Vision of Hell

[FFH]

Please read this message, given to Christiena, directly from Jesus Christ, today, August 6, 2009.

Prophecy Hell is real it exists already Received August 06, 2009

From the above video link...

Hell is Real it Exists Already

"Many will be disappointed and find out too late that they were not found worthy to enter into heaven but hell awaits them. I am the Creator of heaven and hell. It was specially prepared for My purpose.

Heaven is for My beloved children and hell for the disobedient. I am the only One who is able to throw you into hell or allow you through the narrow gate into heaven. Few will make it through the narrow gate, but many will enter through the wide gate into hell.

Do not take a chance by believing a lie, there is a heaven and hell, which exists already and there are many in hell already. Your destiny will be one of them. Now is the time to make sure with Me which one it will be.

I am the only One who decides where you will spend eternity. Life and death are in My hand. WHERE WILL YOU SPEND ETERNITY IF YOU DIE RIGHT NOW? Heaven or hell?

I don't want anyone to be thrown into hell but that all will come to Me in time and repent to have eternal life and be with Me in heaven. I AM HOLY.

Hell is not a place where you want to spend eternity. It is a place of ETERNAL PUNISHMENT not of pleasure. I warn but few pay attention. Many are deceived already and will not make it into heaven but will be thrown into hell for ETERNAL TORMENT. Where worms never die, and the fire is never quenched.

Take heed HELL IS REAL IT EXISTS ALREADY."

 

[Wandered Off]

You've just compared God to a RAPIST.

God is NOT a RAPIST, he's a LOVING, KIND, GENTLE, COMPASSIONATE person, who is ALL POWERFUL, ALL KNOWING and ALL PRESENT. He SEES ALL, KNOWS ALL and is in ALL THINGS and in ALL PLACES. His Spirit resides in the temples (bodies) that he has given us. If we DEFILE that temple (body), that temple (body) will be thrown into hell and burned.

God is a PERFECT JUDGE, he is PERFECTLY JUST and PERFECTLY MERCIFUL.

God has set before us two choices...

Heaven and Hell

This is sort of like saying I'm compassionate if I say, "Hey FFH, here is a delicious cookie. If you choose not to take the cookie, I'm going to beat you silly with this handy tire iron."

I think you might agree that hanging such an extreme consequence on a choice taints the decision process. Sure, you have "free will" to choose a beating, but what rational person would? This is a mockery of free will.

Most people (I know there are exceptions) don't "choose Hell." Most of us don't believe a legitimate choice is being offered, which means we can't be ethically considered to have chosen either option.

 

[slave2six]

Comparing Hell to prison is still an inacurate comparison. Those guys are well taken care of.

I agree. It's more like the Spanish Inquisition than anything else. Hmmm... Who was it again that instituted the Inquisitions? Oh! Right. Christians. I wonder why. Was it perhaps that they were simply imitating God and torturing people for their own good until they recanted or accepted the Christian doctrine? That would at least seem plausible and consistent with the over-all psychosis of the doctrine of Hell.

 

[DallasApple]

You've just compared God to a RAPIST.

God is NOT a RAPIST, he's a LOVING, KIND, GENTLE, COMPASSIONATE person, who is ALL POWERFUL, ALL KNOWING and ALL PRESENT. He SEES ALL, KNOWS ALL and is in ALL THINGS and in ALL PLACES. His Spirit resides in the temples (bodies) that he has given us. If we DEFILE that temple (body), that temple (body) will be thrown into hell and burned.

God is a PERFECT JUDGE, he's PERFECTLY JUST and PERFECTLY MERCIFUL.

God has set before us two choices...

Heaven and Hell

Take your pick, God is NOT FORCING anyone, we have our FREE AGENCY.

I choose heaven over hell...

It's NOT a complicated choice, but it's a HARD road, cuz it means GIVING up the THINGS OF THIS WORLD, in lue of a BETTER ONE.

I CHOOSE HEAVEN OVER THIS WORLD.

If a person chooses THIS WORLD and all the PLEASURES of THIS WORLD, over HEAVEN, then they've JUST said to God, I choose HELL, I choose to STAY in HELL.

No offense to you personally, this message is for EVERYONE, MYSELF INCLUDED.

Whatever..

Seems like a threat to me.

Love me or YOU will SUFER for eternity.YOU are the one that buys in to that...Not me.

Love

Dallas

 

[slave2six]

But then again we are children..and pretty needy ones at that. So I imagine we would do just about anything to gain approval.

I think that this is why people cling to Christianity. They claim to be children and so refuse to grow up and get past their neediness and move on to maturity.

 

[slave2six]

You've just compared God to a RAPIST.

Wow! You can pay attention to the discussion. Good on ya!

God is NOT a RAPIST, he's a LOVING, KIND, GENTLE, COMPASSIONATE person, who is ALL POWERFUL, ALL KNOWING and ALL PRESENT. He SEES ALL, KNOWS ALL and is in ALL THINGS and in ALL PLACES. His Spirit resides in the temples (bodies) that he has given us. If we DEFILE that temple (body), that temple (body) will be thrown into hell and burned.

