Transgenderism

[metis]

The same Church that told me lied to me about what science is and what motivates scientists.

As did my evangelical church that I left long ago.

 

[Apostle John]

Absolutely false as our sexual attraction is more a matter of our hormone level. Here: Hormone - Wikipedia

As an example, if you are heterosexual, picture yourself having sex with another man and see how that hits ya.

There’s bisexuality isn’t there, kind of blows that myth out the water. Yes I am 100% heterosexual and would never be homosexual.

 

[metis]

There’s bisexuality isn’t there, kind of blows that myth out the water.

I have not seen research on bisexuality, although it may be out there, thus I can't comment on that.

 

[SkepticThinker]

The spirit of stupor.

So ... nothing.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

There’s bisexuality isn’t there, kind of blows that myth out the water. Yes I am 100% heterosexual and would never be homosexual.

Yes, bisexuality exists and no, it blows nothing out of any water.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

There’s no scientific reason, using the evolution model, to explain why homosexuality and transgenderism is rampant today

You've already demonstrated that you don't understand the theory. That pretty much invalidates your opinions about what it does and doesn't do.

only oddball assumptions from the pseudoscience community.

That's the creationists. Evolution is science. Creationism is not, and when it attempts to invoke science, it generates pseudoscience.

To say it happens as a result of ‘socialising’ is nothing to do with evolution.

Sure, because how could social interactions be related to survival and fecundity?

I don’t want to (or ever will thank God) gravitate towards you or your way of thinking.

I say the same, but in reverse. I might find myself on the Internet trying to defend the indefensible while unarmed.

I don’t believe it’s possible for a good, Christian, Bible believing Church to mislead anyone.

I don't believe it's possible for it not to if you believe what you're told there.

I was conditioned by science and was therefore totally lost before God spoke to me and lifted me out of this delusion.

I'm glad you found comfort there.

I much prefer now being a child of God.

Sometimes I try to add up how many hours of praying, Bible study, and church going, and how many dollars I have saved by leaving Christianity about four decades ago for humanism, and what I did with that time and money instead. Had I stayed a Christian I probably would still be working rather than having retired to paradise over a decade ago, and probably would have raised kids, which would have contributed to needing to still be working, and would have made our lives of travelling the word and performing music in coffee houses and restaurants untenable what with the braces and soccer lessons. I know that my wife wouldn't have married me as a Christian, and we've been happily married for 33 years. This was a very good move for me.

 

[Apostle John]

You've already demonstrated that you don't understand the theory. That pretty much invalidates your opinions about what it does and doesn't do.

That's the creationists. Evolution is science. Creationism is not, and when it attempts to invoke science, it generates pseudoscience.

Sure, because how could social interactions be related to survival and fecundity?

I say the same, but in reverse. I might find myself on the Internet trying to defend the indefensible while unarmed.

I don't believe it's possible for it not to if you believe what you're told there.

I'm glad you found comfort there.

Sometimes I try to add up how many hours of praying, Bible study, and church going, and how many dollars I have saved by leaving Christianity about four decades ago for humanism, and what I did with that time and money instead. Had I stayed a Christian I probably would still be working rather than having retired to paradise over a decade ago, and probably would have raised kids, which would have contributed to needing to still be working, and would have made our lives of travelling the word and performing music in coffee houses and restaurants untenable what with the braces and soccer lessons. I know that my wife wouldn't have married me as a Christian, and we've been happily married for 33 years. This was a very good move for me.

In all seriousness one day you will see God for yourself. I strongly suspect the countenance on atheist faces will be somewhat like a blend of the various countenances of Phil Spector both seen during his trial and the photos taken of his last years in prison when he knew the game was up. He looked bonkers and not with the program to me. Good luck.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

In all seriousness one day you will see God for yourself. I strongly suspect the countenance on atheist faces will be somewhat like a blend of the various countenances of Phil Spector both seen during his trial and the photos taken of his last years in prison when he knew the game was up. He looked bonkers and not with the program to me. Good luck.

In all seriousness, what you've stated about seeing God is based on your beliefs and is an example of Pascal's wager. It isn't based on any actual facts.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Sometimes I try to add up how many hours of praying, Bible study, and church going, and how many dollars I have saved by leaving Christianity about four decades ago for humanism, and what I did with that time and money instead. Had I stayed a Christian I probably would still be working rather than having retired to paradise over a decade ago, and probably would have raised kids, which would have contributed to needing to still be working, and would have made our lives of travelling the word and performing music in coffee houses and restaurants untenable what with the braces and soccer lessons. I know that my wife wouldn't have married me as a Christian, and we've been happily married for 33 years. This was a very good move for me.

I'm happy for you, and I, like you, have had a very positive experience leaving Christianity, as have many others I know. I can honestly say that renouncing my Christian faith and belief in God was the best decision I've ever made for my mental and emotional health. I don't regret my decision, but I wish I had made it years ago instead of clinging to the false hope I had in God. I believe I could have healed emotionally sooner and saved myself years of despair.

 

[Apostle John]

In all seriousness, what you've stated about seeing God is based on your beliefs and is an example of Pascal's wager. It isn't based on any actual facts.

I’ve always ignored philosophy not having any interest or seeing any point to it. That wager really only applies to sinners and not the saved.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

The same Church that told me lied to me about what science is and what motivates scientists.

As did my evangelical church that I left long ago.

