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Truth: either God exists or He don't.

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Unfortunately we see this behavior with people that belong to some of the Christian cults. Not all Christians belong to cults. In fact rather few do. They more than make up for their small numbers with their volume. Those that do belong to such cults tend to be very noisy and very ignorant of their own Bible. They claim that it has things that it does not and deny what it actually says even if one quotes it at times. Rampant racism, homophobia, and xenophobia is often associates with these cults. For example the Westboro Baptist Church is one such cult.
They live in their own little dream world that frequently throws up all over thinking society.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Never mind man too much double talk, can’t tell what you’re trying to say but oh well, to vague and just asked a straight up question.
There was not one iota of double talk there. You made false accusations. I was trying to educate you so that you could see your error.

A question with false accusations in it is never a "straight up question".

Tell me what parts of that post were too difficult for you to understand and I will try to explain more clearly.
 
There was not one iota of double talk there. You made false accusations. I was trying to educate you so that you could see your error.

A question with false accusations in it is never a "straight up question".

Tell me what parts of that post were too difficult for you to understand and I will try to explain more clearly.
Don’t know what you’re talking about brother, asked a simple question but ... nothing but a run around
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I would believe the Quran too, if God didn't warn us about Mohammad. Jesus warned us not to believe anyone who comes as a prophet after Him. He said they will be false prophets teaching the doctrine of Demons.

Mohammad never performed a single miracle to prove that he was a prophet, so that's another this which exposes him as a false prophet. The Bible commands Gods people to stone false prophets
You are in your free right to dislike others for their belief, but i chose not to hate you back for it.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
3 awards may as well be zero of the thousands handed out to Christians and Jews, so it's funny how they represent 1/4 of the worlds population and they only manages to 0.03 of the awards

Islamic countries have never been able to prosper in any way, they restrain people who want to excel in education, technology or
Why do I not fear you if you are so dangeroues :confused:
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
Paul never met Jesus, who had died before Paul was converted.

And those who *knew* Jesus tended to disagree with Paul (as described in Acts).
Your forgot a small but important detail, Jesus rose from the dead and He met Paul on the road to Ameus. there He gave Paul instructions and He gave him the Holy Spirit who spoke through Paul from that time on.

It would be helpful if you did a bit of research before you make unfounded comments. Also, nothing in Acts disagrees with anything Paul said, so please qualify your comment with a bit of evidence
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Your forgot a small but important detail, Jesus rose from the dead and He met Paul on the road to Ameus. there He gave Paul instructions and He gave him the Holy Spirit who spoke through Paul from that time on.

It would be helpful if you did a bit of research before you make unfounded comments. Also, nothing in Acts disagrees with anything Paul said, so please qualify your comment with a bit of evidence
Paul just had a vision. In other words a hallucination. Would you trust a hallucination?

And Acts was likely to have been written by a companion of Paul's so the similarity would not be surprising.
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
Nope. Secular science is evidence based, NOT faith based.

Whether you want to admit it or not, the *science* shows the Earth is about 4.5 billion years old. It also shows that the universe is expanding and was once much hotter and denser (the Big Bang model). And it shows that species change over geological time (evolution).
Sure secular science is evidence based, the problem is the evidence they accept is the same evidence they fabricated. The whole things falls over when actual independent evidence is applied to it.

You don't get to set the goal posts when you talk about evidence, nobody owns evidence. Evidence is what exposes lies, it's not meant to be invented then used a s a weapon against the truth.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Sure secular science is evidence based, the problem is the evidence they accept is the same evidence they fabricated. The whole things falls over when actual independent evidence is applied to it.

You don't get to set the goal posts when you talk about evidence, nobody owns evidence. Evidence is what exposes lies, it's not meant to be invented then used a s a weapon against the truth.
Please give examples of "fabricated evidence" and "independent evidence".

I am very certain that you do not understand the concept of evidence. And as usual these were probably just empty claims that you have made that you can never support.
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
Magenta ^.

"This chapter considers what the Pauline epistles reveal about the nature of the Pauline churches and to this end looks at a range of issues: their genus; their formation; their composition; how Paul configures their identity; their leadership structure; their rituals; their meetings; the kinds of places in which they met. The discussion reflects the state of contemporary scholarship on the Pauline communities, but it also seeks to make a fresh contribution to the subject. A critique of the now dominant ‘house-church’ reconstruction of the Pauline congregations is offered, and a more diversified picture is proposed."

Keywords: ecclesiology, ekklēsia, house church, meeting places, New Testament ecclesiology, Pauline churches, rituals
Shape of the Pauline Churches - Oxford Handbooks

Right?

Regards
This is just a bunch of unfounded hogwash,anyone can write anything as your article proves. The question is what's true and what's false
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
None of the gospel writers was an eyewitness, and there are very few provable “facts” about Jesus. Yet you accept the gospels as sources.
The printing press came much later, so the Apostles were dead by that time. The life and death and resurrection if Christ, was witnessed by countless thousands of people who followed Him everywhere He went and recorded every word He said.
So you are dead wrong about both of your points, Jesus remains the most talked about person in human history. every atheist is obsessed with Him and every other religious leader is obsessed with him and it's evident He is a big problem for you as well. You just can't deal with the fact that He is God almighty creator of all things.
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
You’re making an awful lot of “fact claims” with no backing evidence. That means they’re not fact claims at all. Fact claim and Faith claim are not the same thing.
What's the best selling book been every year for the past 2000 years??????? yep you guessed it. so much for you facts claim accusations, the evidence is in your face
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
Where are their accounts? Not one eyewitness wrote anything.
As you know everyone, everyone carried around expensive leather bound note books and Parker Pens. As you know most of them we stolen and turned into hand bags and wallets and the pages were used to start the stove, so yeah
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
The printing press came much later, so the Apostles were dead by that time. The life and death and resurrection if Christ, was witnessed by countless thousands of people who followed Him everywhere He went and recorded every word He said
Nope. That’s simply not How It Worked in ancient Palestine. It was an oral, not a scribal culture. Since the apostles didn’t author the texts, your post makes 0 sense.

He is a big problem for you as well. You just can't deal with the fact that He is God almighty creator of all things
I don’t know what leads you to that knee jerk “conclusion.” Why do you think Jesus would be a “big problem” for me? Why would you think I’m not a Trinitarian?
Or are you simply trolling and being provocative?
 
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