Trump rally attracts tens of thousands of people in support.

[Trailblazer]

How does one propose we do this when we know reinfection occurs?

Ignore science.

 

[Valjean]

It's truly disheartening to learn that there are so many selfish unpatriotic bigots in this country.

The patriots; the tribalists, are the problem. They're selfish and anti social bigots. It's the cosmopolitans who are concerned with the big picture.

 

[SomeRandom]

We're talking about a group that's very staunchly anti-science.

Oh,....

 

[Valjean]

Many enjoyed five finger discounts at the encouragement of a number of leftists.

Link?
Why do you think it was leftists? Isn't it the Left which is principled and honest, and the Right that's authoritarian and believes the end justifies the means?

 

[Valjean]

That was the approach during the Spanish flu pandemic. Masks were being touted as a patriotic act to encourage wearing them.

There is some sense in light that people ought to bond together to fight a threat to the country in unison.

I'm right wing and I wear a mask in public buildings even though I support herd immunity.

I think its largely due to the politicization of the virus which I think contributed to the issue.

What does supporting herd immunity mean? Wouldn't it entail infecting as many people as possible to create a large immune population?

 

[Watchmen]

They were mostly wearing masks. Trump supporters mostly don't. That makes a huge and massive difference.

Fascinating. I’ve seen countless reports of left wing protestors with no masks (unless they’re hurling obscenities at police).

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Fascinating. I’ve seen countless reports of left wing protestors with no masks (unless they’re hurling obscenities at police).

See the sea of masks? That makes a difference.

 

[The Hammer]

The patriots; the tribalists, are the problem. They're selfish and anti social bigots. It's the cosmopolitans who are concerned with the big picture.

And they always want to blamen the Pluralistic Cosmopolitans in the end as everything crumbles around them.

 

[shunyadragon]

That's quite a number for one rally and its hearting to know that so many attended in a show of solidarity.

Million MAGA March, Trump rally today: Thousands rally in DC; updates

Unfortunately there were 10 arrests made, but it was otherwise peaceful.

I do think there were questionable instances where voter fraud occurred but without adequate proof, its hard to confirm with certainty.

Still there might be protest votes in December so there's hope for a Trump win but not certain.

The rally included large number of organized extreme right groups that Trump refused to criticize, because 'they like me,' and of course they all enthusiastically supported Trump there hero, and the promised savior by QAnon.

 

[shunyadragon]

There's no penalty for faithless electors in Pennsylvania. It easily could go as a protest vote in Trumps favor in that state.

Yes there is a penalty for a 'Faithless Elector' it is unconstitutional.

Faithless elector - Wikipedia.

State laws may impose a fine or imprisonment on an elector who fails to vote according to the statewide or district popular vote, force an elector to vote for the candidate they pledged to vote, or disqualify an elector who violates their pledge and provide a replacement elector.

 

[Valjean]

So... There is a difference. It can be managed. It doesn't have to be reckless, and if handled intelligently, deaths can be minimized.

Imagine 2 parents have kids. The end goal is for the kids to grow up (or in this case, for the population to achieve herd immunity). One parent says, "You're getting expensive. You're just going to have to grow up now!" And he kicks the kid on to the streets. Meanwhile, the other parent spends the time and money to raise the child and eases him into adulthood (like we would do with using masks and social distancing in waiting for a vaccine).

They both become adults (and achieve herd immunity). One is a functioning normal adult who winds up relatively healthy through the struggles of life, while the other grows up being scarred for life (with unnecessary covid deaths).

Herd immunity isn't an action, it's a state of being. Becoming an adult isn't an action, it's also a state of being. Let's be smart about the way we get there.

Herd immunity is a statistical correlation.

 

[The Hammer]

The problem is in achieving that particular number .

What creates "herd immunity": is it how many people get infected (what's an acceptable number?), the amount of people who die from it (what's an acceptable number?), the amount of people hospitalized with serious illness (what level of preventable suffering is ok?). Maybe it's the amount of people who are incurring life long issues due to complications? (What's the acceptable amount here?).

Edit: come on, I'm only asking for an explanation as to what I should tell my dying wife. She's just gasping to hear your replies. Maybe the feeding tube will force some answers down her throat, right? It's just one life, never mind the lasting impacts.

 

[suncowiam]

That's quite a number for one rally and its hearting to know that so many attended in a show of solidarity.

Million MAGA March, Trump rally today: Thousands rally in DC; updates

Unfortunately there were 10 arrests made, but it was otherwise peaceful.

I do think there were questionable instances where voter fraud occurred but without adequate proof, its hard to confirm with certainty.

Still there might be protest votes in December so there's hope for a Trump win but not certain.

The irony of this rally is to protest election fraud, but now they support fraudulent claims.

 

[The Hammer]

The irony of this rally is to protest election fraud, but now they support fraudulent claims.

Don't forget government lockdowns are socialism.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yes there is a penalty for a 'Faithless Elector' it is unconstitutional.

Faithless elector - Wikipedia.

State laws may impose a fine or imprisonment on an elector who fails to vote according to the statewide or district popular vote, force an elector to vote for the candidate they pledged to vote, or disqualify an elector who violates their pledge and provide a replacement elector.

Not all states penalize. There is no such penalty in Pennsylvania.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Don't forget government lockdowns are socialism.

They could be if this is rather interesting conspiracy theory proves correct....

Coronavirus Shutdown: The End of Globalization and Planned Obsolescence – Enter Multipolarity

What does this mean?

The Electorate can vote against Biden in protest by casting their vote for Trump in states that allow it without penalty.

 

[The Hammer]

They could be if this is rather interesting conspiracy theory proves correct....

Coronavirus Shutdown: The End of Globalization and Planned Obsolescence – Enter Multipolarity






The Electorate can vote against Biden in protest by casting their vote for Trump in states that allow it without penalty.

I'm still waiting for what you'd like to say to my dying wife. You seem to be having trouble with this subject and keep moving on? What's wrong, do you not like confronting strong emotions? Sit, join me for a spell, and listen to a tale of tragedy.

 

[Subduction Zone]

They could be if this is rather interesting conspiracy theory proves correct....

Coronavirus Shutdown: The End of Globalization and Planned Obsolescence – Enter Multipolarity






The Electorate can vote against Biden in protest by casting their vote for Trump in states that allow it without penalty.

Why would any member of the EC, chosen by Democrats, vote for Trump? Do you think that they are as idiotic as Trump is?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Why would any member of the EC, chosen by Democrats, vote for Trump? Do you think that they are as idiotic as Trump is?

Admittedly its unlikely, but it is possible.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm still waiting for what you'd like to say to my dying wife. You seem to be having trouble with this subject and keep moving on? What's wrong, do you not like confronting strong emotions? Sit, join me for a spell, and listen to a tale of tragedy.

Sadly deniers of reality won't own up to it, until it slaps them in the face. Far too often we have heard of deniers of the pandemic that became victims of it themselves. And I truly hope that your wife pulls through. My brother's family in another state all got it. His wife had a very tough time with it, but they all pulled through in the end. I am hoping the same for you and yours.