Transgenderism

[Apostle John]

Did you even read the post?

Yep I read it all. It had absolutely nothing to do with the original Theory of Evolution which has changed overtime to just ‘evolution’, even shrugging off what the likes of Darwin originally postulated. There’s no scientific reason, using the evolution model, to explain why homosexuality and transgenderism is rampant today, only oddball assumptions from the pseudoscience community. To say it happens as a result of ‘socialising’ is nothing to do with evolution.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

@ImmortalFlame
Just one question.
Do you think this family situation is normal?

Because in my country if a transwoman marries a ciswoman and have children together, the transwoman in question can never be considered a woman, juridically. The law will recognize her as a man, and as the father of her children.
Not only biological father but also legal father.

How can it be normal when trans people are statistically not normal?
And your country is decades behind amd not getting how things work. Stupid, even. It's not unusual for transpeople, men or women, to have kids especially when they are in denial. ****, we even have a crappy movie with a transwoman protagonist who had a kid before she transitioned.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yep I read it all. It had absolutely nothing to do with the original Theory of Evolution which has changed overtime to just ‘evolution’, even shrugging off what the likes of Darwin originally postulated. There’s no scientific reason, using the evolution model, to explain why homosexuality and transgenderism is rampant today, only oddball assumptions from the pseudoscience community. To say it happens as a result of ‘socialising’ is nothing to do with evolution.

Neither are rampant and evolution has no goal, end point, or conscious drive. It just happens and only those who don't understand it expect the process to be neat, clean and clearcut as if it were being guided by conscience, deliberate effort.

 

[Estro Felino]

How can it be normal when trans people are statistically not normal?
And your country is decades behind amd not getting how things work. Stupid, even. It's not unusual for transpeople, men or women, to have kids especially when they are in denial. ****, we even have a crappy movie with a transwoman protagonist who had a kid before she transitioned.

Here we have had cases of married men who transitioned.
But the wife immediately asked for divorce and got all the economic advantages, because she felt cheated.
Why? Because she was a straight woman into men. Not into women.

The funny thing is that the man didn't want to divorce her.

 

[Soandso]

Here we have had cases of married men who transitioned.
But the wife immediately asked for divorce and got all the economic advantages, because she felt cheated.
Why? Because she was a straight woman into men. Not into women.

The funny thing is that the man didn't want to divorce her.

What do you think was going through the mind of the person who wanted to transition even though they had a married life ahead of them?

 

[Estro Felino]

What do you think was going through the mind of the person who wanted to transition even though they had a married life ahead of them?

I have no idea.
But this person couldn't demand that their wife stayed.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Here we have had cases of married men who transitioned.
But the wife immediately asked for divorce and got all the economic advantages, because she felt cheated.
Why? Because she was a straight woman into men. Not into women.

The funny thing is that the man didn't want to divorce her.

So? Italy may not be big into this, but some people love someone for more than what's between the legs.

 

[Estro Felino]

So? Italy may not be big into this, but some people love someone for more than what's between the legs.

Surely. Nobody can blame someone if they have very specific sexual preferences.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Surely. Nobody can blame someone if they have very specific sexual preferences.

And some people aren't that shallow.

 

[Soandso]

I have no idea.
But this person couldn't demand that their wife stayed.

Demanded or wanted?

See, I'm a secret atheist. I want my family to know the real me and what I really think about certain things, but I can never tell them, because they wouldn't accept me if they knew. They can never get to know the real me

Now, I'm happy to just keep it to myself and only really show that aspect of myself to my friends who I know won't spill the beans to my family. Some atheists can't stand being in the closet and eventually come out with the truth even though they know they won't be accepted - living with a lie and pretending everything is ok is an uncomfortable feeling

Now imagine if deep down you were trans and dealing with something way more unaccepted. Not only do you have to worry about your family, but greater society, too. Many trans folks just pretend like everything is ok and just chug along with their lives until they can't stand it anymore, but by then they've been doing everything society expects if them until that point - like marriage. Also, some people just have a hard time disappointing or hurting the people they care about, and that also complicates things

Not all trans folks live their lives like this. Thankfully I live in a very accepting part of the country where people don't have to "fit in" or risk becoming an outcast. Because of this, I hear a lot less stories of people transitioning later in life here - I don't even know any, personally. Most trans folks I know here are just off doing their own thing openly

 

[Apostle John]

Neither are rampant and evolution has no goal, end point, or conscious drive. It just happens and only those who don't understand it expect the process to be neat, clean and clearcut as if it were being guided by conscience, deliberate effort.

