Trump and QAnon?

[Colt]

And?

This is one guy. He was foolish. In no way does this guy's testimony affect the testimony of others who gave intel about trump and his associates.

Manifort lied to the FBI. Flynn lied to the FBI. Of course trump pardoned his boy Flynn, so he didn't have to be held accountable. And Flynn is still out there exploiting the gullibility of trump supporters with conspiracy theories. Disgraceful. It's as if the more corrupt you are the more trump likes you.

Your guy invented the fake dossier used to corrupt the FISA court. Of course, you don't care, we do and will continue to expose it.

 

[F1fan]

Your guy invented the fake dossier used to corrupt the FISA court. Of course, you don't care, we do and will continue to expose it.

I don't have any guys. Wrong again.

The Steele Dossier began as a Republican opposition to trump. After he won the nomination the DNC took over the research into trump's background. The Dossier was leaked as raw intel, in case you didn't remember. It was not a formal report. It wasn't mean to be published.

And yes the FISA courts did rely on the FBI to present adequate evidence for warrants. There is some debate about what is adequate, and if evidence is reliable. No doubt that in today's world where there is more technology available to discover crimes law enforcement has pushed the limits to investigate. As we know Carter Page was surveilled and he kept insisting he wasn't up to anything illegal. What we don't know is what trump and his associates were in contact with so many Russians in the year before the election in 2016. There were 116, if I remember right, contacts between Russians and trump associates in the year before the election, and for what purpose? trump denied any business deals. He lied about a business deal in Moscow, so if that ws all it was the why did trump lie about it?

Something is up. And We the people have a right to know what our executive is involved with, especially a huge adversary of the USA.

 

[metis]

Cohen didn't go to jail because of "Russan collusion".

I didn't say nor imply that he did, so all you've done is to invent a strawman.

Its all political, if you could see soberly beyond your hatred of Trump then you would realize it NEVER was about a sincere belief that somehow the Russians got Trump elected. It was about undermining Trump once elected. Sour grapes! You lost and couldn't get over it!

Maybe if you kept your head instead of spouting the above then you might see things differently. However, the above kind of disingenuous behavior is pretty much your m.o. as I've repeatedly seen, and it's rather sickening frankly.

I don't hate anyone, but Trump's repeated dishonest and traitorous behavior I do hate. And if you actually had researched Trump's long history as a con man, you might actually think differently. But it's again quite obvious that "ignorance is bliss", so why should you actually do the homework, right?

I'd rather deal with people who don't so quickly fly off the handle and actually do try to deal with reality.

 

[metis]

Your guy invented the fake dossier used to corrupt the FISA court.

That's actually not true if you'd check it out. Steele was reporting what he was told but couldn't himself verify. However, there were things that turned out not to have happened that were in his report.

 

[metis]

I don't have any guys. Wrong again.

The Steele Dossier began as a Republican opposition to trump. After he won the nomination the DNC took over the research into trump's background. The Dossier was leaked as raw intel, in case you didn't remember. It was not a formal report. It wasn't mean to be published.

And yes the FISA courts did rely on the FBI to present adequate evidence for warrants. There is some debate about what is adequate, and if evidence is reliable. No doubt that in today's world where there is more technology available to discover crimes law enforcement has pushed the limits to investigate. As we know Carter Page was surveilled and he kept insisting he wasn't up to anything illegal. What we don't know is what trump and his associates were in contact with so many Russians in the year before the election in 2016. There were 116, if I remember right, contacts between Russians and trump associates in the year before the election, and for what purpose? trump denied any business deals. He lied about a business deal in Moscow, so if that ws all it was the why did trump lie about it?

Something is up. And We the people have a right to know what our executive is involved with, especially a huge adversary of the USA.

Ah, you beat me to da punch.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

He raped a 13 yar old girl! 13 and under is considered pedophilia, but your weird attempt to minimize it is noted.

Well, it is a border case. It depends on how you understand the terms. But I will grant you that I didn't know that a 13 year old was involved.

