YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
I wouldn't bet the farm on that just yet, tytlyf. He certainly stirred up a hornet's next with his comments about Mexicans. I predict he will weather this idea too.
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Trump Calls for Ban on All Muslims Entering US
- Thread starter Sunstone
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Well, we haven't gotten to the mustache-growing contest yet.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The thing that really hurt Trump with that, and the GOP as a whole, is they are trying to win the Mexican vote because they realized they need it to get back into the White House. A bunch of angry white guys is not nearly enough to win an election, and that's the majority of Trump supporters. If Trump's numbers don't drop off by the end of the month, I predict the Republicans doing some hardcore mud slinging against him, and some real hard pandering to their religious base and appealing to their sense of morality (I see Trump's remarks about his daughter taking center stage in that one).
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
That would be a reasonable stance to take, but I've learned so far in this election cycle is not to be too steered by reason.
I simply don't believe that there is enough support for Hillary and I don't see the Republicans coming after The Trumpenator. Definitely a weird election this go around. The entitled consummate liar vs. the loudmouthed buffoon. (I let you decide who is who.)
Sapiens
Polymathematician
He will weather but that doesn't get him through the general election. There he's toast and with Trump at the top of the ticket, so is the rest of the GOP.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It is reasonable to use reason. Michele Bachmann, even after the tricky reporters asking her about her husband running the country because of what the Bible says, would have a better chance at the women's vote than the very sexist Trump who has, time and time again, mentioned that he thinks a woman's value is in her sex appeal, and she really needs to use it. It's a given he has lost the Hispanic and Latin American vote, which is a crucial vote for the GOP to win in order to be a contender to the throne. Because he worships money and has enough arrogance to power the planet if it could be harnessed as a fuel source, it's a good question to ask if he can even gain solid support from the religious right, the primary demograph of the GOP. And the way he mocked Kovaleski makes me really hope he looses the vote of anyone who is even remotely related to the health care field (including those as far down as me with a Bachelor's in psychology). He has the angry white guy vote in the bag, but he has to contend against the fact that liberals show up to vote for presidential elections.
And, of course, the bigots usually do well early in the race, such as Santorum, who lost his momentum when it came time get serious and put someone on the ballot who isn't going to hand the democrats the presidential election on a silver platter (the biggest obstacle that Trump is facing).
The phony liberal news on the radio at the top of the hour just said Trump said he wants "A Total Ban on Muslims".
No, Trump didn't say that.
Trump said exactly this, exact quote, that he wants a:
"total and complete shutdown of Muslims ENTERING the United States UNTIL OUR COUNTRY'S REPRESENTATIVES CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON."
He is absolutely right. It is more than obvious Obama cannot, and will not, and refuses to figure out what is going on. And in fact, his main concern is that ShivaFan is going to take his Smith and Wesson Model 10 .38 Special Police Revolver circa 1960s and shoot the first Muslim he sees shopping for a cantaloupe in the local Safeway grocery store in a hate crime.
Let me see - Jews are violently attacked ten fold in hate crimes than any Muslim, who is doing that? There is no wave of any such attacks on Muslims in the US nor has there been since 911 and it is amazing the how peaceful Americans have been in this regard, but I think Americans are going to agree with Trump that the current worms in the Obama administration are like a tape worm and need to be removed and either cannot figure out what is going on or know it but are guilty of malfeasance.
The leader of this terrorist cell, which does have international connections, it was her, that ugly faced Pakistani female terrorist who was the leader of the cell and not the guy.
I say the mother was a supporter. The banking transactions will make that more clear.
No more of these coming into our country until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on and how much are they personally contributing to these failures and betrayals of the American people. I want to see some of them go to jail.
And then, Jeb Bush and Rubio - Jeb the loser saying Trump is "unhinged", that loser is at 4% and dropping and now will drop even more by saying this crap, and Rubio saying it is "offensive" that third place candidate is going to now drop to fourth, and mark my words Trump will go up 4 more points this week to take even a more commanding lead. The Bushbots lose, Trump wins, the establishment lose, Trump wins.
Update: And let me add an afterthought - even if Trump did say this, and he didn't, the attack won't work, his poll numbers will still go up higher.
No, Trump didn't say that.
Trump said exactly this, exact quote, that he wants a:
"total and complete shutdown of Muslims ENTERING the United States UNTIL OUR COUNTRY'S REPRESENTATIVES CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON."
He is absolutely right. It is more than obvious Obama cannot, and will not, and refuses to figure out what is going on. And in fact, his main concern is that ShivaFan is going to take his Smith and Wesson Model 10 .38 Special Police Revolver circa 1960s and shoot the first Muslim he sees shopping for a cantaloupe in the local Safeway grocery store in a hate crime.
Let me see - Jews are violently attacked ten fold in hate crimes than any Muslim, who is doing that? There is no wave of any such attacks on Muslims in the US nor has there been since 911 and it is amazing the how peaceful Americans have been in this regard, but I think Americans are going to agree with Trump that the current worms in the Obama administration are like a tape worm and need to be removed and either cannot figure out what is going on or know it but are guilty of malfeasance.
The leader of this terrorist cell, which does have international connections, it was her, that ugly faced Pakistani female terrorist who was the leader of the cell and not the guy.
I say the mother was a supporter. The banking transactions will make that more clear.
No more of these coming into our country until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on and how much are they personally contributing to these failures and betrayals of the American people. I want to see some of them go to jail.
And then, Jeb Bush and Rubio - Jeb the loser saying Trump is "unhinged", that loser is at 4% and dropping and now will drop even more by saying this crap, and Rubio saying it is "offensive" that third place candidate is going to now drop to fourth, and mark my words Trump will go up 4 more points this week to take even a more commanding lead. The Bushbots lose, Trump wins, the establishment lose, Trump wins.
