Trump and QAnon?

[Colt]

Basically the Left uses QAnon’s silly conspiracy claims as a cover to discredit accusations of real conspiracies.

For the longest time accusations of pedophile sex rings were dismissed as fringe kook stuff! See Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial underway right now!

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Basically the Left uses QAnon’s silly conspiracy claims as a cover to discredit accusations of real conspiracies.

For the longest time accusations of pedophile sex rings were dismissed as fringe kook stuff! See Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial underway right now!

And the Right uses them to get votes and advance their careers. See Matt Gaetz.

 

[Yerda]

Basically the Left uses QAnon’s silly conspiracy claims as a cover to discredit accusations of real conspiracies.

For the longest time accusations of pedophile sex rings were dismissed as fringe kook stuff! See Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial underway right now!

In actual fact most developed countries have had scandals involving powerful people involved in child abuse. The fact is that the only people interested in holding these animals to account were on the left and the right always close ranks around their own.

 

[Shadow11]

I believe its foreign interference to divide the USA its already almost brought the country down. Best espionage program a country ever came up with.Just which country is doing it and will they be successful bringing the USA down we will see. I can't believe Americans are that stupid.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Basically the Left uses QAnon’s silly conspiracy claims as a cover to discredit accusations of real conspiracies.

For the longest time accusations of pedophile sex rings were dismissed as fringe kook stuff! See Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial underway right now!

And where Trump made use of some services perhaps?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Basically the Left uses QAnon’s silly conspiracy claims as a cover to discredit accusations of real conspiracies.

For the longest time accusations of pedophile sex rings were dismissed as fringe kook stuff! See Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial underway right now!

As far as I can tell the Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial is not about pedophile sex.

 

[Colt]

In actual fact most developed countries have had scandals involving powerful people involved in child abuse. The fact is that the only people interested in holding these animals to account were on the left and the right always close ranks around their own.

In the U.S that seems to be the opposite. Since the #metoo m

And where Trump made use of some services perhaps?

Trump banned Jeffrey Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after sex criminal hit on member’s daughter, book claims


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/tru...tein-from-mar-a-lago-for-hitting-on-girl.html

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

In the U.S that seems to be the opposite. Since the #metoo m


Trump banned Jeffrey Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after sex criminal hit on member’s daughter, book claims


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/tru...tein-from-mar-a-lago-for-hitting-on-girl.html

That signifies nothing as such.

 

[Colt]

As far as I can tell the Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial is not about pedophile sex.

Are you French? Ghislaine Maxwell cultivated underage girls for Epstein to have sex with.

 

[Colt]

That signifies nothing as such.

None of these girls in the trial made an accusation against Trump. Outside of the trial Prince Andrew and a few other high-profile names came up but not Trump. Epstein was in the Clinton White House 17 times according to records.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Are you French? Ghislaine Maxwell cultivated underage girls for Epstein to have sex with.

Underage doesn't necessarily mean prepubescent.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

None of these girls in the trial made an accusation against Trump. Outside of the trial Prince Andrew and a few other high-profile names came up but not Trump. Epstein was in the Clinton White House 17 times according to records.

Yes, that Trump is not involved means that Trump is not involved. That is all.
As for Clinton, he is the only Democrat in the world, so your example holds.

 

[Colt]

Underage doesn't necessarily mean prepubescent.

He raped a 13 yar old girl! 13 and under is considered pedophilia, but your weird attempt to minimize it is noted.

 

[metis]

Did you know that a much, much larger group of otherwise sane people advanced the "Russian collusion" conspiracy that was used to attempt overturn an election? QAnon is nothing compared to the forces behind the RC hoax!

Mueller had decided not to pursue the issue of "Russian collusion" with his impeachment of Trump, but we do know that some of his staff definitely did.

This is symptomatic of what Trump also did with his shady business dealings, whereas he behaved like a Mob don so as to let others take the "fall" if they got caught. Just ask Michael Cohen about that, whereas he went to prison because of Trump.

 

[Colt]

Mueller had decided not to pursue the issue of "Russian collusion" with his impeachment of Trump, but we do know that some of his staff definitely did.

This is symptomatic of what Trump also did with his shady business dealings, whereas he behaved like a Mob don so as to let others take the "fall" if they got caught. Just ask Michael Cohen about that, whereas he went to prison because of Trump.

Its all political, if you could see soberly beyond your hatred of Trump then you would realize it NEVER was about a sincere belief that somehow the Russians got Trump elected. It was about undermining Trump once elected. Sour grapes! You lost and couldn't get over it!

Cohen didn't go to jail because of "Russan collusion".

This is why Cohen went to jail:

"Between 2012 and 2016, COHEN concealed more than $4 million in personal income from the Internal Revenue Service, avoiding more than $1.3 million in income tax. COHEN also made false statements to a federally insured financial institution to obtain a $500,000 home equity loan. Finally, in 2016, COHEN made or caused two separate payments to women to ensure that they did not publicly disclose their alleged affairs with a presidential candidate in advance of the election. In one instance, COHEN caused American Media, Inc. (“AMI”), which was identified in previous court filings as “Corporation-1,” to make a $150,000 payment to one woman; in the other, COHEN made a $130,000 payment to another woman through an LLC he incorporated for the purpose of making the payment. COHEN was reimbursed for the latter payment in monthly installments disguised as payments for legal services performed pursuant to a retainer, when in fact no such retainer existed. COHEN made or caused both of these payments in order to influence the 2016 election and did so in coordination with one or more members of the campaign."

 

[F1fan]

Biden won fair and square. By comparison Biden got far more votes than Clinton because she was uninspiring to her base. That’s why Trump was able to win 2016.

Good for you.