If that's true, he would know who was going to spend eternity in Hell and who would not and yet he still creates those who will. How, exactly, is that "loving" again? I must have missed some definition of the word that you seem to be aware of. Seems to me the most merciful/loving thing to do would be to not create those who would end up in Hell.

 

[slave2six]

This is sort of like saying I'm compassionate if I say, "Hey FFH, here is a delicious cookie. If you choose not to take the cookie, I'm going to beat you silly with this handy tire iron."

I think you might agree that hanging such an extreme consequence on a choice taints the decision process. Sure, you have "free will" to choose a beating, but what rational person would? This is a mockery of free will.

Most people (I know there are exceptions) don't "choose Hell." Most of us don't believe a legitimate choice is being offered, which means we can't be ethically considered to have chosen either option.

FRUBALS to you my friend! That is spot-on!

 

[FFH]

This is sort of like saying I'm compassionate if I say, "Hey FFH, here is a delicious cookie. If you choose not to take the cookie, I'm going to beat you silly with this handy tire iron."

I think you might agree that hanging such an extreme consequence on a choice taints the decision process. Sure, you have "free will" to choose a beating, but what rational person would? This is a mockery of free will.

Most people (I know there are exceptions) don't "choose Hell." Most of us don't believe a legitimate choice is being offered, which means we can't be ethically considered to have chosen either option.

We're FREE to CHOOSE good OVER evil or evil OVER good, but we''re NOT FREE TO CHOOSE the CONSEQUENCES of our WRONG/EVIL CHOICES.

That's just the way it's set up.

The good will be seperated from the evil.

Would it be better that EVIL continues to MINGLE with GOOD, for much longer ???

No, for this will ONLY continue to BRING more BLOOD SHED and CHAOS into this ALREADY DARKENED WORLD.

The "wheat" WILL BE SEPERATED from the "chaff".

The "chaff" WILL BE thrown into the fire.

Matthew 3: 12
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

Luke 3: 17
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.

 

[DallasApple]

We're FREE to CHOOSE good OVER evil or evil OVER good, but we''re NOT FREE TO CHOOSE the CONSEQUENCES of our WRONG/EVIL CHOICES.

That's just the way it's set up.

The good will be seperated from the evl.

would it be better that EVIL continues to MINGLE with GOOD ???

No, for this will ONLY continue to BRING more BLOOD SHED and CHAOS into this ALREADY DARK WORLD.

The "wheat" WILL BE SEPERATED from the "chaff".

The "chaff" WILL BE thrown into the fire.

Matthew 3: 12
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

Luke 3: 17
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.

YOU are SAFE!

Love

Dallas

 

[Phasmid]

"Many will be disappointed and find out too late that they were not found worthy to enter into heaven but hell awaits them. I am the Creator of heaven and hell. It was specially prepared for My purpose.

Heaven is for My beloved children and hell for the disobedient. I am the only One who is able to throw you into hell or allow you through the narrow gate into heaven. Few will make it through the narrow gate, but many will enter through the wide gate into hell.

Do not take a chance by believing a lie, there is a heaven and hell, which exists already and there are many in hell already. Your destiny will be one of them. Now is the time to make sure with Me which one it will be.

I am the only One who decides where you will spend eternity. Life and death are in My hand. WHERE WILL YOU SPED ETERNITY IF YOU DIE RIGHT NOW? Heaven or hell?

I don't want anyone to be thrown into hell but that all will come to Me in time and repent to have eternal life and be with Me in heaven. I AM HOLY.

Hell is not a place where you want to spend eternity. It is a place of ETERNAL PUNISHMENT not of pleasure. I warn but few pay attention. Many are deceived already and will not make it into heaven but will be thrown into hell for ETERNAL TORMENT. Where worms never die, and the fire is never quenched.

Take heed HELL IS REAL IT EXISTS ALREADY."

Is that meant to be quoting god himself? If so, he's really lost his edge. That was a crap speech.

 

[FFH]

Whatever..

Seems like a threat to me.

Love me or YOU will SUFER for eternity.YOU are the one that buys in to that...Not me.

Love

Dallas

Jesus is NOT threatening, as a rapist or killer would be, he's WARNING us to be AWARE of what will happen to us if we listen to satan's voice, rather than his voice.

Jesus is the "good shepherd" who will GENTLY lead us to paradise.

Satan is the fox that hunts, kills and drags his prey to hell.

 

[Wandered Off]

Jesus is NOT threatening, as rapist or killer would, he's WARNING of us to be aware of what will happen to us if we listen to satan's voice, rather than his.

I have seen the comparison of Hell as some kind of "natural consequence" rather than a punishment, but I never bought it...

Suppose I tell my daughter she will be grounded for standing on the furniture. She gets up on a chair and falls off, getting a bruise in the process.... Grounding is my punishment, while the bruise is a natural consequence. Since I didn't create gravity and the laws of physics, all I can do is warn her of those. My punishment, on the other hand, is an entirely separate act that requires will to be carried out. There is a clear distinction.