I am not joking when I say I know evangelical Christians who believe dinosaur fossils were planted by demons to mislead human beings into disbelieving in creation and/or God. I've also met evangelical Christians who believe dinosaurs were on Noah's ark and that dinosaurs and humans once coexisted, but they are unable to explain why all the dinosaurs are now extinct. Some of these Christians informed me that this is a divine mystery that we are not meant to understand at this time and that it is wrong of us to question God. These Christians believe in creationism and a flat earth with absolute conviction.

 

[Apostle John]

I've also met evangelical Christians who believe dinosaurs were on Noah's ark and that dinosaurs and humans once coexisted, but they are unable to explain why all the dinosaurs are now extinct. These Christians believe in creationism

They were hunted to extinction. It’s the paleontogists that can’t explain how they are extinct, I think you’ll find they disagree with different theories. Evolution can be considered similar to one of the languages given by God at the Tower of Babel. All it does is confuse people, particularly atheists.

 

[Father Heathen]

They were hunted to extinction. It’s the paleontogists that can’t explain how they are extinct, I think you’ll find they disagree with different theories. Evolution can be considered similar to one of the languages given by God at the Tower of Babel. All it does is confuse people, particularly atheists.

 

[Father Heathen]

There’s bisexuality isn’t there, kind of blows that myth out the water. Yes I am 100% heterosexual and would never be homosexual.

Sexuality is a spectrum. And of course you would never be homosexual, because it isn't a choice.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

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Aw, look at Jesus holding the baby Velociraptor. Isn't that sweet?

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

In all seriousness one day you will see God for yourself.

If there is an afterlife, and if we are judged, it won't be by your god, and you might not like the outcome. The Christian god has been ruled out by the evidence for evolution, which theory is correct beyond reasonable doubt.

That's not to say that it is impossible that there was in intelligent designer of life on earth, but it would have to be one who tried to fool man and was found out by the discovery of a falsifying find left somewhere whether left mistakenly or left to be found.

Who would that be? Not the God of Genesis. Probably not a god at all, but rather, a superhuman race of extraterrestrials born of abiogenesis followed by evolution. In such a case, we should expect no afterlife, but let's go with a god or gods just so that we can imagine what an actual judgement day might be like.

What do you suppose such an intelligent designer would judge us on if such a thing (or race of things) existed? If these creatures are rational, which of course they would need to be, it would have to be on how one chose to use his twin human gifts, the faculty of reason (what is true) and the faculty of conscience (what is good and right). How do you think you'd do? How are you using those faculties?

What do you think of your gamble to go with Christianity now? In my opinion, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by betting against it as every atheist and most theists have.

 

[Father Heathen]

Aw, look at Jesus holding the baby Velociraptor. Isn't that sweet?

What do so-called paleontologists know? Flintstones were to true to life. Yabba dabba praise the Lord.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What do so-called paleontologists know? Flintstones were to true to life. Yabba dabba praise the Lord.

Shh! Shhh! You're getting too close to the secret ritual words uttered in the song my signature comes from. See, what people don't get is Satan loves comedy and to invoke him you have to shout like a Flintstone. Yabba Dabba Satan!
And then there's the secret password, and that comes from Coneheads.

 

[Apostle John]

If there is an afterlife, and if we are judged, it won't be by your god, and you might not like the outcome. The Christian god has been ruled out by the evidence for evolution, which is correct beyond reasonable doubt. That's not to say that it is impossible that there was in intelligent designer for life on earth, but it would have to be one tried to fool man and was found out by a falsifying find left somewhere whether left mistakenly or left to be found. Who would that be? Not the God of Genesis. Probably not a god at all, but rather, a superhuman race of extraterrestrials born of abiogenesis followed by evolution, just like us, but further developed. In such a case, we should expect no afterlife, but let's go with a god or gods just so that we can imagine what an actual judgement day might be like.

What do you suppose such an intelligent designer would judge us on if such a thing (or race of things) existed? If these creatures are rational, which of course they would need to be, it would have to be on how one chose to use his twin human gifts, the faculty of reason (what is true) and the faculty of conscience (what is good and right). How do you think you'd do? How are you using those faculties?

What do you think of your gamble to go with Christianity now? In my opinion, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by betting against it as every atheist and most theists have.

I was actually going to bother and reply to another one of your posts you made some time ago but forgot/lost interest and can’t find it now. From memory I think you said something along the lines of you’d butt in at my judgment in the afterlife and put in a good word. That’s more nonsense.

1. I’m a Christian, you’re an atheist. The Bible clearly states you won’t be able to influence my judgment as mine will be at the bema seat, being a Christian, yours however will be at the Great White Throne. They will be distinctly different judgments.

2. You, as an atheist, won’t have a resurrection body like Christ, won’t have a mouth so won’t be able to speak. You will just stand at the Great White Throne Judgment and have to accept what’s coming.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

I was actually going to bother and reply to another one of your posts you made some time ago but forgot/lost interest and can’t find it now. From memory I think you said something along the lines of you’d butt in at my judgment in the afterlife and put in a good word. That’s more nonsense.

1. I’m a Christian, you’re an atheist. The Bible clearly states you won’t be able to influence my judgment as mine will be at the bema seat, being a Christian, yours however will be at the Great White Throne. They will be distinctly different judgments.

2. You, as an atheist, won’t have a resurrection body like Christ, won’t have a mouth so won’t be able to speak. You will just stand at the Great White Throne Judgment and have to accept what’s coming.

I believe it's important to make it clear that these are your personal beliefs and shouldn't be presented as actual facts.