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Trump trial proves to be political after all

Altfish

Veteran Member
He sends the "campaign" bearing his name to troll the jury outside the courthouse just as the jury was deliberating, and then biden himself grandstands after the verdict. How do you identify that as biden "stayed out of it"?
Biden did nothing of the sort; Trump haters may have turned up, but Biden didn't organise it.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
I am embarrassed to be American right now. Almost as much as when Bill Clinton was in office and there was the little blue dress and he was sticking cigars in Monica's twat in the Oval Office and I lived in Germany, but not quite. Almost though.

Is this really the best we can do? Is this the gift the 2 party system has given us? How can we change things?
You were more embarrassed by a man fooling around with a consensual participant who initially stretched the truth when caught, but eventually accepted responsibility and consequences both for the act and the denial?

This man, Trump, has lived his entire adult life, and his professional life in business and in elected office, in constant dishonesty. He is definitely the indisputable example of an old saying from my youth:
It's one thing to lie to try to save your @$$; it's quite another thing to lie to make yourself look an @$$.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
He sends the "campaign" bearing his name to troll the jury outside the courthouse just as the jury was deliberating, and then biden himself grandstands after the verdict. How do you identify that as biden "stayed out of it"?
No trolling the jury. They were completely unaware of who the reporters were engaged with while they were in deliberation.

There once was a time where all candidates had to be given equal time in the media. I miss those days I situations such as this. Trump used the courthouse steps everyday for his political stump. One day - ONE brief moment when it could not interfere with what was going on inside since both sides had rested their cases, the opposing campaign spoke with the press core at the same venue.

No comparison.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
You were more embarrassed by a man fooling around with a consensual participant who initially stretched the truth when caught, but eventually accepted responsibility and consequences both for the act and the denial?

This man, Trump, has lived his entire adult life, and his professional life in business and in elected office, in constant dishonesty. He is definitely the indisputable example of an old saying from my youth:
It's one thing to lie to try to save your @$$; it's quite another thing to lie to make yourself look an @$$.
I was quite embarrassed by Bill Clinton's shenanigans in office, and I am also embarrassed by our current President and ex President.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You clearly don't know what it means to make a court trial political.
I'll let you go and learn before you write any more.
You seem to have a different opinion than I do. Trump lied about the trial from the start. He tried to use it to bolster his campaign. How was that not making it political?

Your TDS unfortunately makes your projection epic in this topic.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I was quite embarrassed by Bill Clinton's shenanigans in office, and I am also embarrassed by our current President and ex President.
I agree about Clinton, I agree about Trump. What has Biden done that is embarrassing? Please note, he has always made minor flubs. That I do not find embarrassing. And he may be a bit too touchy feely for some people, but I do not see any ill intent there. Usually the people that I have known that were too touchy feely were women. When one sees it in a man it can appear to be odd.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I agree about Clinton, I agree about Trump. What has Biden done that is embarrassing? Please note, he has always made minor flubs. That I do not find embarrassing. And he may be a bit too touchy feely for some people, but I do not see any ill intent there. Usually the people that I have known that were too touchy feely were women. When one sees it in a man it can appear to be odd.
Oh I think he is way too old and probably decrepit to be our President. Also, I don't like his flubs or his touchy feely stuff. Not to mention, I don't much care for his politics or the way he seems to make everything political.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Oh I think he is way too old and probably decrepit to be our President. Also, I don't like his flubs or his touchy feely stuff. Not to mention, I don't much care for his politics or the way he seems to make everything political.
Politicians, especially those running for President, tend to make everything political. What bothered me about this thread is the accusation of Democrats making it political when Republicans did that from the start. The Democrats showed great restraint in the matter until near the ends. His flubs may be due to his tendency to stutter. His touch feelieness is offputting to me too, but I do not see anything sexual in it. Trump on the other hand is a born learer. His politics are of course debatable and that is what people should concentrate on. I find his politics to be far more right on than Trump's.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Oh I think he is way too old and probably decrepit to be our President. Also, I don't like his flubs or his touchy feely stuff. Not to mention, I don't much care for his politics or the way he seems to make everything political.
Many times when asked what's good about Biden, the answer usually given is he is better than Trump.

That's sad that that is the most common answer.

That is pretty much saying there's not much good.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Many times when asked what's good about Biden, the answer usually given is he is better than Trump.

That's sad that that is the most common answer.

That is pretty much saying there's not much good.
Biden has started significant programs such as a beginning of an infrastructure revamp.


His anti inflation program appears to be working too.

Trump only tore down earlier works and cut taxes for the rich.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
I agree about Clinton, I agree about Trump. What has Biden done that is embarrassing? Please note, he has always made minor flubs. That I do not find embarrassing. And he may be a bit too touchy feely for some people, but I do not see any ill intent there. Usually the people that I have known that were too touchy feely were women. When one sees it in a man it can appear to be odd.
Now this is creepy -- and notice these photo ops began when she was VERY young.
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Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
They are both terrible options in my opinion and I won't be voting for either one.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
No trolling the jury. They were completely unaware of who the reporters were engaged with while they were in deliberation.

There once was a time where all candidates had to be given equal time in the media. I miss those days I situations such as this. Trump used the courthouse steps everyday for his political stump. One day - ONE brief moment when it could not interfere with what was going on inside since both sides had rested their cases, the opposing campaign spoke with the press core at the same venue.

No comparison.

And why do that--at the courthouses of all places in this entire country--if biden and his people weren't trying to make the court case political?
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Biden has started significant programs such as a beginning of an infrastructure revamp.


His anti inflation program appears to be working too.

Trump only tore down earlier works and cut taxes for the rich.

Riiiiight! The one that was supposed to already be "paid for", but turned out to add $386 billion to the national debt every year for the next 10 years. Way to go Joe!
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Riiiiight! The one that was supposed to already be "paid for", but turned out to add $386 billion to the national debt every year for the next 10 years. Way to go Joe!
Where did you get that one from? And yes, it will probably add to debt, taxes may have to be raised to cover it. So what? It has to be done. This is something that Republicans can never understand unless it is military spending.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
And why do that--at the courthouses of all places in this entire country--if biden and his people weren't trying to make the court case political?
That has been the focus of all media for weeks, and Trump's team plus other GOPs had been using the press gathering all along. Didn't you read about the revolving courtroom support? The ones who were not under the gag order?
 
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