 

[Kooky]

Its all political, if you could see soberly beyond your hatred of Trump then you would realize it NEVER was about a sincere belief that somehow the Russians got Trump elected. It was about undermining Trump once elected. Sour grapes! You lost and couldn't get over it!

Cohen didn't go to jail because of "Russan collusion".

This is why Cohen went to jail:

"Between 2012 and 2016, COHEN concealed more than $4 million in personal income from the Internal Revenue Service, avoiding more than $1.3 million in income tax. COHEN also made false statements to a federally insured financial institution to obtain a $500,000 home equity loan. Finally, in 2016, COHEN made or caused two separate payments to women to ensure that they did not publicly disclose their alleged affairs with a presidential candidate in advance of the election. In one instance, COHEN caused American Media, Inc. (“AMI”), which was identified in previous court filings as “Corporation-1,” to make a $150,000 payment to one woman; in the other, COHEN made a $130,000 payment to another woman through an LLC he incorporated for the purpose of making the payment. COHEN was reimbursed for the latter payment in monthly installments disguised as payments for legal services performed pursuant to a retainer, when in fact no such retainer existed. COHEN made or caused both of these payments in order to influence the 2016 election and did so in coordination with one or more members of the campaign."

Operative who worked on Steele dossier arrested as part of Trump-era DOJ investigation



Operative who worked on Steele dossier arrested as part of Trump-era DOJ investigation



----->"The indictment charges that Danchenko told agents he hadn't used any information from a public relations executive, a longtime Clinton supporter with Democratic party ties, for his reports when he in fact had."

"The indictment suggests — but doesn’t actually assert — that the person, identified as PR-Executive 1 in the court filing, might have been a source for the dossier's most salacious allegation — an encounter between Trump and prostitutes in the presidential suite of Moscow's Ritz Carlton Hotel in 2013. The court filing notes the executive stayed at the hotel and took a tour of the presidential suite in June of 2016 days before Steele's report on the topic."

"Danchenko is also charged with making misleading comments about receiving an anonymous phone call that he believed was from a prominent Russian-American businessman. "Danchenko never received such a phone call," the indictment said."

The women demanded money; they were paid but then wanted more. Better to settle even if innocent. Attorneys advise clients to do this all the time. Trump was recently in NY.

Your guy invented the fake dossier used to corrupt the FISA court. Of course, you don't care, we do and will continue to expose it.

What does any of this have to do with Qanon?

 

[Colt]

I didn't say nor imply that he did, so all you've done is to invent a strawman.

Maybe if you kept your head instead of spouting the above then you might see things differently. However, the above kind of disingenuous behavior is pretty much your m.o. as I've repeatedly seen, and it's rather sickening frankly.

I don't hate anyone, but Trump's repeated dishonest and traitorous behavior I do hate. And if you actually had researched Trump's long history as a con man, you might actually think differently. But it's again quite obvious that "ignorance is bliss", so why should you actually do the homework, right?

I'd rather deal with people who don't so quickly fly off the handle and actually do try to deal with reality.

You perceive fly off the handle, you are overly sensitive. I’m aware of Trumps history, that’s no excuse for abusing our FISA courts to try to frame him. Anyone who voted for the Clintons has no credibility when complaining about people’s character.

 

[Colt]

What does any of this have to do with Qanon?

Complaining about QAnon is cover for real conspiracies. That’s the point.

 

[Colt]

Well, it is a border case. It depends on how you understand the terms. But I will grant you that I didn't know that a 13 year old was involved.

Lots of underage girls were involved but what’s astonishing is that this was common knowledge for years. Epstein was tried once, convicted and given an in home sentence. It’s like Harvey Weinstein or Bill Clinton. All known sexual predators but given a pass by their supporters.

 

[anna.]

Lots of underage girls were involved but what’s astonishing is that this was common knowledge for years. Epstein was tried once, convicted and given an in home sentence. It’s like Harvey Weinstein or Bill Clinton. All known sexual predators but given a pass by their supporters.

