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Universal Reconciliation religion.
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Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Okay, I did. Did you read 1 Corinthians 15:22 again?
It is possible 1 Corinthians 15:22 means Christ interceded to stop the end of mankind (an inevitability) so in that sense the whole (not every) was made alive by him for life, not destruction.
Genesis 18:23 will you really sweep away the righteous with the wicked? 32 finally (Abraham) said, "Oh don't let the Lord be angry, and I will speak just once more. What if ten are found there?" He said, "I will not destroy it for the ten's sake."
Genesis 18:23 will you really sweep away the righteous with the wicked? 32 finally (Abraham) said, "Oh don't let the Lord be angry, and I will speak just once more. What if ten are found there?" He said, "I will not destroy it for the ten's sake."
Okay, I did. Did you read 1 Corinthians 15:22 again?
This is not talking about eternal life. You cannot compare this with John 3-16
What dont you understand?
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Of course I can. I am.
As I already said, I don't believe that being resurrected is the same thing as to have "eternal life." But if the wicked simply "perish," then they are not resurrected and the Bible says all will be resurrected. Nobody will simply cease to exist after they die.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
In other words, it doesn't really mean what it says?
Do not interpretations belong to God?
"all" meaning; every, all manner of
Including all the forms of declension; apparently a primary word; all, any, every, the whole -- all (manner of, means), alway(-s), any (one), X daily, + ever, every (one, way), as many as, + no(-thing), X thoroughly, whatsoever, whole, whosoever.
You say it means every person, but that meaning is inclusiveness, no?
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
John 5:28 Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.
who are the people who have practiced vile things? Why do these ones also get resurrected?
We will be resurrected to be judged I guess. But this does not make sense either. why would we be resurrected to be announced to be dead?
No offense my friend, but why would someone who "speaks for Jesus", say "I am using Jesus' wisdom.
I am here to educate about Jesus' word to the world", then say "I dont pretend I am a bible scholar like most Christians do in the forums"?
Isn't this a bit contradictory? Shouldn't you be well versed and knowledgable about what you're saying before you say it?
Also, do you think Jesus would say "You need to go back to grade school for English comprehension skill, friend", or "You dont seem to have any good argument against my claim. You are the lame one, IMO"?
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
good question.
People can only be resurrected if they are already dead. And when they are brought back to life, they are no longer dead. So they are not being resurrected to be put back to death....otherwise there is no need to resurrect them.
Obviously then they are resurrected so they can live. Even those who were practicers of what was wicked when they were alive will be given an opportunity to live again. How long they will live will depend on them, but regardless of their works, they will still be given that opportunity.
Not at all. I use Jesus' wisdom in everything I do because Jesus is my Teacher as well as my Savior. He is also my Lord. You dont seem to understand what "Lord" means. It is Master or Boss.
I was making point how silly things they say just to argue. Jesus also did make point when they make stupid comment. Jesus said "you are teachers of law yet you dont understand these things?"
did you know that most of them were are just trolling the thread? Did you read from the beginning of the thread? Did you know one of the poster made false accusation?
Plead judge fairly, friend.
good day.
What? You bring in the word "Lord" as part of your point then use it to make it look like you have a higher understanding of what is being discussed or what I know? Nice try.
Jesus didn't make a point just to argue. He made points for people to learn. You are not Jesus. You are human and you're allowed to make mistakes.
I didn't see anyone trolling. I did see people arguing their point against yours and you running to the mods for help or to shut this thread down. I have read from the beginning.
I don't judge. I just call it how I see it. I'm just addressing the things you've said. Doesn't mean you're a bad person. In fact I think you have the best of intentions but just don't quite have the best way of saying it. No one does on the internet.
Remember that even Jesus doubted God at one point.
Nice chatting with you my friend.
How? please elaborate.
Why hast thou forsaken me?
Matthew 27:46
Sorry, I disappoint you. I dont try to be popular to the world.
You are making false accusation too.
Again you are not making false accusation, I did not ask the mod the shut down my thread.
You need to stop this false accusation.
You just did.
so you just make comment to analyze me?
sheesh. Are you forum critic?
It is not doubt, It was just too much agony He felt.
No. It is not written what he meant.
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