From my perspective, then, maybe Hell is a natural consequence, since I didn't create Hell. Assuming God created Hell on purpose, though, it's a willful act separate from any offense - therefore punishment in my book.

 

[FFH]

I have seen the comparison of Hell as some kind of "natural consequence" rather than a punishment, but I never bought it...

Suppose I tell my daughter she will be grounded for standing on the furniture. She gets up on a chair and falls off, getting a bruise in the process.... Grounding is my punishment, while the bruise is a natural consequence. Since I didn't create gravity and the laws of physics, all I can do is warn her of those. My punishment, on the other hand, is an entirely separate act that requires will to be carried out. There is a clear distinction.

From my perspective, then, maybe Hell is a natural consequence, since I didn't create Hell. Assuming God created Hell on purpose, though, it's a willful act separate from any offense - therefore punishment in my book.

It's the LAW of JUSTICE that punishes spirits in hell.

It's the LAW of MERCY that saves, exalts and resurrects our immortal bodies and places them in paradise.

The LAW of JUSTICE hangs over the UNREPENTANT

The LAW of MERCY saves and exalts those who REPENT (TURN FROM SIN).

 

[slave2six]

YOU are SAFE!

Really? Did you see his comments about John Lennon and his whole diatribe on Barak Obama in which he stated that the President is still alive because not enough people are praying for his death? These are not the words of someone who is "Christ-like" at all. I'm not too sure it is well to falsely comfort him that he is safe whilst he is yet living unlike the Person he claims to serve.

 

[slave2six]

Jesus is the "good shepherd" who will GENTLY lead us to paradise. Satan is the fox that hunts, kills and drags his prey to hell.

And which of the two actually created Hell in the first place...?

 

[Andal]

There are indeed consequences to actions and beings can end up in hellish states for a length of time but this whole concept of eternal damnation or heaven only for Christians idea makes zero sense.

I have heard time and time again people who believe in this, calling God a loving father or a merciful judge. Well consider this, a parent punishes their child for misbehaving by torturing the child. Guess what. that parent goes to prison for child abuse. Now a judge sentences some one to prison for murder, he is fair. If he sends that criminal to some torture chamber out of a gore movie, that judge is neither merciful nor fair and in fact would be in a lot of trouble. So if we hold humans to this standard, why isn't God held to the same standard.

Can someone please tell me how this is merciful or just either- God creates a soul and yes gives them free will. The thing is though, God is supposed to be omniscient so he has to know at the time of the soul's creation whether it is destined to heaven or hell. If he still knows the soul is going to spend eternity in hell, is it merciful to still create him. The soul will have 80 years or so of human life than an eternity of misery.

Now if you want to claim that free will absolutely plays into it and God doesn't know what we'll choose, consider this. God creates souls and places them on earth. He erases their memories of him and heaven and lets them start with a clean slate. With no memory of God, the said soul is exposed to all sorts of life experiences, some good, some bad. The soul is also exposed to all manner of belief and non belief systems. God doesn't directly audibly speak to the person but instead leaves a group of texts from thousands of years ago. Now bear in mind that that group of text is one among many. So the soul must not only live a good life but choose the correct group of religious scriptures. And he's supposed to do this with no concrete proof of God's existence. Oh and to muck it up even more, God gives the person critical faculties that allow him to explain much of what happens in the physical world through scientific, not theological explanations. Then the person dies and the soul returns to God. God then decides that even though the soul had no memory of the ground rules of life and made some wrong decisions, that soul who God loves so dearly, deserves horrific torment. But don't forget God loves you. He loves you so much that even if you repent at the time of judgment, it doesn't matter, your fate is sealed. This loving all powerful God is powerless to stop the soul from being tormented because it chose to call God by the wrong name, did the wrong ritual, or failed to understand the consequences of harming others in life.

This all seems fair to you?

I'm sorry but they only way God and truly be loving and merciful while maintaining a cosmic balance is to allow for a system that does not involve eternity in hell.

 

[Phasmid]

This sums up my thoughts on all your topics, FFH.

"Men fear death as children fear to go in the dark; and as that natural fear in children is increased with tales, so is the other." - Francis Bacon

Bye

 

[slave2six]

People project onto others, what THEY THEMSELVES are EXPERIENCING.

That's what he said. You are projecting onto us "the pathetic ramblings of a man caught up in his own delusional fears." Phasmid has been projecting reasoned discussion. I prefer the latter, although it is amusing watching you go mental as well.

 

[FFH]

This sums up my thoughts on all your topics, FFH.

"Men fear death as children fear to go in the dark; and as that natural fear in children is increased with tales, so is the other." - Francis Bacon

Bye

Like I said earlier, people tend to project onto others, what THEY THEMSELVES are experiencing.

I have faith and hope, not fear, love and joy, not hate and anger.

 

[slave2six]

Like I said earlier, people tend to project onto others, what THEY THEMSELVES are experiencing.

I have faith and hope not fear, love and joy not hate and anger.

I have reason, peace, good sense, and a hostess cupcake, not to mention a hot wife, wicked-cool children, and a lifetime-supply of caring from each. And of course my friends in the RF. So, if I am projecting those things, then SWEET!