Trump ordered to pay nearly 355 million in NY fraud case.

[Spice]

That was Fox News, but whatever.
How about The New York Times? Is that liberal enough for you? Biden Verbally Fumbles, Twice, During Campaign Trip in Florida (Published 2022)

Or listen to his own words on Newsweek's site: Video of Joe Biden saying his son "lost his life in Iraq" viewed 500k times

The New York Times won't let me read their article without paying to view. That won't happen.

The Newsweek video was a short clip. If that was it, then yes he mislead his audience. However, that clip does not disqualify the very proven fact, the man blames his son's death on his Iraqi service and explains this connection without hesitantation. Do you have the video in its entirety to show he did not in fact circle back to explain how service personnel oftentimes bring war home with them to still "die from it" in the end?

 

[Laniakea]

Projection. You are trying to misunderstand him on purpose. That Biden blames his son's service and the extreme chemicals that he was exposed to as the source of his cancer does make his claim valid.

I can show you examples of him saying it all day long. He's said it on multiple occasions on camera, so it's dishonest to deny it.

 

[Spice]

That was a lot of words admitting I was correct.
A shorter version would have been better though.

Your comprehension of the written word needs more practice. But I'll bow to your effort.
Namaste

 

[metis]

Whether Laniakea bothers to look it up, he is just following a rightwing logic chopping tactic. The claim is that the US is technically a federal republic rather than a true democracy. Technically, the people don't vote for presidents. They vote for electors to choose a president. This rhetorical tactic has become very popular among the MAGA crowd.

And even having the Electoral College is all fine & dandy with them as long as they elect Republicans.

 

[Subduction Zone]

z

I can show you examples of him saying it all day long. He's said it on multiple occasions on camera, so it's dishonest to deny it.

Just keep working on that reading comprehension. You will get it sooner or later.

 

[Copernicus]

And even having the Electoral College is all fine & dandy with them as long as they elect Republicans.

The electoral college is golden for conservatives nowadays, because Democratic voters tend to concentrate in densely populated urban areas. Every state has Democrat-friendly urban areas, but most states have more voters living outside of those areas. The states with very large urban populations tend to be blue states. IOW, the electoral college is a structural advantage for the Republican Party. IIRC, no recent election in which a minority president won the electoral college involved a Democrat.

The Democratic Party benefited more when it had a lock on the South, which had historically favored their party until the 1964 Civil Rights Act shifted that bloc of states to the Republican party. None of this should be surprising, because the Electoral College system was originally part of the compromise between free and slave states that was needed for ratification of the Constitution. Republicans were disfavored in the South because it had incorporated abolitionists into its political base of voters. After the Civil War, freed slaves tended to vote Republican.

 

[Pogo]

The New York Times won't let me read their article without paying to view. That won't happen.

The Newsweek video was a short clip. If that was it, then yes he mislead his audience. However, that clip does not disqualify the very proven fact, the man blames his son's death on his Iraqi service and explains this connection without hesitantation. Do you have the video in its entirety to show he did not in fact circle back to explain how service personnel oftentimes bring war home with them to still "die from it" in the end?

The relevant part.

In defending his record on inflation, Mr. Biden was trying to blame rising costs on President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia for his invasion of Ukraine, which has roiled international energy markets. It’s a point that he makes regularly in public speeches, but this time he mixed up his geography and history.
“Inflation is a worldwide problem right now because of a war in Iraq and the impact on oil and what Russia is doing,” Mr. Biden told a crowd during a speech at O.B. Johnson Park in Hallandale Beach, Fla., before heading to Miami Gardens for an evening campaign rally with Democratic candidates. He quickly caught his own mistake. “Excuse me,” he said, “the war in Ukraine.”

But as he tried to explain how he mixed up the two wars, he told the audience, “I think of Iraq because that’s where my son died.” In fact, Beau Biden, a military lawyer in the Delaware Army National Guard, served for a year in Iraq. He returned home in 2009 and died of brain cancer in the United States in 2015.
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Mr. Biden, who has made the same mistake before, once again sought to correct himself. “Because, he died,” he said, apparently referring to his belief that Beau’s cancer could have been caused by his service in Iraq, where he may have been exposed to toxic burn pits.

 

[Spice]

The relevant part.

In defending his record on inflation, Mr. Biden was trying to blame rising costs on President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia for his invasion of Ukraine, which has roiled international energy markets. It’s a point that he makes regularly in public speeches, but this time he mixed up his geography and history.
“Inflation is a worldwide problem right now because of a war in Iraq and the impact on oil and what Russia is doing,” Mr. Biden told a crowd during a speech at O.B. Johnson Park in Hallandale Beach, Fla., before heading to Miami Gardens for an evening campaign rally with Democratic candidates. He quickly caught his own mistake. “Excuse me,” he said, “the war in Ukraine.”

But as he tried to explain how he mixed up the two wars, he told the audience, “I think of Iraq because that’s where my son died.” In fact, Beau Biden, a military lawyer in the Delaware Army National Guard, served for a year in Iraq. He returned home in 2009 and died of brain cancer in the United States in 2015.
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Mr. Biden, who has made the same mistake before, once again sought to correct himself. “Because, he died,” he said, apparently referring to his belief that Beau’s cancer could have been caused by his service in Iraq, where he may have been exposed to toxic burn pits.

