Utah counts down to firing squad execution

[Smokeless Indica]

Humans, certain animals, and theoretically intelligent aliens. Really though, the further from human it is, the harder it is to empathize with it. That's just the nature of empathy. So is there anywhere you're trying to get with this, or are you just curious as to why somebody wouldn't want other people to get killed?

That's the nature of your empathy.
Not everybody's.
I feel empathy towards animals more than I do people.

 

[KatNotKathy]

Lack of human empathy is really a cause for concern. I mean, even when it's not a symptom of autism or psychopathy it could certainly make forming personal relationships a bit tougher.

 

[Smokeless Indica]

Lack of human empathy is really a cause for concern. I mean, even when it's not a symptom of autism or psychopathy it could certainly make forming personal relationships a bit tougher.

It's not like I have no empathy towards humans at all, just not ALL of them.
I have empathy towards my family and friends. It's just hard for me to feel empathy towards some random person walking down the street. They don't need ME to feel anything towards them. I'm sure they have people in their lives that do that for them already.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

why not save all the money you can and do away with appeals etc and just shoot suspects after a summary trial, save even more money by not giving them legal representation.and you could even get them to shoot themselves.

Why would we want to do this? Even according to your own link, over 120 innocent people were released from death row. That could have potentially been 120 innocent people killed for a crime they did not commit. It's own statistic was for every 8 people killed, 1 is let off.

 

[KatNotKathy]

Why would we want to do this? Even according to your own link, over 120 innocent people were released from death row. That could have potentially been 120 innocent people killed for a crime they did not commit. It's own statistic was for every 8 people killed, 1 is let off.

Whoosh

 

[kai]

Why would we want to do this? Even according to your own link, over 120 innocent people were released from death row. That could have potentially been 120 innocent people killed for a crime they did not commit. It's own statistic was for every 8 people killed, 1 is let off.

i was being sarcastic,

 

[Father Heathen]

No the more i think about it i dont have the right to believe peoples moral conscience should advance with technology.

How exactly is my moral conscience stunted due to my lack of empathy for those who prey upon the innocent?

 

[Father Heathen]

Really? People would rather have no freedom than die?

Seriously?

I would rather die than be unable to walk where and when I liked, wearing what I liked, with whoever I liked.

What is this in response to?

 

[kai]

How exactly is my moral conscience stunted due to my lack of empathy for those who prey upon the innocent?

i have no empathy for those that prey upon the innocent either, but i have empathy for those executed for something they didnt do which makes them innocents, if you dont have empathy for the killing of innocents then i suppose i would call your moral conscience stunted.

 

[KatNotKathy]

i have no empathy for those that prey upon the innocent either, but i have empathy for those executed for something they didnt do which makes them innocents, if you dont have empathy for the killing of innocents then i suppose i would call your moral conscience stunted.

Yeah seriously, even if you're the "criminals are subhuman" sort, supporting the death penalty is in effect supporting the execution of innocents as well.

 

[Father Heathen]

i have no empathy for those that prey upon the innocent either, but i have empathy for those executed for something they didnt do which makes them innocents, if you dont have empathy for the killing of innocents then i suppose i would call your moral conscience stunted.

Well, like I stated earlier I do oppose the death penalty for that reason. That, and I think life imprisonment is worse than death. Personally I would rather be dead than spend the rest of my existence locked up in such a hopeless, bleak, restrictive and hostile environment. Thus let them spend the rest of their days reflecting upon their misdeeds as they rot. If they turn out to be innocent you can at least release them and try to compensate them somehow, whereas you can't resurrect a corpse.

 

[kai]

Well, like I stated earlier I do oppose the death penalty for that reason. That, and I think life imprisonment is worse than death. Personally I would rather be dead that spend the rest of my existence locked up in such a hopeless, bleak, restrictive and hostile environment. Thus let them spend the rest of their days reflecting upon their misdeeds as they rot. If they turn out to be innocent you can at least release them and try to compensate them somehow, whereas you can't resurrect a corpse.

well we are in agreement

 

[Smokeless Indica]

Here's a few things that I live my life by:
**** happens
Don't waste your time on people you can't help.
Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

 

[Mister Emu]

Yeah seriously, even if you're the "criminals are subhuman" sort, supporting the death penalty is in effect supporting the execution of innocents as well.

That is absurd...

I suppose you support the imprisonment of violent criminals? Does that mean you support the incarceration of the innocents that will invariably be sent to prison?

 

[KatNotKathy]

That is absurd...

I suppose you support the imprisonment of violent criminals? Does that mean you support the incarceration of the innocents that will invariably be sent to prison?

I don't directly support it, but I do support measures that have the unfortunate side effect of occasionally imprisoning innocents. Fortunately we have systems in place that can remedy that. You can't release the dead.

 

[kai]

I don't directly support it, but I do support measures that have the unfortunate side effect of occasionally imprisoning innocents. Fortunately we have systems in place that can remedy that. You can't release the dead.

Thats right an innocent prisoner can be released

 

[Truth_Faith13]

I heard a horrible story once of a man who was sentenced to death by electric chair - which went wrong - took 6 attempts!! - He turned out to be innocent and worse he was actually the VICTIM of the crime!!!

At the end of the day the Law isnt always right..sometimes they do get it wrong and its best for that person to have been put in prison than sentenced to death..as has already been said you cant resurrect a corpse!! many people have been released from prison after years in prison. There was an english man who was in prison for 21years for a murder he didnt commit and worse NEVER TOOK PLACE!!! But at least he is able to rebuild his life and see his grandchildren etc!

Again as has already been said I much prefer the idea of prisoners rotting without freedom rather than being put to death!! I just think (especially in the UK) prisons are too easy unfortunately, many commit crimes to go to prison because they feel safe (and get an education and a so called "famiy")

 

[Panda]

Here's a few things that I live my life by:
**** happens
Don't waste your time on people you can't help.
Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

So if you got put on death row for something you didn't do you would be ok with the rest of the world not caring and letting them kill you?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Don't waste your time on people you can't help.

True, there are some people you just can't help. They are most often those who won't help themselves. But you can indeed help, or at least attempt help, most people.

 

[Smokeless Indica]

So if you got put on death row for something you didn't do you would be ok with the rest of the world not caring and letting them kill you?

Yes. I don't care if the rest of the world doesn't care about me. Why should I? All I care about is what my family and friends do or think. I know they would do everything they could to help me.


I don't condone killing innocents, only people who it's known for a fact have commited a murder. Somehow some words got put in mouth just so you guys could jump on me and make me look like some kind of noncaring evil monster when that's not the case at all.