mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
English is not my first language and I am not good at Google searching.
You seem to know your news source and you are from the US, so I taught you could do it.
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Trump trial proves to be political after all
- Thread starter Laniakea
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English is not my first language and I am not good at Google searching.
You seem to know your news source and you are from the US, so I taught you could do it.
McBell
Admiral Obvious
At this point it seems to me that you merely like typing words in the little box and clicking the little blue "Post reply" button.
Laniakea
Not of this world
Isn't that what you have been trying to teach me to do?
Spice
StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
LOL You're disagreeing that it's a fact that Donald Trump is a convicted felon?
You seriously need a source for that?
Enough with the games already. This is juvenile.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
What else do you call it when a person willfully refuses to address the facts?When you can't intelligently refute someone's claim, call them names.
Good job!
I call it what it is: willful ignorance. Looks like that poster does as well.
McBell
Admiral Obvious
desperate desperation almost always ends up that way.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I am not so sure about that. That is akin to saying "If elected I will prosecute all criminals" was that promise even made? Without context it is hard to judge. Trump was no prosecuted because he is a Republican. He was prosecuted because he was guilty.
I think you've found a world-class curse there. To wish Trump on someone is to lay a truly hideous and loathsome wish on them.
McBell
Admiral Obvious
Some more truth for you to flat out ignore:
Trump's case was tried in New York, where the statute of limitations is five years for all but the most serious felonies and two years for misdemeanors. The charge against Trump, falsifying business records in the first degree, is a Class E felony. That means the statute of limitations is five years.
Trump's lawyers moved to dismiss the case in its early stages based on the statute of limitations, but Merchan rejected the argument. In a pretrial decision, the judge said the pandemic extension stretched out the deadline for the prosecution by one year and 47 days.
"In other words, this felony prosecution had to be commenced within six years and 47 days from when the crimes were allegedly committed," Merchan wrote.
Trump was charged within days of the potential deadline. The extension "brought the conduct described in the indictment within the prescribed five-year time limit," Merchan wrote.
After conviction, Trump questioned the New York statute of limitations. Here are the facts
Trump and his team have said the statute of limitations may be an issue in appealing his convictions. Here's what we know about the unusual timing.
www.usatoday.com
We Never Know
No Slack
"The charge against Trump, falsifying business records in the first degree, is a Class E felony. That means the statute of limitations is five years."Some more truth for you to flat out ignore:
Trump's case was tried in New York, where the statute of limitations is five years for all but the most serious felonies and two years for misdemeanors. The charge against Trump, falsifying business records in the first degree, is a Class E felony. That means the statute of limitations is five years.Trump's lawyers moved to dismiss the case in its early stages based on the statute of limitations, but Merchan rejected the argument. In a pretrial decision, the judge said the pandemic extension stretched out the deadline for the prosecution by one year and 47 days."In other words, this felony prosecution had to be commenced within six years and 47 days from when the crimes were allegedly committed," Merchan wrote.Trump was charged within days of the potential deadline. The extension "brought the conduct described in the indictment within the prescribed five-year time limit," Merchan wrote.
After conviction, Trump questioned the New York statute of limitations. Here are the facts
Trump and his team have said the statute of limitations may be an issue in appealing his convictions. Here's what we know about the unusual timing.www.usatoday.com
Clarification. Falsification of records itself is a misdemeanor. They bumped it to a class E felony on the grounds it was done to conceal another crime. That crime they said was to interfere with the presidential election.
"Falsifying business records is typically a misdemeanor, but it becomes a felony under New York Law if it was done to commit or conceal another crime. In Trump's case, prosecutors said he falsified records to interfere in the 2016 presidential election by "unlawful means"
After conviction, Trump questioned the New York statute of limitations. Here are the facts
Trump and his team have said the statute of limitations may be an issue in appealing his convictions. Here's what we know about the unusual timing.
www.usatoday.com
We Never Know
No Slack
And this one explains it further...Some more truth for you to flat out ignore:
Trump's case was tried in New York, where the statute of limitations is five years for all but the most serious felonies and two years for misdemeanors. The charge against Trump, falsifying business records in the first degree, is a Class E felony. That means the statute of limitations is five years.Trump's lawyers moved to dismiss the case in its early stages based on the statute of limitations, but Merchan rejected the argument. In a pretrial decision, the judge said the pandemic extension stretched out the deadline for the prosecution by one year and 47 days."In other words, this felony prosecution had to be commenced within six years and 47 days from when the crimes were allegedly committed," Merchan wrote.Trump was charged within days of the potential deadline. The extension "brought the conduct described in the indictment within the prescribed five-year time limit," Merchan wrote.
