Try to prove to me your religion.

[lovesong]

What are the inaccuracies?

The bible credits mankind to a creator whereas today we know mankind is the result of evolution.
The bible claims that some men lived for hundreds of years whereas today we know this is not possible.
The bible dates the earth as 6,000 years old (although this is not stated directly, scholars have used the ages of some of the men to find this date), whereas today we know it has existed for over four billion years.
The bible references figures, places, and events that are not historically accurate (the Egyptians never enslaved mass amounts of Jews to build the pyramids, for example).
The bible contradicts itself multiple times (for example, Genesis provides multiple creation stories).

 

[anonymous9887]

May Allah give you peace for defending the Truth.

Yes hopefully you find truth, and you look and the modern research that disproves the Qur'an.
May you find truth and not be so hard headed.

 

[Jabar]

Because the question is if god in the torah uses YHWH and Jesus confirms this in the New testament as gods name(here are the problems)
Why doesn't mohammed use it or reveal it?
Did Yahweh just change his name?
It must have been significant to be in the torah 100s of times, and to be found historically, Jesus to quote passages containing Yahweh's name. The change does not add up all of a sudden.

Allah is a title.
How would you say the god of the Hindus in arabic?

So you claim Bible to be the word of God completely?

 

[anonymous9887]

The bible credits mankind to a creator whereas today we know mankind is the result of evolution.
The bible claims that some men lived for hundreds of years whereas today we know this is not possible.
The bible dates the earth as 6,000 years old (although this is not stated directly, scholars have used the ages of some of the men to find this date), whereas today we know it has existed for over four billion years.
The bible references figures, places, and events that are not historically accurate (the Egyptians never enslaved mass amounts of Jews to build the pyramids, for example).
The bible contradicts itself multiple times (for example, Genesis provides multiple creation stories).

All of the things you mentioned have answers.
1. We have access to the same evidence, but it is the interpretation of the evidence. The age of the earth there is 2 stances you can take millions of years or 6 literal day. How old was adam when he was created? He was a man. So the same with the earth god can create anything at any age.

 

[Raahim]

Because the question is if god in the torah uses YHWH and Jesus confirms this in the New testament as gods name(here are the problems)
Why doesn't mohammed use it or reveal it?
Did Yahweh just change his name?
It must have been significant to be in the torah 100s of times, and to be found historically, Jesus to quote passages containing Yahweh's name. The change does not add up all of a sudden.

Allah is a title.
How would you say the god of the Hindus in arabic?

Yeshua ﷺ used Torah because he was a Jew, that's logical. New Testament is not the best source since it's many contradictions (in general) and human errors (alert: personal faith). There are multiple verses in Quran that claim what was given in Torah is confirmation of the covenant and following that logic we come to conclusion that the name YHWH is used in Quran.
I forgot the noun but to refer to other false gods you use different noun and not Allah because that is (also) a name of one true God.

 

[anonymous9887]

The bible credits mankind to a creator whereas today we know mankind is the result of evolution.
The bible claims that some men lived for hundreds of years whereas today we know this is not possible.
The bible dates the earth as 6,000 years old (although this is not stated directly, scholars have used the ages of some of the men to find this date), whereas today we know it has existed for over four billion years.
The bible references figures, places, and events that are not historically accurate (the Egyptians never enslaved mass amounts of Jews to build the pyramids, for example).
The bible contradicts itself multiple times (for example, Genesis provides multiple creation stories).

But you must also provide the evidence for your claims, otherwise it's hearsay, you have to bring conclusive evidence of the things you say.

 

[EtuMalku]

What is all this nonsense?
1) you cannot use a religion's book to evidence that religion
2) you cannot use a book written after a fact to evidence that fact
In pre-Islamic Arabia, Allah was not used to refer to the sole divinity as it is in Islam. The notion of the term may have been vague in the Meccan religion. Muhammad's father's name was ʿAbd-Allāh meaning "the slave of Allāh". Pre-Islamic Christians, Jews and the monotheistic Arabs called Hanifs used the term 'Bismillah', 'in the name of Allah' and the name Allah to refer to their supreme deity in Arabic stone inscriptions centuries before Islam.

Allah was a pre-Islamic Moon deity among many other deities . . .