The Russian collusion obsession has eaten into the brains of the Left.

Strange zombie imagery. No. Democrats and some Republicans have been very disturbed by trump's cheating and corruption. It's disappointing that so many conservatives have lowered their ethical standards to nominate and elect a guy like trump. We are seeing the decline of ethics among republicans all over the USA as a result of trump's influence and acceptance by conservative voters. This is why Qanon has so much popularity and influence today.

If the government wanted to they could find you guilty of some crime. There have been NO arrests of Trump associates for “Russian collusion”.

Well Manifort was arrested and convicted. And the trump DOJ certainly had no interest in investigating the executive and trump associates. They refused to follow through with the investigation of the Mueller report. With a new head of the DOJ perhaps we will find out more of what happened.

However Clinton associates are being arrested for advancing the Russian collusion conspiracy.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Unless you think the guy who lied to the FBI was a Clinton associate.

Christopher Steele has admitted meeting with Russian intelligence agents which served to effect the election in Clinton’s favor, but you don’t care because he was working to advance your political interests.

Steele was hired to do investigation into what trump was up to in Russia. As we have found out over time is that trump lied about a business deal in Moscow, among other things. And there has been questions about why trump was so soft with Putin. trump took the word of Putin over our own intelligence agencies over the issue of election interference. That was unacceptable of a president.

 

[F1fan]

Its all political, if you could see soberly beyond your hatred of Trump then you would realize it NEVER was about a sincere belief that somehow the Russians got Trump elected. It was about undermining Trump once elected. Sour grapes! You lost and couldn't get over it!

Cohen didn't go to jail because of "Russan collusion".

This is why Cohen went to jail:

"Between 2012 and 2016, COHEN concealed more than $4 million in personal income from the Internal Revenue Service, avoiding more than $1.3 million in income tax. COHEN also made false statements to a federally insured financial institution to obtain a $500,000 home equity loan. Finally, in 2016, COHEN made or caused two separate payments to women to ensure that they did not publicly disclose their alleged affairs with a presidential candidate in advance of the election. In one instance, COHEN caused American Media, Inc. (“AMI”), which was identified in previous court filings as “Corporation-1,” to make a $150,000 payment to one woman; in the other, COHEN made a $130,000 payment to another woman through an LLC he incorporated for the purpose of making the payment. COHEN was reimbursed for the latter payment in monthly installments disguised as payments for legal services performed pursuant to a retainer, when in fact no such retainer existed. COHEN made or caused both of these payments in order to influence the 2016 election and did so in coordination with one or more members of the campaign."

As a co-conspirator with trump. Cohen made these payments on behalf of trump to silence women that trump had affairs with. trump was very clever to not be directly doing these crimes, but hired others to do it for him. Cohen has been cooperating with the NY attorney's office about crimes trump has committed. trump has been avoiding New York city and now lives in Florida, presumably to avoid investigators.

 

[Colt]

However Clinton associates are being arrested for advancing the Russian collusion conspiracy.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Unless you think the guy who lied to the FBI was a Clinton associate.

Operative who worked on Steele dossier arrested as part of Trump-era DOJ investigation



Operative who worked on Steele dossier arrested as part of Trump-era DOJ investigation



----->"The indictment charges that Danchenko told agents he hadn't used any information from a public relations executive, a longtime Clinton supporter with Democratic party ties, for his reports when he in fact had."

"The indictment suggests — but doesn’t actually assert — that the person, identified as PR-Executive 1 in the court filing, might have been a source for the dossier's most salacious allegation — an encounter between Trump and prostitutes in the presidential suite of Moscow's Ritz Carlton Hotel in 2013. The court filing notes the executive stayed at the hotel and took a tour of the presidential suite in June of 2016 days before Steele's report on the topic."

"Danchenko is also charged with making misleading comments about receiving an anonymous phone call that he believed was from a prominent Russian-American businessman. "Danchenko never received such a phone call," the indictment said."

 

[F1fan]

Operative who worked on Steele dossier arrested as part of Trump-era DOJ investigation



Operative who worked on Steele dossier arrested as part of Trump-era DOJ investigation



----->"The indictment charges that Danchenko told agents he hadn't used any information from a public relations executive, a longtime Clinton supporter with Democratic party ties, for his reports when he in fact had."

"The indictment suggests — but doesn’t actually assert — that the person, identified as PR-Executive 1 in the court filing, might have been a source for the dossier's most salacious allegation — an encounter between Trump and prostitutes in the presidential suite of Moscow's Ritz Carlton Hotel in 2013. The court filing notes the executive stayed at the hotel and took a tour of the presidential suite in June of 2016 days before Steele's report on the topic."

"Danchenko is also charged with making misleading comments about receiving an anonymous phone call that he believed was from a prominent Russian-American businessman. "Danchenko never received such a phone call," the indictment said."

And?

This is one guy. He was foolish. In no way does this guy's testimony affect the testimony of others who gave intel about trump and his associates.

Manifort lied to the FBI. Flynn lied to the FBI. Of course trump pardoned his boy Flynn, so he didn't have to be held accountable. And Flynn is still out there exploiting the gullibility of trump supporters with conspiracy theories. Disgraceful. It's as if the more corrupt you are the more trump likes you.

 

[Colt]

As a co-conspirator with trump. Cohen made these payments on behalf of trump to silence women that trump had affairs with. trump was very clever to not be directly doing these crimes, but hired others to do it for him. Cohen has been cooperating with the NY attorney's office about crimes trump has committed. trump has been avoiding New York city and now lives in Florida, presumably to avoid investigators.

The women demanded money; they were paid but then wanted more. Better to settle even if innocent. Attorneys advise clients to do this all the time. Trump was recently in NY.