Unintelligent Design

[viole]

Your signature. It is not wrong. When I think about it, it is so interesting. Maybe one day I will find someone who is likeminded. There is so much to discuss. It links so well. We Him, then He us. Wonderful!

We Him, then He us?

So, do you think He would agree if I said: "He carved an idol out of fear and called him man"?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Robert.Evans]

The collision of two asteroids is evolving consciousness?

What?

Ciao

- viole

Never mind.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Yes, I lost my sleep imagining the odds of those two asteroids colliding at the right angle and with the right momentum so that we can exist.

Ciao

- viole

I bet I lost more thinking it might be luck

 

[Robert.Evans]

We Him, then He us?

So, do you think He would agree if I said: "He carved an idol out of fear and called him man"?

Ciao

- viole

Never mind. Go back to the luck of us existing. What is this reason then if not luck or intelligence? I keep asking people and no one seems to answer it.

 

[viole]

I bet I lost more thinking it might be luck

I am pretty sure I would not lose my sleep if I won millions at the lottery

Ciao

- viole

 

[Robert.Evans]

I am pretty sure I would not lose my sleep if I won millions at the lottery

Ciao

- viole

Is that a joke, or do you mean because it is luck? If luck, is it not through probability? And is that not worked out? Are there not parameters involved?
You look nice with a smiling face.

 

[viole]

Never mind. Go back to the luck of us existing. What is this reason then if not luck or intelligence? I keep asking people and no one seems to answer it.

Well, I am sure that if that particular sperm did not have the right momentum, them some other sperm could have fertilized that particular egg.

Was that luck for me or bad luck for one of my possible siblings?

Or was that maybe a product of intelligence to produce an outspoken atheist like me?

Ciao

- viole

 

[First Baseman]

Not to mention how susceptible we are to all kinds of diseases, including cancer.

Reread Genesis. Because of sin the earth is cursed.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Well, I am sure that if that particular sperm did not have the right momentum, them some other sperm could have fertilized that particular egg.

Why could it?
What parameters are involved that make it so and where do they come from, ultimately I mean .

Was that luck for me or bad luck for one of my possible siblings?

Evolving consciousness in phsysical form. Luck would seem silly, something a child might say, but not real. There would have to be parameters to make it so. And then I would ask, where are they from?

Or was that maybe a product of intelligence to produce an outspoken atheist like me?

Ciao

- viole

You are what you are.
You have the wrong concept of God, I think.

 

[Skwim]

Reread Genesis. Because of sin the earth is cursed.

So god redesigned life after the apple incident so it would have faults?

 

[Demonslayer]

So god redesigned life after the apple incident so they would have faults?

God was SUPER pissed about that apple. He was saving it for after his workout.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

What is this reason then if not luck or intelligence? I keep asking people and no one seems to answer it.

You've had an answer several times, it's a false dichotomy.

 

[Robert.Evans]

You've had an answer several times, it's a false dichotomy.

I must have missed it. Type again please, I don't always read your comments as there not normally serious

 

[dust1n]

I think it is an evolving consciousness. Do you think it was luck? Really?

So the consciousness of God is evolving from incredibly stupid to one day when it can actually accomplish a goal?

 

[dust1n]

Reread Genesis. Because of sin the earth is cursed.

Who cursed the Earth?

 

[Robert.Evans]

So the consciousness of God is evolving from incredibly stupid to one day when it can actually accomplish a goal?

Evolving from not existing to forming everything we know and don't know, that is and will be.
You have a better answer? Blind chance perhaps? Let me sit down first, I don't want to fall over when I read it laughing.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

I must have missed it. Type again please, I don't always read your comments as there not normally serious

As the Buddha often said: "Not a valid question".

 

[Robert.Evans]

As the Buddha often said: "Not a valid question".

Why is it not valid. If no intelligence is involved in creation then how does it all work? I'll wait.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Why is it not valid. If no intelligence is involved in creation then how does it all work? I'll wait.

You need to come up with a more intelligent question.

 

[Pudding]

When someone claims that intelligence must be involved in creation, and can't be the possibility of luck, it's their burden to prove those two claim's validity.

Intelligence must be involved in creation? It can't be the result of luck? Or any other assumptions?
For me, all is possible, but not yet to substantiated or proven correct, evidence pending.

Maybe some religion have their evidence for their claims, well, it's not convincing for me or i've not yet seen any convincing evidence present. Their evidence is convincing for them, but not for me.