scooptothehoop10
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then please do tell me why you think that a lot of Christian churches shouldnt be allowed to exist because they offend people.
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Turns out Ground Zero Mosque protesters are racists too!
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then please do tell me why you think that a lot of Christian churches shouldnt be allowed to exist because they offend people.
Yup. Everybodies the same. Everyone who just wantss to show some respect to 3000 dead people is actually using it as a cover to be a racist who hates muslims and wishes that they would all die.the majority of the bigots that i have seen on this forum so far are actually bigots towards christians. I never realized how far hate had begun to run against us.
So you're assuming I'm bigoted towards Christians simply because I don't like the westboro baptist church and support the building of a muslim cultural center?
Tell me just how is it disrespectful for people, who had nothing to do with the group that attacked the world trade center, to build a cultural center several blocks from ground zero, that won't even be visible from ground zero? Especially when you consider the fact that muslims died in the 9/11 attacks as well.
By the way there's a video I posted in here just a couple pages ago that I asked those who opposed the center to take a look at. I would appreciate if you did so and then told me what you think.
Smoke
Done here.
That's not what I think, and it's not what I said.
scooptothehoop10
Member
whatever. you dont seem to like christians to me. please just answer what you know i mean.
Oh, and no i would not like to watch a video from msnbc, the most liberal news station out there. THey are from the same religion, which happens to produce more radicals than any other religion.
oh crimeny, all he said was that if the muslim center shouldn't be built because it offends some people then that would mean a lot of christian churches would have to be closed as well. He said nothing about him thinking they shouldn't exist. It's an issue of fairness scoop. if the muslims can't build their center because a few people are offended then, to be FAIR, many christian churches should be closed because many people find the practices and preachings of said churches to be offensive. Neither of us are advocating that they should be, he was just making a correlation to help illustrate the issue.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Looks like they won the appeal. Score one for religious freedom!
And that is exactly what I disagree with.
scooptothehoop10
Member
ya. because a lot of christian churches that go up have riots spring up because of them.
the people who attacked pearl harbor were japanese. Should japanese people not be allowed to open up shop or build shinto temples near pearl harbor?
Smoke
Done here.
You're mistaken. I'm married to a Christian. My parents, my brother, my nephews, my aunts, my cousins, my in-laws, and most of my friends are Christians. I can like Christians without liking Christianity. And I can like some Christians without liking all Christians.
I'm afraid I might not be any better at mindreading than you are. However, it might help you a little if I point out that the statement that got you so fired up was not a blanket statement about all Christians. If the shoe doesn't fit, don't insist on trying to wear it.
ya. because a lot of christian churches that go up have riots spring up because of them.
Whether or not they riot doesn't change the fact that some christian churches offend some people whether it be because of the church's practices or simply because they are christian. And some churches do get protested. If we are to obey the sentiments of the bigots who protest or are offended by the muslim center why shouldn't we obey the sentiments of the bigots who protest or are offended by certain Christian churches?
scooptothehoop10
Member
ok, i appreciate that. Why do you not like christianity, Smoke? But this might not be the thread for that.
Smoke
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What made you think I was even considering asking you to watch a video from MSNBC? You really don't need me for this conversation at all, do you? You can just rant and argue with the imaginary Smoke in your head.
Seems to me you're the one doing the stereotyping here.
Smoke
Done here.
ya. because a lot of christian churches that go up have riots spring up because of them.
Seems to me the criticism might properly be directed at the people doing the rioting, not the people being rioted against.
scooptothehoop10
Member
yay! i love playing whos the most moral, and whos stereotyping. Thanks for reminding me why its hard to have a good debate with people on online forums.
Smoke
Done here.
You accused me of stereotyping, proceeded to hit me with one stereotype after another, and now you don't like my pointing it out? I've got a feeling the reason you have trouble debating with people isn't what you think it is.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
I'm realizing that there's no debating this issue with the mindset:
scooptothehoop10 said:
which is the pinnacle of stereotyping.
I almost agreed that it might be in bad taste to insist building there. And then I realized the main issue has nothing to do with the sympathy of those who were hurt in the tragedy.
I reiterate: American Muslims were hurt just as much as any other American, and they continue to be hurt by the above quoted sentiment.
scooptothehoop10
Member
Ok, look, im sorry, but can u please answer my question smoke?
And thats my point, guitars cry, i appose it because it just seems in bad taste. It just seems wrong. And Since when is this country a reverse democracy, in which the minority, not the majority rule. I've also heard from a couple friends that its name in Arabic is victory. (I said heard. I havent looked into it to see if its true or not. I just thought i should throw that out there.)
And thats my point, guitars cry, i appose it because it just seems in bad taste. It just seems wrong. And Since when is this country a reverse democracy, in which the minority, not the majority rule. I've also heard from a couple friends that its name in Arabic is victory. (I said heard. I havent looked into it to see if its true or not. I just thought i should throw that out there.)
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Please read the frickin' Constitution, Scoopy.
I don't remember what the original name was but the muslims building the center actually compromised on that and are now just calling it "95 park place" or something like that. They already compromised on the name and you want them to compromise on the location as well even though they have every legal right to be there? If I were to say it was in bad taste for a group of japanese people to build a shinto temple near pearl harbor would that justify brow beating them into moving the temple to a different location?