Like Trump's been given a pass by his supporters.

 

[F1fan]

The women demanded money; they were paid but then wanted more. Better to settle even if innocent. Attorneys advise clients to do this all the time. Trump was recently in NY.

Cohen went to prison for the fraudulent scheme, and trump was a co-conspirator. Conspiracy to commit a crime IS a crime itself.

The fraud case was so strong that Cohen recognized he couldn't win, and plead. And he is cooperating with the state investigating trump.

Just today the NY attorney general is asking trump to sit down for a deposition about real estate fraud. And an appeals court denied trump's request to keep his documents of Jan 6 from being released to congress. He's being investigated by the Georgia AG office for his election tampering, and specific crimes have been cited. Then guy is in trouble, and just can't seem to stay out of trouble.

 

[F1fan]

Lots of underage girls were involved but what’s astonishing is that this was common knowledge for years. Epstein was tried once, convicted and given an in home sentence. It’s like Harvey Weinstein or Bill Clinton. All known sexual predators but given a pass by their supporters.

Clinton is dubious, he had an affair. However you do have trump and his 26 accusations of sexual assault against him. And Matt Gaetz, whose time seems destined to run out pretty soon.

 

[Kooky]

Complaining about QAnon is cover for real conspiracies. That’s the point.

How about you create your own thread then, instead of spamming this thread with off topic nonsense that has no relation to its intended purpose of people trying to educate themselves on Qanon?

 

[Colt]

Cohen went to prison for the fraudulent scheme, and trump was a co-conspirator. Conspiracy to commit a crime IS a crime itself.

The fraud case was so strong that Cohen recognized he couldn't win, and plead. And he is cooperating with the state investigating trump.

Just today the NY attorney general is asking trump to sit down for a deposition about real estate fraud. And an appeals court denied trump's request to keep his documents of Jan 6 from being released to congress. He's being investigated by the Georgia AG office for his election tampering, and specific crimes have been cited. Then guy is in trouble, and just can't seem to stay out of trouble.

Clinton is dubious, he had an affair. However you do have trump and his 26 accusations of sexual assault against him. And Matt Gaetz, whose time seems destined to run out pretty soon.

Clinton had "an affair"?

1. His first reported sexual assault was Eileen Wellstone (1969) at Oxford. Her family decided not to press charges for their own reasons.
2. Anonymous female student at Yale University (1972)
3. Anonymous female student at the University of Arkansas (1974)
4. Anonymous female lawyer (1977)
5. Juanita Broaddrick (1978) Allegation: Rape
6. Carolyn Moffet (1979)
7. Elizabeth Ward (1983)
8. Sally Perdue (1983)
9. Paula Jones (1991)

The affairs were consensual including the little girl he was having sex with just outside the Oval Office.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Clinton had "an affair"?

1. His first reported sexual assault was Eileen Wellstone (1969) at Oxford. Her family decided not to press charges for their own reasons.
2. Anonymous female student at Yale University (1972)
3. Anonymous female student at the University of Arkansas (1974)
4. Anonymous female lawyer (1977)
5. Juanita Broaddrick (1978) Allegation: Rape
6. Carolyn Moffet (1979)
7. Elizabeth Ward (1983)
8. Sally Perdue (1983)
9. Paula Jones (1991)

The affairs were consensual including the little girl he was having sex with just outside the Oval Office.

The only Democrat in the world is vile. Good that he is the only Democrat!
BTW who is the little girl?

 

[metis]

Since when do two wrongs, if they did indeed occur, make a right?

BTW, just for the record, I wanted Bill Clinton to resign, much like Franken and Conyers did.

 

[Colt]

The only Democrat in the world is vile. Good that he is the only Democrat!
BTW who is the little girl?

Monica Lowinski.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Monica Lowinski.

Okay. What is your definition of a little girl?

 

[Colt]

Okay. What is your definition of a little girl?

An employer who is 50 and an employee that is 22, in the workplace. If it were Trump, then people would understand it with precise clarity!