Trump is losing the debate acting like a raving lunatic

[F1fan]

Citizens who use government to ban the
building apartment buildings is indeed
government. This is what should change.
Opposition to higher density housing has
inexorable deleterious consequences, eg,
more land taken from farming & natural
spaces, inhibition of pubic transport, higher
prices, higher utility consumption.

So if the majority of citizens don't want apatment buildings built in their community the government should force it on them?

Liberals too often see raising taxes on the
"wealthy" is the solution to all problems.

But my point (as a liberal) is adjusting the burden of taxation to those who can better afford it. Rates get changed routinely. It just seems an unfair taxation policy that the middle class and poor stuggle to accumulate wealth as the rich accumulate wealth quite readily, and to record levels.

How about first correcting many of the
problems they (& conservatives) are
causing, eh.

That can be a priority as well.

 

[Revoltingest]

So if the majority of citizens don't want apatment buildings built in their community the government should force it on them?

That's a mischievous way to phrase.....
Government should ease off on dysfunctional regulation.

Would you argue that it's wrong for government to
force people to stop discriminating against blacks
in housing, when it's the will of the people to keep
them out of neighborhoods?

But my point (as a liberal) is adjusting the burden of taxation to those who can better afford it. Rates get changed routinely. It just seems an unfair taxation policy that the middle class and poor stuggle to accumulate wealth as the rich accumulate wealth quite readily, and to record levels.

That can be a priority as well.

I prefer to try solutions that achiever
greater justice at lower (or no) cost.

 

[Estro Felino]

Are you asserting that women should always make different decisions from men when it comes to making decisions of war and peace?

No... I mean that you expect women to be for peace...but the debate was very clear.
Trump said that he would end the conflict in 24 hours, with diplomacy.
Harris said that the war must continue indefinitely...until Putin (I add the evil alpha male who likes women) is defeated.
No matter how many Ukrainian soldiers die.

So war is woman, not man

 

[Argentbear]

No... she and I mean that you expect women to be for peace...but the debate was very clear.
Trump said that he would end the conflict in 24 hours, with diplomacy.

Trump says a lot of delusional things

 

[Estro Felino]

Trump says a lot of delusional things

Speaking of delusional things, our Minister of Defense said: nobody has ever thought that Ukraine could defeat Russia.

 

[sun rise]

I've often heard liberals call for a return
to 92% (an historic high). They always
fail to understand that this rate could
only exist with the massive & numerous
deductions (what they call "loopholes")
that avoided economic collapse.

I want all loopholes to be eliminated and all income from any source taxed the same. Give me those two and a reasonable progressive tax (zero at the bottom, TBD at the top) and I'd be happy. Buffet's comment about paying a lower rate than his secretary comes to mind and it's time to fix that.

 

[Revoltingest]

No... I mean that you expect women to be for peace...but the debate was very clear.
Trump said that he would end the conflict in 24 hours, with diplomacy.

Is that as certain as his making Mexico pay for the wall he built?
Oh...wait....no wall...no $ from Mexico.
Or that he'd end the US war in Afghanistan?
Oh...wait....he didn't.
He spent 4 years violating this campaign promise.

It's easy to make grandiose claims.
Reminds me of the memoir published by the famous
actress, Marylin Streep.
Her 1st marriage was to a farmer. But she divorced him
because he worked such long hours that he had no time
for "intimate relations".
Her 2nd marriage was to a politician. But she divorced
him over his incessant lying & cheating.
Her 3rd marriage was very brief...only one day. It was
to Donald Trump. He spent their entire wedding night
telling her how great it was going to be.

 

[sun rise]

Speaking of delusional things, our Minister of Defense said: nobody has ever thought that Ukraine could defeat Russia.

I'm reminded of Sun Tzu's quote “Perfection in war lies in so sapping your opponents will that he surrenders without fighting.”

— Sun Tzu

 

[sun rise]

I favor lower tax rates with no deductions for expenses.

Uh oh. We're too close to agreeing on this point.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And you think people are out of their minds for saying he's a mental case who isn't doing well? Surely you jest.

