Transgenderism

[Jainarayan]

but science declares its to do with being social. So when it spreads, like it did in Ancient Greece becoming normalised I think grooming can have something to do with it.

Total load of crap. Except for Quora I’ve rarely encountered such ignorant comments, suppositions, and assumptions as you’re vomiting and defecating in this thread.

 

[Ella S.]

In all seriousness one day you will see God for yourself. I strongly suspect the countenance on atheist faces will be somewhat like a blend of the various countenances of Phil Spector both seen during his trial and the photos taken of his last years in prison when he knew the game was up. He looked bonkers and not with the program to me. Good luck.

Nobody will ever be seeing God any days because there isn't one, in all seriousness.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I was actually going to bother and reply to another one of your posts you made some time ago but forgot/lost interest and can’t find it now. From memory I think you said something along the lines of you’d butt in at my judgment in the afterlife and put in a good word. That’s more nonsense.

1. I’m a Christian, you’re an atheist. The Bible clearly states you won’t be able to influence my judgment as mine will be at the bema seat, being a Christian, yours however will be at the Great White Throne. They will be distinctly different judgments.

2. You, as an atheist, won’t have a resurrection body like Christ, won’t have a mouth so won’t be able to speak. You will just stand at the Great White Throne Judgment and have to accept what’s coming.

So, if you're an ex-Christian but not an atheist what happens?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Total load of crap. Except for Quora I’ve rarely encountered such ignorant comments, suppositions, and assumptions as you’re vomiting and defecating in this thread.

It reminds me of that Disney song, You Are a Human Animal. This "higher order of animals" thing is so dated and out of alignment with how nature really works you might as well say we're the only animals who can think, who can reason, who can read.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

So, if you're an ex-Christian but not an atheist what happens?

I don't believe what will happen is what Christians believe or expect to happen to people after they die. In my opinion, which is based on my experiences, the afterlife will be substantially different from what Christians expect it to be. I also believe that the Bible's depictions of the afterlife are inaccurate and misleading. Of course, I'm sharing my personal perspective of the afterlife, based on what I've experienced with the paranormal throughout the years. You are, of course, free to accept or reject what I have shared. It is entirely up to you. It won't bother me if you choose not to believe what I have told you.

 

[Tiberius]

Just quoting the creoline

May I ask your view on how convincing the evidence is for both creationism and evolution?

 

[Audie]

May I ask your view on how convincing the evidence is for both creationism and evolution?

There's no evidence at all for "creation" so its not too
convincing unless for somethings wrong with a man's head.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I don't believe what will happen is what Christians believe or expect to happen to people after they die. In my opinion, which is based on my experiences, the afterlife will be substantially different from what Christians expect it to be. I also believe that the Bible's depictions of the afterlife are inaccurate and misleading. Of course, I'm sharing my personal perspective of the afterlife, based on what I've experienced with the paranormal throughout the years. You are, of course, free to accept or reject what I have shared. It is entirely up to you. It won't bother me if you choose not to believe what I have told you.

I tend to lean towards a Big Bang-Big Crunch-Big Bang-Big Crunch sort of thing, a literal Eternal Recurrence.
Spiritually, I've had some spiritual experiences But I have no idea what they really were or mean, so I tend to leave that off to the side.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

There's no evidence at all for "creation" so its not too
convincing unless for somethings wrong with a man's head.

Even Richard Dawkins concedes the Simulator hypothesis is a gnarly beast to tackle, and indeed that would be a form of creation.

 

[Apostle John]

Total load of crap. Except for Quora I’ve rarely encountered such ignorant comments, suppositions, and assumptions as you’re vomiting and defecating in this thread.

The following is an excerpt from an academic paper;

Historical Views of Homosexuality: Ancient Greece​

Ancient Greece featured at least five different varieties of same-sex relations: (a) pederastic relations, typically between adolescent boys and adult men who were not yet married; (b) relations between male youths of approximately the same age; less frequently (c) homosexual relations between fully adult men; (d) age-differentiated relations between females; and (e) relations between adult females. The origins of pederasty appear to be related to the relatively late age of marriage for males, which evolved as a response to needs to limit population growth in the scarcity-driven economy of the 7th century BCE. The contexts of pederastic socialization (athletics, military comradeship, hunting, cockfighting, and intellectual/musical performance at elite symposia) point toward masculinizing pedagogy and mentorship as key social functions.