After conviction, Trump questioned the New York statute of limitations. Here are the facts
Trump and his team have said the statute of limitations may be an issue in appealing his convictions. Here's what we know about the unusual timing.www.usatoday.com
"Falsifying business records in New York State can be a misdemeanor, but prosecutors can bring the charge as a felony if they believe the records were falsified to conceal another crime.
Manhattan district attorney Alvin L. Bragg had suggested that Mr. Trump concealed three potential crimes, although he has not charged him with any of those.
While “hush money” payments are not necessarily illegal prosecutors have suggested three possible crimes since filing the charges against Mr. Trump last year: a federal campaign finance violation, tax fraud and a state election-law crime.
Prosecutors do not need to prove such crimes were committed — only that there was “the intent to commit or conceal” an additional crime."
Why Does Trump Face Felony Charges? Prosecutors Say He Was Hiding Other Crimes.
Donald J. Trump faces 34 felony counts in his Manhattan trial, but none involve the other misconduct that prosecutors say he engaged in.
McBell
Admiral Obvious
My post is an exhaustive explanation as to why the "statute of limitations" claim is nothing more than a big steaming pile of bovine feces.And this one explains it further...
"Falsifying business records in New York State can be a misdemeanor, but prosecutors can bring the charge as a felony if they believe the records were falsified to conceal another crime.
Manhattan district attorney Alvin L. Bragg had suggested that Mr. Trump concealed three potential crimes, although he has not charged him with any of those.
While “hush money” payments are not necessarily illegal prosecutors have suggested three possible crimes since filing the charges against Mr. Trump last year: a federal campaign finance violation, tax fraud and a state election-law crime.
Prosecutors do not need to prove such crimes were committed — only that there was “the intent to commit or conceal” an additional crime."
Why Does Trump Face Felony Charges? Prosecutors Say He Was Hiding Other Crimes.
Donald J. Trump faces 34 felony counts in his Manhattan trial, but none involve the other misconduct that prosecutors say he engaged in.www.nytimes.com
We Never Know
No Slack
Yes. But the statue of limitations on the misdemeanor had expired. They had to say he concealed another crime to bump it to a felony so they could get around that the statute of limitations on the misdemeanor had expired.
Even though he was never charged with any other crime and the prosecutors does not need to prove such crimes were committed — only that there was “the intent to commit or conceal” an additional crime."
Taking all that in.... It does seem and sound kinda shady but I'm not in Braggs head to know what he thinks or why.
McBell
Admiral Obvious
The crimes Trump was convicted of date back more than five years, but they withstood an initial court challenge because of a pandemic-era extension.
Trump was indicted on March 30, 2023, more than six years after the earliest charge in the indictment, which dates to Feb. 14, 2017. That's beyond the five years typically allowed by the statute of limitations, but there's a catch: Former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo extended the time limit to file charges in all criminal cases when courts were disrupted by the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020.
After conviction, Trump questioned the New York statute of limitations. Here are the facts
Trump and his team have said the statute of limitations may be an issue in appealing his convictions. Here's what we know about the unusual timing.
www.usatoday.com
We Never Know
No Slack
That doesn't change the fact that they had to change his charges to a felony to charge him.The crimes Trump was convicted of date back more than five years, but they withstood an initial court challenge because of a pandemic-era extension.Trump was indicted on March 30, 2023, more than six years after the earliest charge in the indictment, which dates to Feb. 14, 2017. That's beyond the five years typically allowed by the statute of limitations, but there's a catch: Former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo extended the time limit to file charges in all criminal cases when courts were disrupted by the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020.After conviction, Trump questioned the New York statute of limitations. Here are the facts
Trump and his team have said the statute of limitations may be an issue in appealing his convictions. Here's what we know about the unusual timing.www.usatoday.com
That way they got the extension on the 5 year statue of limitations of a felony. Without changing the charge to a felony charge, they couldn't charge him.
Heyo
Veteran Member
Which doesn't change the fact that he is guilty of the charges. The only question is, if he can be punished for them.
We Never Know
No Slack
"Which doesn't change the fact that he is guilty of the charges"
You must have replied to the wrong post. I never made that argument.
Laniakea
Not of this world
Did you lose track of your posts already? I was responding to you calling your opinions "facts".