Universal Reconciliation religion.

[Dude]

Sorry, I disappoint you. I dont try to be popular to the world.
You are making false accusation too.

I didn't see anyone trolling. I did see people arguing their point against yours and
Again you are not making false accusation, I did not ask the mod the shut down my thread.
You need to stop this false accusation.

You just did.

I just call it how I see it. I'm just addressing the things you've said. Doesn't mean you're a bad person. In fact I think you have the best of intentions but just don't quite have the best way of saying it. No one does on the internet.

so you just make comment to analyze me?

sheesh. Are you forum critic?

So you are opposed to talking freely since there is some sort of translation problem?

Just so so you know- I've never been accused of false accusation until now.

 

[Meshak]

No. It is not written what he meant.

My reasoning is contextual.

He was agonized all night long too. so much so that He asked His Father to take it way if it is possible. But it certainly is not doubt about His Father.

 

[Meshak]

So you are opposed to talking freely since there is some sort of translation problem?

Not at all. But I dont feed the trolls.

Just so so you know- I've never been accused of false accusation until now.

I guess it is first time.

 

[savagewind]

My reasoning is contextual.

He was agonized all night long too. so much so that He asked His Father to take it way if it is possible. But it certainly is not doubt about His Father.

It seems he was asking why his Father had left him.

forsake, leave.

From en and kataleipo; to leave behind in some place, i.e. (in a good sense) let remain over, or (in a bad sense) to desert -- forsake, leave.

 

[Meshak]

It seems he was asking why his Father had left him.

Questioning is not doubt. doubt is negative term. Jesus does not have any negative thought about His Father's will.

 

[savagewind]

Questioning is not doubt. doubt is negative term. Jesus does not have any negative thought about His Father's will.

True. The post read Jesus doubted God. I think he was feeling apprehension about his own role in the outworking of God's purpose.

 

[Meshak]

True. The post read Jesus doubted God.

the post or the verse?

 

[savagewind]

the post or the verse?

The poster's post previous page.

 

[Meshak]

The poster's post previous page.

Ok. thanks

 

[Meshak]

Remember Jesus is so loyal and faithful to His Father. That's why His Father loves Him dearly.

So He never doubt about His Father.

 

[savagewind]

Remember Jesus is so loyal and faithful to His Father. That's why His Father loves Him dearly.

So He never doubt about His Father.

I believe that. I was taught by the Jehovah's Witnesses that it was possible for him to doubt his Father and it is why satan tempted him. Satan tempted him because satan is a troll.

 

[Meshak]

I believe that. I was taught by the Jehovah's Witnesses that it was possible for him to doubt his Father and it is why satan tempted him. Satan tempted him because satan is a troll.

Jesus was so confident about His faith to His Father. He called His disciples "you little faith. Why do you doubt?". this is sure statement of absolute faith in His Father.

 

[Dude]

Questioning is not doubt.

Good point

But Jesus did question God as to why he had to suffer. Jesus was scared even before he went to the cross. He knew his human life was going to expire and even though he had a pretty good idea he would spend eternity at the side of God, he asked why hast you forsaken me?. Sounds like a human in doubt,no?

 

[Meshak]

Good point

But Jesus did question God as to why he had to suffer. Jesus was scared even before he went to the cross. He knew his human life was going to expire and even though he had a pretty good idea he would spend eternity at the side of God, he asked why hast you forsaken me?. Sounds like a human in doubt,no?

Jesus was so confident about His faith to His Father. He called His disciples "you little faith. Why do you doubt?". this is sure statement of absolute faith in His Father.

 

[Katzpur]

You say it means every person, but that meaning is inclusiveness, no?

Yes. I believe it means that every person who has ever lived will be resurrected. The first part of the statement (as in Adam all die) means that all who have ever lived will die. It follows that the last part of the statement (in Christ shall all be made alive) means that all who have ever died will be resurrected.

 

[savagewind]

Yes. I believe it means that every person who has ever lived will be resurrected. The first part of the statement (as in Adam all die) means that all who have ever lived will die. It follows that the last part of the statement (in Christ shall all be made alive) means that all who have ever died will be resurrected.

Or it means that because of sin in the likes of Adam, man was never able to make peace so destroyed Mankind and The Earth.

Revelation 11:18 The nations were angry; and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great--and for destroying those who destroy the earth.

 

[Meshak]

Yes. I believe it means that every person who has ever lived will be resurrected.

Not everyone resurrected will be saved. It seems to be saying everyone will be resurrected to be judged.

 

[sojourner]

My reasoning is contextual.

He was agonized all night long too. so much so that He asked His Father to take it way if it is possible. But it certainly is not doubt about His Father.

Do you know where the saying comes from (since your "reasoning is contextual")? That might give you a clue as to why Jesus said it.

 

[Katzpur]

Not everyone resurrected will be saved. It seems to be saying everyone will be resurrected to be judged.

But then what is going to happen to those who aren't saved? I'm afraid I'm starting to get your posts mixed up with savagewind's. Do you believe that those who aren't saved will be condemned to Hell forever, or simply go out of existence?

 

[sojourner]

Remember Jesus is so loyal and faithful to His Father. That's why His Father loves Him dearly.

So He never doubt about His Father.

The Father does not love the Son because the Son is faithful. That's conditional, and love (as the bible tells us) does not rejoice in its own way.