Pinnacle of biological design? By what metric?
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Verifiable evidence for creationism?
- Thread starter leibowde84
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leibowde84
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You dodged the question. What does he say specifically that is damaging?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
If you are going to use cause and effect as reasoning, you have to provide the cause for God. If you cant, then you can't stick to cause and effect being constant, can you?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
What is the cause for God? It seems like you are using cause and effect, but abandon it once you get to God. That isn't linear/logical. Can you explain this discrepancy?
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Everything. If you want a quote, you'll have to look yourself
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Why not? There is a domino effect isn't there? It does not have to continue into infinity does it?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Way to be disrespectful. I don't find his words to be damaging, so be an adult and provide the words you see as damaging.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Right, the ''discrepancy'', is part of the explanation, as far as I'm concerned.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
If you are going to claim cause and effect is constant, you can't just ignore God's cause. If God can avoid the need for a cause, then you cannot claim cause and effect as a constant and, thus, can't claim that the universe needs one.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Everything he says is damaging? Sorry, not buying it. Maybe don't make claims you're not willing to back up.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
So, cause and effect is a constant except where it doesn't line up with your beliefs? That is literally what you are saying.
Right, the ''discrepancy'', is part of the explanation, as far as I'm concerned.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
There has to be a finger for the domino effect, does there not? There is nothing un-constant about the effect once it is running. Does that deny the finger?
dust1n
Zindīq
Why, does God have hands like a human? Wonder why...
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
He preaches that there is no God, even if he shies away from actually saying it to most - do you not think THAT is damaging? If not, it is pointless backing it up. I might start a thread on it sometime.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
The fingers movement has a cause, does it not? So does the attached person, does it not? So, this analogy doesn't help you here.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
A table has legs - can a table walk?
dust1n
Zindīq
Only if the refrigerator is running.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
No I don't think it's damaging for a person to say they don't believe in god(s) and then to provide the reasons for not believing. What is damaging about that?
Do you believe in Thor? Do you think it's damaging to explain why you don't believe in Thor?
Who or what is it damaging?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Why would his sharing of his opinion on the existence of God be damaging? Can you explain that? Are you arguing for censorship of atheists?
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Ultimately, if you want to go back past the concept of God, you will find something that just is. There has to be as nothing can only be nothing. You have to have something to bring something else. So we see cause and effect. As mindnumbing as it might be to think that something just IS, it is better than saying that it ISN'T. That Source of all things changed, and therein started the domino effect. Why and how it changed, I don't know. That is the unknowable one.