However, social attitudes toward pederasty were not uniform throughout all Greek city-states in all periods. Evidence from several domains suggests that as Athens became more democratic and saw greater distribution of prosperity throughout all social classes, the age of male marriage declined; larger families became socially desirable, while non-procreative alternatives to marital sexuality became less fashionable and even morally dubious. What had always been characterized as an elite habitus during the archaic period and first half of the 5th century no longer seemed at home in a political system where appeal to the common man defined success and popularity. Some philosophical texts from the 4th century BCEcharacterize physical sex between males as para physin (“beyond nature”), whereas others recognize the possibility that it is determined through natural processes grounded in anatomy or spiritual heredity.

Of most interest for modern politics is the question of what Greek historical evidence can tell us about the ability of adolescent boys to consent to intimate relations with adult men. Modern jurisprudence, especially in the United States, assumes a universal inability to provide informed consent until well after the onset of puberty, and even voluntary relations between adolescent boys and men are heavily sanctioned in the criminal justice system. Although classical Athens featured a robust tradition of criticizing pederasty for a number of reasons, the notion that pre-adult sex with an older partner was psychologically harmful to boys was not among them. The Greeks viewed adolescent (and even younger) boys as inherently sexual, and the widespread practice of nudity in athletic exercise and daily life conditioned Greek boys to a greater degree of frankness and physical disinhibition. Both iconographical and textual evidence show that Greek adolescents were quite capable of rejecting adult suitors or discontinuing relationships that no longer pleased them.


Grooming appeared apparent back then.

 

[Apostle John]

So, if you're an ex-Christian but not an atheist what happens?

You will be treated just like an atheist.

 

[metis]

They were hunted to extinction. It’s the paleontogists that can’t explain how they are extinct, I think you’ll find they disagree with different theories. Evolution can be considered similar to one of the languages given by God at the Tower of Babel. All it does is confuse people, particularly atheists.

Humans did not appear for millions of years after the large dinosaurs went extinct, and we did know how they died, which was due to a sudden cooling of Earth due to a large meteor that hit near the Yucatan. Some of the smaller dinosaurs evolved much later into birds and mammals.

 

[Apostle John]

Humans did not appear for millions of years after the large dinosaurs went extinct, and we did know how they died, which was due to a sudden cooling of Earth due to a large meteor that hit near the Yucatan. Some of the smaller dinosaurs evolved much later into birds and mammals.

The meteor strike near the Yucatan is only one theory not all palaeontology can agree on. “A sudden cooling” from that size of meteor strike would kill all land animals with the devastation it would cause. You will have to guess better than that to give your evolution theory credence. What factually happened to dinosaurs is fundamental to evolution theory, there needs to be no assumption involved.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

The following is an excerpt from an academic paper;

Historical Views of Homosexuality: Ancient Greece​

Ancient Greece featured at least five different varieties of same-sex relations: (a) pederastic relations, typically between adolescent boys and adult men who were not yet married; (b) relations between male youths of approximately the same age; less frequently (c) homosexual relations between fully adult men; (d) age-differentiated relations between females; and (e) relations between adult females. The origins of pederasty appear to be related to the relatively late age of marriage for males, which evolved as a response to needs to limit population growth in the scarcity-driven economy of the 7th century BCE. The contexts of pederastic socialization (athletics, military comradeship, hunting, cockfighting, and intellectual/musical performance at elite symposia) point toward masculinizing pedagogy and mentorship as key social functions.