Come on, evolutionists always talk about socialising being a driving factor in evolution in higher order animals. What’s social or socialising if it’s not a conscious act with deliberate effort involved. Evolutionists always hypothesise conscious decision making was needed in order to survive and was a motivating factor in the likes of hominid evolution.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Come on, evolutionists always talk about socialising being a driving factor in evolution in higher order animals. What’s social or socialising if it’s not a conscious act with deliberate effort involved. Evolutionists always hypothesise conscious decision making was needed in order to survive and was a motivating factor in the likes of hominid evolution.

What the hell's an "evolutionist"? Oh, wait, I remember, it's something certain religions need to try to bring evolution down to a faith based beloef rather than science, while failing to realize there are no germists, magnetists, oxygen combustists, dopplerists, relativists, gravitationists, gamists, kineticists or atomicists.
And "higher order animals" isn't really a thing of biology or nature. Just humans delluded with a fantasy understanding of how nature works.

 

[Apostle John]

What the hell's an "evolutionist"? Oh, wait, I remember, it's something certain religions need to try to bring evolution down to a faith based beloef rather than science, while failing to realize there are no germists, magnetists, oxygen combustists, dopplerists, relativists, gravitationists, gamists, kineticists or atomicists.
And "higher order animals" isn't really a thing of biology or nature. Just humans delluded with a fantasy understanding of how nature works.

Come on, look things up, the suffix -ist just means a person who does, makes, or practices. It means nothing other than attributes a label to someone. Also, I never said higher order animals was what you assumed it to be. For info, it’s a term used in taxonomy, a branch of biology.

 

[Soandso]

Come on, look things up, the suffix -ist just means a person who does, makes, or practices. It means nothing other than attributes a label to someone. Also, I never said higher order animals was what you assumed it to be. For info, it’s a term used in taxonomy, a branch of biology.

Spoken like a true gravitationalist

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Come on, look things up, the suffix -ist just means a person who does, makes, or practices. It means nothing other than attributes a label to someone. Also, I never said higher order animals was what you assumed it to be. For info, it’s a term used in taxonomy, a branch of biology.

We don't do, make or practice evolution. No more than we make or pracgice gravity.
And it is your constant use of higher order that shows your aren't even on the same page that we are.

 

[Apostle John]

Spoken like a true gravitationalist

We don't do, make or practice evolution. No more than we make or pracgice gravity.
And it is your constant use of higher order that shows your aren't even on the same page that we are.

My Goodness I don’t want to (or ever will thank God) gravitate towards you or your way of thinking.

 

[Soandso]

My Goodness I don’t want to (or ever will thank God) gravitate towards you or your way of thinking.

Was a joke, but yeesh - everyone's a critic

 

[Apostle John]

Was a joke, but yeesh - everyone's a critic

No I was being deadly serious with no offence intended.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No I was being deadly serious with no offence intended.

Thats on you. But I'm glad I grew up, wisened up, amd learnes what the world (especially science) really is instead of cintinuing to letting the Church mislead me.

 

[Apostle John]

Thats on you. But I'm glad I grew up, wisened up, amd learnes what the world (especially science) really is instead of cintinuing to letting the Church mislead me.

What church was that? I don’t believe it’s possible for a good, Christian, Bible believing Church to mislead anyone.
I fondly remember the few Christians who tried but were unable to guide me to Christianity. Instead I was conditioned by science and was therefore totally lost before God spoke to me and lifted me out of this delusion.

Back to topic, I’ve seen accounts of young boys being forced to dress in girls clothes and they had identity issues because of it growing up.