How is that being a mental case? He knows his audience will eat his **** straight from his ***, and he knows his base hates immigrants.
Probably best to draw comparisons to Hitler because what he's doing is that serious and that dangerous. His cult already tried to overthrow the election for him, he knows they will believe anything amd Fox, Newsmax, etc, will follow suit amd reinforce it, with the algorithms kf Facebook, X and Youtube promoting it because it gets clicks amd watch time. Trump is probably aware of all this. He's definitely not the sharpest or brightest crayon in the box, but he has a long established history of using manipulation and deciet to get what he wants.

 

[Revoltingest]

I want all loopholes to be eliminated and all income from any source taxed the same.

At 92%?
Including income that is nothing more
than what's caused by government
devaluing the dollar?

Give me those two and a reasonable progressive tax (zero at the bottom, TBD at the top) and I'd be happy.

Let me guess....
You'd personally fall in a very low income tax bracket.

Buffet's comment about paying a lower rate than his secretary comes to mind and it's time to fix that.

If only you understood why that is,
we could have some productive
discussion.

 

[Revoltingest]

Uh oh. We're too close to agreeing on this point.

I'm sure your "low" is my "high".

 

[Estro Felino]

Is that as certain as his making Mexico pay for the wall he built?
Oh...wait....no wall...no $ from Mexico.
Or that he'd end the US war in Afghanistan?
Oh...wait....he didn't.
He spent 4 years violating this campaign promise.

It's easy to make grandiose claims.
Reminds me of the memoir published by the famous
actress, Marylin Streep.
Her 1st marriage was to a farmer. But she divorced him
because he worked such long hours that he had no time
for "intimate relations".
Her 2nd marriage was to a politician. But she divorced
him over his incessant lying & cheating.
Her 3rd marriage was very brief...only one day. It was
to Donald Trump. He spent their entire wedding night
telling her how great it was going to be.

Facts are louder than words.
During the 4 years of Trump, the incredibly high political stability throughout Europe and throughout the Mediterranean was evident.
There was a hope for Libya to be reconstructed, back then.
Trump promoted peace and de-escalation of tension.

I am 100% sure that the warmongers had suicidal thoughts during the 4 years of Trump....because their thirst for war was not satiated.

 

[sun rise]

No... I mean that you expect women to be for peace...but the debate was very clear.
Trump said that he would end the conflict in 24 hours, with diplomacy.
Harris said that the war must continue indefinitely...until Putin (I add the evil alpha male who likes women) is defeated.
No matter how many Ukrainian soldiers die.

So war is woman, not man

Trump lied. There is no way he could do that.

 

[Estro Felino]

Trump lied. There is no way he could do that.

In order to do that, you need to be for peace, first.
Is Kamala Harris for peace?

 

[sun rise]

I'm sure your "low" is my "high".

We agree on getting rid of gimmicks and probably could agree on rates that both of us could live with. That puts us ahead, way ahead, of Congress.

 

[Revoltingest]

How is that being a mental case? He knows his audience will eat his **** straight from his ***, and he knows his base hates immigrants.
Probably best to draw comparisons to Hitler because what he's doing is that serious and that dangerous. His cult already tried to overthrow the election for him, he knows they will believe anything amd Fox, Newsmax, etc, will follow suit amd reinforce it, with the algorithms kf Facebook, X and Youtube promoting it because it gets clicks amd watch time. Trump is probably aware of all this. He's definitely not the sharpest or brightest crayon in the box, but he has a long established history of using manipulation and deciet to get what he wants.

All the Magas I talk too say the same thing....
- Trump is the victim of media who hate him, & lie about him.
- Every wrongdoing claimed about Trump is false.
- Because Dems pushed the bogus Russian collusion charge,
every thing they say against him is false.

Thus they're immune to any news casting him in a bad light.
They're either unaware of it, or they dismiss it as hateful lies.

 

[Estro Felino]

I'm reminded of Sun Tzu's quote “Perfection in war lies in so sapping your opponents will that he surrenders without fighting.”

— Sun Tzu

Nice...I am a simpler person. I rely on "Make love, not war"

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So if the majority of citizens don't want apatment buildings built in their community the government should force it on them?

It's got to be done, especially in places like the Central Valley here where growth is explosive and urban sprawl is terribly bad and out of control.

 

[Revoltingest]

We agree on getting rid of gimmicks and probably could agree on rates that both of us could live with. That puts us ahead, way ahead, of Congress.

What's your opinion on taxing capital gains
that are due to devaluation of the dollar,
rather than any real increase in value?