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Trump ordered to pay nearly 355 million in NY fraud case.

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
How? By getting Congress to pass an "Infrastructure" bill that was actually a "New Green Deal" bill that couldn't get passed when it was accurately named, so biden had to lie to the public to get it passed?
So Biden has some skill in branding. Good for him.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
It obviously wasn't about infrastructure. A trillion dollars clearly didn't fix things.
Of course it was about infrastructure. The infrastructure of the US is still a huge problem. But at least Biden started to work on it. Trump never dealt with the problem to my knowledge.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Of course it was about infrastructure. The infrastructure of the US is still a huge problem. But at least Biden started to work on it. Trump never dealt with the problem to my knowledge.
He did, but democrats opposed it, of course.
Trump presented an infrastructure plan to Congress in February 2018, with $200 billion in federal funding and projected it would result in $1.5 trillion of investments from the private sector. Democrats opposed this plan because of its emphasis on state and local funding and private investments.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
We've also seen how he does as a president. Clearly, people liked what he did and want to vote for him again. They endured Biden long enough to realize that voting for biden because "he's not Trump" wasn't such a good idea last time around.
What he did as President was ride on the Obama economic coattails, make a global laughing stock of U.S. Democracy, instill possibilities of success in some of the world's most dangerous leaders, increase division of the American people, reignite the public voice of American Nazism and the KKK, inspire extremism in the far-right parties around the world, exemplify political slight-of-hand, drive GOOD Republicans into the private sector or early retirement, and scare the Bejesys out of most of the reasonable world concerning immigration, nuclear armaments, drugs, viruses, economic downturn, while disrespecting multiple populations, including those in the U.S. with his all-focus on MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. That was his TV shows theme song, and his personal mantra.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Okay. So what? He did not die In England either. or France. Nor even Chai-Nah.
Did Biden lie that his son died in those places? Or does he keep telling people that his son died in Iraq?
I realize you're just trying to make excuses for biden, but I was hoping you could come up with something more intelligent than to defend his lying to the public.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
What he did as President was ride on the Obama economic coattails, make a global laughing stock of U.S. Democracy, instill possibilities of success in some of the world's most dangerous leaders, increase division of the American people, reignite the public voice of American Nazism and the KKK, inspire extremism in the far-right parties around the world, exemplify political slight-of-hand, drive GOOD Republicans into the private sector or early retirement, and scare the Bejesys out of most of the reasonable world concerning immigration, nuclear armaments, drugs, viruses, economic downturn, while disrespecting multiple populations, including those in the U.S. with his all-focus on MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. That was his TV shows theme song, and his personal mantra.
The idea that the USA is a democracy is what makes us a laughing stock.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
Biden tries to insert himself into every situation as if he "knows". Claiming he took the train over that bridge was a lie, just as he lied to grieving parents who lost their son/daughter in the military that he "knows" what it's like because he lost his own son in Iraq (another lie).
He's obviously willing to lie about anything and everything if he either believe no one will notice, or that those who would vote for him will make excuses for it.
He had a son who served in Iraq. He had a son to die. He understood the parents positionS, and apparently someone else misunderstood what he was saying and blew it up. There's a lot of that going around.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
He did, but democrats opposed it, of course.
Trump presented an infrastructure plan to Congress in February 2018, with $200 billion in federal funding and projected it would result in $1.5 trillion of investments from the private sector. Democrats opposed this plan because of its emphasis on state and local funding and private investments.
"Private Investments" with Trump involved is a red flag in and of itself.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Did Biden lie that his son died in those places? Or does he keep telling people that his son died in Iraq?
I realize you're just trying to make excuses for biden, but I was hoping you could come up with something more intelligent than to defend his lying to the public.
I have never heard him make that claim.

Oh, I see your problem. You trusted dishonest sources that did not tell the whole story. Beau Biden served in Iraq:

"According to his father, Beau was diagnosed with ankylosing spondylitis in 2001 after returning from service in Kosovo.[48] He was later diagnosed with brain cancer, which his father believes was possibly a consequence of exposure to military burn pits in Iraq.["



Could Biden be wrong about what caused Beau's cancer? Yes, he could easily be wrong. Does that make his claim a lie? Not even close.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
When they act as a group as they always do, it's "Democrats".

"Private Investments" with Trump involved is a red flag in and of itself.
And be sure not to miss this part:
"Lawmakers from both sides of the aisle also questioned where the money would come from."

Trump rarely managed to get any consensus from his own party, much less the opposition. He failed. When it came to making deals and getting things done, he was a miserable failure.

He got some tax cuts for billionaires but little else, and those tax cuts did not help the crumbling infrastructure in anyway, nor did they help deal with the deficit.
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
We've also seen how he does as a president. Clearly, people liked what he did and want to vote for him again. They endured Biden long enough to realize that voting for biden because "he's not Trump" wasn't such a good idea last time around.

Yes, we've seen how he does as president. A one term twice impeached president, who engineered a riotous takeover of the Capitol Building in an effort to overturn his election loss and then stole boxloads of classified government documents before leaving office. The election loss of both the popular and electoral votes was not even close. He was soundly rejected for a second term. And this is before we begin to count the never-ending cascade of scandals throughout his term, the turnover in personnel in his administration, his love of dictators running countries hostile to our nation, his infantile temper tantrums, and the countless lies that he has been caught in. But you find the guy entertaining.

Biden is still using "I'm not Trump" as a major selling point for returning him to office. The sad thing is that it is stale, but still a good selling point when people are reminded of his last term in office. Unfortunately, American voters are not known for having great memories, but they do seem to realize that Donald Trump, with the help of the Republican Party, gave us the current Supreme Court. So there are a few other issues out there to make the musty old "I'm not Trump" line smell a little fresher.
 
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