Thief
Rogue Theologian
and God said unto Moses....
Tell the people .....I AM!.....and they that have understanding will know Whose Word this is
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Verifiable evidence for creationism?
- Thread starter leibowde84
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Tell the people .....I AM!.....and they that have understanding will know Whose Word this is
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Please expain how this is relevant to his question. And, can you be a bit more straight forward?
McBell
Unbound
Bold empty claims do not help you.
At least, not outside the choir room.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
and you are a product?"God" is a product of the human mind and therefore by definition limited.
I suppose you will blame your parents.....
but then again ....are you not the person you wanted to be?
and again...if you are your own rendering.....
then you must be altogether happy with your handiwork
Thief
Rogue Theologian
your crutch (bold empty claims) no longer supports you
McBell
Unbound
I see you have once again fled to left field
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
I shall recite my catechism:
Who made me? Evolution made me.
Why did evolution make me? To worship Saint Dawkins.
McBell
Unbound
It is not any fault of mine you have nothing to support your claims but bold empty claims.
I am merely doing you the courtesy of pointing out a few facts...
that you offer nothing but bold empty claims
that there is no need to take any bold empty claim seriously
that your constant accusations of denial by others is nothing more than your sad attempt at distracting yourself from your own dogmatic denial.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
I also believe in evolution.I shall recite my catechism:
Who made me? Evolution made me.
Why did evolution make me? To worship Saint Dawkins.
God set it into motion.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Why? Was he bored?
McBell
Unbound
I am not using it as a crutch.
I am merely pointing out your inability to convince anyone outside the choir
Thief
Rogue Theologian
bored?....likely not.
but when you realize you have the entire universe to Yourself....
what else is there to do?
McBell
Unbound
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Are you saying:
"Bored? Likely not. But, when you realize you are bored, what else is there to do?"
Do you see the contradiction here?
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Knitting? Crossword puzzles?
jonathan180iq
Well-Known Member
Make 100,000 "Earths" and put on them every conceivable kind of living thing, separated by light years and eons of time... Only to then get way too involved in Middle Eastern religious politics and then damn everyone to Hell who doesn't automatically accept your weird interventions into the affairs of your creation?
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
The damning to hell is not as people think.
It (gehenna -lake of fire, etc.) technically can end in one's complete destruction, and technically can be an unpleasantness of indefinite duration -but that is not necessarily what it will be (and it is not now, and has not yet been) but.........
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Mal 3:2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire........
What will happen is that which is necessary to remove from us all of the things which have made this world imperfect.
If any are eventually completely destroyed -or kept separate while unwilling to do right -they would not be the sort you would want to have around, but I am not saying anyone will be completely destroyed or kept separate actually forever. Such is a possibility and an ultimatum, but none of it has not happened yet -it may be indefinite/forever and ever and ever, but dependent on a change of heart, etc.
I do no know if God is capable of turning every last one to repentance, peace, happiness, etc.
It may be so.
Everyone should be able to see that something needs to change -and that something is us.
Jerusalem is important, as it will eventually be the seat of a government of earth -then the universe as it is populated -the increase which will have no end.
Those called in this time will become kings and priests in that government....
Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
The rest will be raised to the judgment after the thousand years -which is not all doom and gloom.
When those called in this time are made immortal, and they reign/serve in the kingdom of God set up on earth, a remnant of humanity will have survived "great tribulation", and will repopulate the earth.
Those who are in the first resurrection when Christ returns are only the first to be made immortal.
Their experience in this life prepared them for their roles -and so it is with the experience of all who have lived, when they learn and willingly align with the necessary happiness-producing government of God.
Humans born after the first resurrection will have a much easier existence. The earth will be a wonderful place -though not everyone -being human -will be immediately or completely accepting of things.
They will not learn war anymore, and there will be no attempt at war until the end of the thousand years...
(except that attempt [against the "camp of the saints"] will be short and extremely unsuccessful.
Rev_20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
The judgment is after that attempt -so even they will be raised to it.)
...but that better situation will mean that those born in that time will not have experienced what we do -which translates to not being as prepared to govern.
Our experience will make us that which keeps others from needing to experience it -because a government will have been created which is actually for the good of all, effective, just, fair and powerful while being incorruptible.
I'm not certain if humans will continue to be born on earth and then made immortal indefinitely, but it is said that of the increase of the government of Christ there will be no end, and also that the heavens were formed to be inhabited.
Isa 45:17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.
Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
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Awkward Fingers
Omphaloskeptic
Could you be more specific?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
apparently you think there is.....go for it
it's rather boring dragging you through your own questions