However, social attitudes toward pederasty were not uniform throughout all Greek city-states in all periods. Evidence from several domains suggests that as Athens became more democratic and saw greater distribution of prosperity throughout all social classes, the age of male marriage declined; larger families became socially desirable, while non-procreative alternatives to marital sexuality became less fashionable and even morally dubious. What had always been characterized as an elite habitus during the archaic period and first half of the 5th century no longer seemed at home in a political system where appeal to the common man defined success and popularity. Some philosophical texts from the 4th century BCEcharacterize physical sex between males as para physin (“beyond nature”), whereas others recognize the possibility that it is determined through natural processes grounded in anatomy or spiritual heredity.

Of most interest for modern politics is the question of what Greek historical evidence can tell us about the ability of adolescent boys to consent to intimate relations with adult men. Modern jurisprudence, especially in the United States, assumes a universal inability to provide informed consent until well after the onset of puberty, and even voluntary relations between adolescent boys and men are heavily sanctioned in the criminal justice system. Although classical Athens featured a robust tradition of criticizing pederasty for a number of reasons, the notion that pre-adult sex with an older partner was psychologically harmful to boys was not among them. The Greeks viewed adolescent (and even younger) boys as inherently sexual, and the widespread practice of nudity in athletic exercise and daily life conditioned Greek boys to a greater degree of frankness and physical disinhibition. Both iconographical and textual evidence show that Greek adolescents were quite capable of rejecting adult suitors or discontinuing relationships that no longer pleased them.


Grooming appeared apparent back then.

That's pederasty, which is between grown men and young boys. That's separate from homosexuality in general. Weirdly, you can find pederasty being acceptable in some cultures still today, whereas at same time they will punish consensual homosexuality between adults with the death penalty or prison. Afghanistan is a good example of this. Sex with boys is widespread and nothing is done about it but if you're a gay man who wants to be with a grown man - run for your life.

 

[metis]

The meteor strike near the Yucatan is only one theory not all palaeontology can agree on. “A sudden cooling” from that size of meteor strike would kill all land animals with the devastation it would cause.

Not the warm-blooded ones and/or the ones that could seek some shelter.

Hey, like it or not-- it happened.

 

[Apostle John]

Not the warm-blooded ones and/or the ones that could seek some shelter.

Hey, like it or not-- it happened.

The Flood of Noah laid down the fossil record, that’s the only rational explanation.

A child could arrange bones and skulls in a line, in order of size and say ‘hey look they got bigger so we must have evolved from them’ without showing the actual process, only allowing imagination to run wild so as to assert this must have happened.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You will be treated just like an atheist.

Your god sounds like a cruel jerk.

 

[Apostle John]

That's pederasty, which is between grown men and young boys. That's separate from homosexuality in general. Weirdly, you can find pederasty being acceptable in some cultures still today, whereas at same time they will punish consensual homosexuality between adults with the death penalty or prison. Afghanistan is a good example of this. Sex with boys is widespread and nothing is done about it but if you're a gay man who wants to be with a grown man - run for your life.

The whole article was referring to all homosexuality including pederasty. Yeah I once saw a documentary about ‘dancing boys’ in Afghanistan, I didn’t know it was widespread. That’s another oddity.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I’ve always ignored philosophy not having any interest or seeing any point to it. That wager really only applies to sinners and not the saved.

Nah, it applies to everyone. Especially the person hedging their bets on the one specific god they've chosen out of thousands.

 

[Ella S.]

I don't believe what will happen is what Christians believe or expect to happen to people after they die. In my opinion, which is based on my experiences, the afterlife will be substantially different from what Christians expect it to be. I also believe that the Bible's depictions of the afterlife are inaccurate and misleading. Of course, I'm sharing my personal perspective of the afterlife, based on what I've experienced with the paranormal throughout the years. You are, of course, free to accept or reject what I have shared. It is entirely up to you. It won't bother me if you choose not to believe what I have told you.

I have a lot of respect for the fact that you've attempted to figure out what's going on with the afterlife through evidence and experimentation, while most people simply go along with whatever they were told by people who take mythology literally.

If there is an afterlife and we're ever going to figure out what that afterlife is, it will be people like you leading our investigations. Your position earns more credence than anything anyone asserts based on scripture or doctrine.