I remember reading/hearing that he only ran for the Presidency because his grandson asked him to. His family thought he could hold the middle line for the country, gain time for us to settle back down. One term "should" have been enough. Unfortunately, a man that should retire, most likely wants to retire, may have to do another term as a self-sacrifice because he does have the experience and knowledge to keep the gate guarded.

NOW, my dear Republicans better get their act together! I want to see a proper contest between party platforms in '28, if the Lord be willing to leave me here that long. The young people need to see responsible opponents working it out!!!!

 

[Copernicus]

Mr. Biden, who has made the same mistake before, once again sought to correct himself. “Because, he died,” he said, apparently referring to his belief that Beau’s cancer could have been caused by his service in Iraq, where he may have been exposed to toxic burn pits.

Yes, that seems to be why he has said on more than one occasion that Beau Biden died in Iraq. He blames the cancer on his son's exposure to burn pits in Iraq, and he has ever since been a crusader on behalf of those who have sought medical benefits from their exposure to the burn pits while serving in Iraq.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I remember reading/hearing that he only ran for the Presidency because his grandson asked him to. His family thought he could hold the middle line for the country, gain time for us to settle back down. One term "should" have been enough. Unfortunately, a man that should retire, most likely wants to retire, may have to do another term as a self-sacrifice because he does have the experience and knowledge to keep the gate guarded.

NOW, my dear Republicans better get their act together! I want to see a proper contest between party platforms in '28, if the Lord be willing to leave me here that long. The young people need to see responsible opponents working it out!!!!

The Republicans are truly trying their best to get Biden reelected. Just this week the Arizona State Supreme Court just did a huge favor for the Democrats and though the Republicans had a chance to fix it they just nodded in agreement.

 

[Spice]

The Republicans are truly trying their best to get Biden reelected. Just this week the Arizona State Supreme Court just did a huge favor for the Democrats and though the Republicans had a chance to fix it they just nodded in agreement.

And Trump helped by flipping his stance, again, saying AZ went too far.

 

[Subduction Zone]

And Trump helped by flipping his stance, again, saying AZ went too far.

Yep. He does not seem to understand that the pro-choice people will not trust him after he and the Republicans abused their power and stacked the USSC. One day Trump brags about how "he" overturned Rowe v Wade and the next day he tries to tone it down a bit. He is just making his own core begin to see what kind of person he is. He does not really mean anything he says. He supported anti-abortion moves just to get elected.

 

[Spice]

Yep. He does not seem to understand that the pro-choice people will not trust him after he and the Republicans abused their power and stacked the USSC. One day Trump brags about how "he" overturned Rowe v Wade and the next day he tries to tone it down a bit. He is just making his own core begin to see what kind of person he is. He does not really mean anything he says. He supported anti-abortion moves just to get elected.

But far too few keep up with as little as daily news headlines. If it doesn't come through on their fb feed, they don't know anything about it. And believe me, I see the stuff they "share" and it's sad.

One thing that has given me hope though is the lack of sharing in comparison to the last two campaigns. They're uncommonly quiet.

 

[Laniakea]

z

Just keep working on that reading comprehension. You will get it sooner or later.

Video evidence doesn't even require reading. No wonder you didn't hear what biden said.
But thanks for showing how insincere your request for evidence was. It will be noted for future discussions.

 

[Laniakea]

The Republicans are truly trying their best to get Biden reelected. Just this week the Arizona State Supreme Court just did a huge favor for the Democrats and though the Republicans had a chance to fix it they just nodded in agreement.

Total bans on abortion is a favor to democrats? Then maybe you'd like to see abortion banned elsewhere as well?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Video evidence doesn't even require reading. No wonder you didn't hear what biden said.
But thanks for showing how insincere your request for evidence was. It will be noted for future discussions.

That only makes it worse for you. Your error was politely explained to you and your only response has been more falsehoods. I do not think that you even understand the concept of evidence. You as much as admitted that in the past.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Total bans on abortion is a favor to democrats? Then maybe you'd like to see abortion banned elsewhere as well?

Yes, think about it. Sadly your next sentence shows that you didn't think at all.

 

[Laniakea]

That only makes it worse for you. Your error was politely explained to you and your only response has been more falsehoods. I do not think that you even understand the concept of evidence. You as much as admitted that in the past.

Hearing biden saying the words is plenty of evidence that he said those words.
Claiming he didn't say what he clearly said is just more evidence of your own denial of evidence when it's placed in front of you.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Hearing biden saying the words is plenty of evidence that he said those words.
Claiming he didn't say what he clearly said is just more evidence of your own denial of evidence when it's placed in front of you.

Only if you are using the Ostrich Defense as you have. Hiding your head in the sand does not change the meaning of his words.

If you did not understand the explanation you should ask questions.

 

[Laniakea]

Only if you are using the Ostrich Defense as you have. Hiding your head in the sand does not change the meaning of his words.

If you did not understand the explanation you should ask questions.

Ok, here's a question (which you won't answer). Why are you using the ostrich defense to prevent yourself from hearing biden saying exactly what I told you he said?