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I don't care what your particular ideology is on economics...it has no bearing on this issue. But for the record, I consider libertarianism to be worse than conservatism, because libertarians try to raise self-interest and narcissism as a virtue; while conservatives recognize social obligations....they just fail to apply them on economic issues....preferring social darwinism instead.
We weren't told, because that Fox station didn't tell anyone they had a secret witness! I did as much checking as I could, and that story they claim was published on Feb.27 was not mentioned on their site until the middle of March. So maybe "we weren't told" because right wing media didn't bother to tell anyone. Or maybe this Fox affiliate is LYING! Apparently this is the same anonymous witness who only gave his first name - "John" to the station and gave an unverified testimony that he witnessed part of the incident. The first time we became aware of this secret, anonymous witness was about four days ago. This is how a Charlston Examiner post described the breaking story 4 days ago: Fox Tampa breaks silence on Trayvon shooting witness. And, we were already discussing this story back on page 4 of this thread, and that heading says:"Published : Friday, 23 Mar 2012, 5:47 PM EDT," not Feb 27. on the My Fox page. So, either Fox Orlando or Fox Tampa, or whoever originated the story....they seem to be passing it back and forth like a ping pong ball...is lying, or they sat on the story and didn't say anything because they didn't trust the credibility of their witness, or they just ignored it while the local police were maintaining the cone of silence around the shooting incident. But don't blame the mainstream media for ignoring it! No one else had any access to it, and we still don't know if it is a real witness account, or something made up by a news organization that is already showing itself using deception to try to alter the narrative of events.
This is the story based on the anonymous leak from the Police Dept., which Fox Orlando claims to have interviewed later. And when we were first alerted to this witness on page 4, it was a report dated March 23, not Feb.27. For whatever reasons, the Fox Orlando station didn't get a chance to talk to the anonymous police source until about a week ago. It doesn't seem like anyone took this story as much more than hearsay, and that may end up being all it's about. The Sanford Police and Mayor's Office seem to be doing a lot of spinning now to cover up the lack of doing a proper investigation on the night of the shooting; this witness story may be just another part of that campaign to divert attention from the important issues surrounding the case.
This is a key piece of information. I had been blaming the cops for not doing their job. Evidently, they were held back by someone from the prosecutor's office.
I couldn't find it because all they had on Feb.27 was the report of an anonymous witness. They never reported talking to this source until a week ago. Why was there such a long delay? Why should the national media mention that first story when it was nothing more than the report of an anonymous tip until they claimed to have talked to the witness themselves about three weeks later? And where was the conservative media on this witness story until about a week ago? They are johnny-come-latelys now and claiming that the evil liberal media was suppressing the story, when they never picked it up either.
Isn't is a little convenient how these anonymous witnesses keep popping up now, after Police revealed nothing for weeks? And, even if there are actual reasons to believe George Zimmerman's account of that night, they failed to collect crucial evidence that could verify that account. They just took his word on it as they ran the toxicology tests on the dead victim's corpse.
I feel the love.....this is high praise indeed!
There were three, but they don't show up on his record because the cases were closed, and charges weren't filed against him:
YOu said in post 117: "They interview the same man that the police did. Here is the link:", and they may give the appearance that they heard it first hand, but don't actually say it:
I suggest you pay a little better attention to my post and realize that I didn't point it at any one on this thread, and that I did not commit said complaint. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the word 'if'. It makes that part of my post conditional, which means it may or not be true. That means that I have not rushed to judgement and see more than one explanation for events which are disputed. Better luck with future posts.
No, he was not an Hispanic! His father was white -- hence the name Zimmerman, and his mother was Latina....I haven't noticed anything that mentions her origins if that's important, and it could be, as Latinos from the upper classes in most Latin American nations are white, while the lower classes have more of the mix of native and black ancestry. According to his friends, he could speak Spanish, but did so rarely, and most of his friends were Anglos. That name and coming from a relatively privileged background, and that would be enough to make him an honorary white man for all intents and purposes. I kind of doubt he was subjected much to racial profiling.