Update: And let me add an afterthought - even if Trump did say this, and he didn't, the attack won't work, his poll numbers will still go up higher.
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Silly.
This "media" that is leading this lie and attack on Trump isn't much relevant anymore, that is why this attack will fail again. Trump will go up higher still, and yes Obama is a failure and trying to distract from his failures. The old school media is rapidly becoming just minor players and wailing about with a pompus but delusional elitism, are now howling the expected "gun control" crap in terms that try to attack those who are speaking out about this threat as if they are the "problem", "refusing to do anything about it" - but we all know what this really means is, we should not even be allowed to say what just happened. Don't say Radical Islam, not now before the election, because they know their failures will not bode well in this election, that is why they demand we immediately be distracted and look in the direction other than the attackers, look over there, not here, it is exactly the opposite of doing something about it but going back to waiting for your turn next to be attacked.
And by the way miss Carly and her cry for Carly bots is finished. They cannot win by attacking the Republican front runner, and the establishment has about as much of a chance of taking down Trump with this nonsense than the Pope converting Farook-a-ji.
This "media" that is leading this lie and attack on Trump isn't much relevant anymore, that is why this attack will fail again. Trump will go up higher still, and yes Obama is a failure and trying to distract from his failures. The old school media is rapidly becoming just minor players and wailing about with a pompus but delusional elitism, are now howling the expected "gun control" crap in terms that try to attack those who are speaking out about this threat as if they are the "problem", "refusing to do anything about it" - but we all know what this really means is, we should not even be allowed to say what just happened. Don't say Radical Islam, not now before the election, because they know their failures will not bode well in this election, that is why they demand we immediately be distracted and look in the direction other than the attackers, look over there, not here, it is exactly the opposite of doing something about it but going back to waiting for your turn next to be attacked.
And by the way miss Carly and her cry for Carly bots is finished. They cannot win by attacking the Republican front runner, and the establishment has about as much of a chance of taking down Trump with this nonsense than the Pope converting Farook-a-ji.
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
Oh ok, that's a relief. So it's not a total ban on muslims entering the US, it's a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the US. You're right, that is completely different.
Who's being silly now?
No. It is a complete shutdown of Muslims ENTERING the United States UNTIL OUR COUNTRY'S REPRESENTATIVES CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON.
America will agree, you watch the polls. There is nothing clever in this attack on Trump, nor anything clever about word smithing what he said. You can keep it up all you want, it only makes it obvious and my side will gain in numbers. But thanks, Americans will lose even more trust that anyone on the Obama side of the moon have any answers other than blame Americans and "stay the course".
Sure. Stay the course. How ESTABLISHMENT!
America will agree, you watch the polls. There is nothing clever in this attack on Trump, nor anything clever about word smithing what he said. You can keep it up all you want, it only makes it obvious and my side will gain in numbers. But thanks, Americans will lose even more trust that anyone on the Obama side of the moon have any answers other than blame Americans and "stay the course".
Sure. Stay the course. How ESTABLISHMENT!
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
So are you predicting that muslims will indeed be banned from entering the US for any period of time?
Because even after the constitutional hurdles that action would need to overcome, I think it would be logistically unenforceable.
Schicklgruber roughly means "Doom-Digger". I'm not sure if one should count that as a verb or a noun, though. Flip a coin maybe?
Freethinker, I predict anyone attacking Trump, be it Jeb or Hillary, by twisting words, will lose.
No there will not be a ban on muslims. There will be immigration control and a temporary halt on anyone muslim coming from 6 terrorist hotbeds. However, non-muslims being persecuted by jihadees will be allowed to come - these are the actual refugees but they will also need to be vetted.
As far as muslim "refugees", if they are males of military age, they will be told they are drafted to go to the war front in there own country and fight ISIS. Sick of these cowards, males of military age didn't get to be cowards and come as refugees from France before the German Nazis - they had to go back and fight.
And what is this permanent citizen crap for these muslim males? No, nothing permanent. The muslim women and children can stay in a protected zone in Jordan or Libya, then go back after ISIS is dead. The men, put in a uniform and sent back to fight, no Playboys and free apartments here. Tell these cowards to go back and fight.
No there will not be a ban on muslims. There will be immigration control and a temporary halt on anyone muslim coming from 6 terrorist hotbeds. However, non-muslims being persecuted by jihadees will be allowed to come - these are the actual refugees but they will also need to be vetted.
As far as muslim "refugees", if they are males of military age, they will be told they are drafted to go to the war front in there own country and fight ISIS. Sick of these cowards, males of military age didn't get to be cowards and come as refugees from France before the German Nazis - they had to go back and fight.
And what is this permanent citizen crap for these muslim males? No, nothing permanent. The muslim women and children can stay in a protected zone in Jordan or Libya, then go back after ISIS is dead. The men, put in a uniform and sent back to fight, no Playboys and free apartments here. Tell these cowards to go back and fight.
Using this logic, why should anyone be in this country? How old was your dad/grandfather/first-generation immigrant whatever their actual relation to you?
OHHH, NOW IT MAKES SENSE SINCE YOU PUT IT IN ALL CAPS. (not) Maybe if you bold it I'll change my mind. (not)
It's fear-mongering at its best, and makes absolutely no sense.
Do you realise that there are over 20 million "likely voters" currently supporting Trump?
Sigh...
Tom
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
I do not support The Trumpenator, but I just don't see serious opposition to Trump. It's like he is coated in fricken Teflon. It's not going to be pretty when he starts to really hammer on Hill Hill, the vulnerable.