in Greek.

So the soul is strictly mental, something based on your thoughts; is that correct?

The endocrine system is the body apparatus producing hormones. It's made up of many organs, such as thyroid, hypothalamus, adrenal glands, ovaries, etc...etc...

So when a trans person gets surgery, they get their entire endocrine system, all of those organs and glands replaced with a system of the opposite sex? Is this top? Or bottom surgery.

 

[Estro Felino]

So when a trans person gets surgery, they get their entire endocrine system, all of those organs and glands replaced with a system of the opposite sex? Is this top? Or bottom surgery.

Absolutely not. They need to use artificial hormones of the opposite sex to fix the lack of hormones.

 

[fantome profane]

Yeah; that's what I'm trying to do.

That is good, it is good to seek understanding.

But at the same time you need to understand that nobody owes you an explanation.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Would your DNA change? Nope.

Hence again..... You can polish a turd to look like a gem but underneath its still a turd"

Does that matter? I don't quite understand why people get hung up over genetics. If a person has all the aspects of one gender, why would genetics, a thing that you would never know or directly experience except possibly in a lab, have anything to do with your relationship with them?

Rather than "polishing a turd," you may want to consider the analogy of emerging from a chrysalis since for many transfolks, they feel as if they are presenting their true selves.

And this may have a genetic component, especially if there is genetic coding that leads to different hormonal balances, brain structures, and sometimes gonadal or secondary sexual characteristics from what we label as "average." Focusing on the Xs and ys is ignoring a whole forest for a tree.

 

[Kfox]

Absolutely not. They need to use artificial hormones of the opposite sex to fix the lack of hormones.

Okay; so if I understand you correctly, the endocrine system is the physical, and the soul is the mental. When a person is born with a (example) male endocrine system but has a female soul, they work to align the endocrine system (physical) with the soul (mental); rather than visa versa, is that correct? If so, how is the female soul different from the male soul?

 

[Estro Felino]

Okay; so if I understand you correctly, the endocrine system is the physical, and the soul is the mental. When a person is born with a (example) male endocrine system but has a female soul, they work to align the endocrine system (physical) with the soul (mental); rather than visa versa, is that correct? If so, how is the female soul different from the male soul?

Oh...I don't know...
I really fail to understand what's the point of going to a soccer stadium to watch 22 guys kicking a ball. For 90 minutes. I could understand 30 minutes....
but 90? Omg...That's something I will never understand.
While it's more pleasant to watch 90 minutes of fashion show or of romantic movie.

 

[Kfox]

Oh...I don't know...
I really fail to understand what's the point of going to a soccer stadium to watch 22 guys kicking a ball. For 90 minutes. I could understand 30 minutes....
but 90? Omg...That's something I will never understand.
While it's more pleasant to watch 90 minutes of fashion show or of romantic movie.

I can’t understand why someone would wanna watch soccer or a fashion show for 90 minutes. However I do understand there are both men and women who love watching these thing; and the preferences of each do not always divide along gender lines.

 

[Estro Felino]

I can’t understand why someone would wanna watch soccer or a fashion show for 90 minutes. However I do understand there are both men and women who love watching these thing; and the preferences of each do not always divide along gender lines.

I explain you something. God had decided to create something very complex and sophisticated: Adam, so the male brain.
Then he realized he had created something monstrously complicated.
So he decided to simplify and created the female brain, Eve.

I mean...men are so complicated. If a woman is frigid, and sexually unavailable, they are sad. If a woman is a nympho, too sexually available, they flee.

 

[Father Heathen]

As the old saying goes .. "You can polish a turd to look like a gem but underneath its still a turd"

Its just an old saying. Hopefully none will take it offensive.

How do you suppose this idiom fits exactly? It implies a thing or situation that can't be improved. If transitioning has improved the lives of those who have done it, then the idiom doesn't work.