 

[anonymous9887]

Yeshua ﷺ used Torah because he was a Jew, that's logical. New Testament is not the best source since it's many contradictions (in general) and human errors (alert: personal faith). There are multiple verses in Quran that claim what was given in Torah is confirmation of the covenant and following that logic we come to conclusion that the name YHWH is used in Quran.
I forgot the noun but to refer to other false gods you use different noun and not Allah because that is (also) a name of one true God.

100s almost 1000 times in different documents. I don't think so.
Let me ask you a question is it possible for you and I to be without sinning?

 

[Raahim]

100s almost 1000 times in different documents. I don't think so.
Let me ask you a question is it possible for you and I to be without sinning?

That which is flesh is also with sins. Allah the Most Merciful is the one taking away the sins when we repent from heart.

 

[anonymous9887]

So you claim Bible to be the word of God completely?

Yes I do. Again the additions that were made to the bible were easily weeded out. And if their are some things that seem vulgar this is human perspective. It is the word of god. There are challenging passages, but they can be resolved. If not it is as simple as a scribal error and can be traced and corrected.

 

[anonymous9887]

That which is flesh is also with sins. Allah the Most Merciful is the one taking away the sins when we repent from heart.

The question is can I be a sinless muslim from the cradle to the grave, since we are all born muslim.

 

[EtuMalku]

Yes I do. Again the additions that were made to the bible were easily weeded out. And if their are some things that seem vulgar this is human perspective. It is the word of god. There are challenging passages, but they can be resolved. If not it is as simple as a scribal error and can be traced and corrected.

There is absolutely no objective evidence that there is a god, that the Christian bible is the word of this god or any god for that matter.

 

[Raahim]

The question is can I be a sinless muslim from the cradle to the grave, since we are all born muslim.

I answered the question, but I'll do it again: No.
The only reason why that is so is because we are humans & our desired in material word are sometimes stronger than spiritual.

 

[anonymous9887]

I answered the question, but I'll do it again: No.
The only reason why that is so is because we are humans & our desired in material word are sometimes stronger than spiritual.

So Allah created us imperfect incapable of being sinless.
He created us sinners

 

[Jabar]

Yes I do. Again the additions that were made to the bible were easily weeded out. And if their are some things that seem vulgar this is human perspective. It is the word of god. There are challenging passages, but they can be resolved. If not it is as simple as a scribal error and can be traced and corrected.

Then tell me this. In the First Kings Ch.No. 15 Verse No.33:
In the third year of Asa king of Judah, Baasha son of Ahijah became king of all Israel in Tirzah, and he reigned twenty-four years.

2nd Chronicles Ch.16 V.1:
In the thirty-sixth year of Asa's reign Baasha king of Israel went up against Judah and fortified Ramah to prevent anyone from leaving or entering the territory of Asa king of Judah.

This is a clear contradiction.

 

[anonymous9887]

Then tell me this. In the First Kings Ch.No. 15 Verse No.33:
In the third year of Asa king of Judah, Baasha son of Ahijah became king of all Israel in Tirzah, and he reigned twenty-four years.

2nd Chronicles Ch.16 V.1:
In the thirty-sixth year of Asa's reign Baasha king of Israel went up against Judah and fortified Ramah to prevent anyone from leaving or entering the territory of Asa king of Judah.

This is a clear contradiction.

Ok so what if I explain this one then what?

 

[Raahim]

So Allah created us imperfect incapable of being sinless.
He created us sinners

Uh, do you think that Allah makes that which is not perfect?
Adam ﷺ was perfect by default, sinless but his will and disobedience led mankind to sinful desires and we struggle to become better.

 

[anonymous9887]

Ok so what if I explain this one then what?

In the first one he becomes king in the second one he goes up against it.

 

[anonymous9887]

Uh, do you think that Allah makes that which is not perfect?
Adam ﷺ was perfect by default, sinless but his will and disobedience led mankind to sinful desires and we struggle to become better.

Ok so we are capable of being perfect?

 

[anonymous9887]

Uh, do you think that Allah makes that which is not perfect?
Adam ﷺ was perfect by default, sinless but his will and disobedience led mankind to sinful desires and we struggle to become better.

If you believe in original sin you are a Christian.