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Vision of Hell

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FFH

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Pointing out the REALITIES and HORRORS of HELL has NOTHING to do with hate, anger or psychosis, but it has EVERYTHING to do with LOVE, a STRONG love for others.

I'm educating and WARNING others of the REALITIES of HELL, because I LOVE much, not because I HATE PEOPLE or am PSYCHOTIC.

Again, you're protecting your OWN experiences, current feelings and conditions onto another.
 

s.gal83

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It is hard to tell if they are telling the truth or making it up. I am now an ex-christian. But when I was still a christian, I actually have a dream of Jesus coming to me. He is all in light.

Now that I am not a christian, I still occassionally have dream of God speaking to me. I even had a dream of Satan speaking to me.

But in the end, they are just mere dreams. Just as these visions of the youths are mere visions. They are all the products of our overly active imaginative minds.
 

rageoftyrael

Veritas
Pretty much, s.gal83. Of course, FFH, the main flaw of your entire premise is that if god was actually an omnibenevolent god, why would there be such a thing as hell? Is it not punishment enough to be denied heaven, like a limbo? Or merely making us cease to exist(as atheists think is going to happen anyway)?

Hell, like the rest of christianity, if you ask me, was made to scare people into believing. Which is pathetic. If your god is real, and the believers claim he is all loving, how could you then possibly claim that you will burn in hell, being tortured for all of eternity, merely for not believing in what is a preposterous claim to some.

If i live a good life, and am a good person, why would god condemn me simply cause i followed the logical route of disbelief? I'm sure i'm not saying anything new, as i'm sure many have said this before, but i think this is food for thought.
 

slave2six

Substitious
Pointing out the REALITIES and HORRORS of HELL has NOTHING to do with hate, anger or psychosis, but it has EVERYTHING to do with LOVE, a STRONG love for others.
Define "reality." You seem to have a weird definition for that as well as for "love."

Do you drag your children down to the red light district and walk among the prostitutes and drug addicts and make them smell the stink of booze and vomit as a warning to your kids too? Maybe you should show them some videos on what STDs look like so that they can see the genital warts and whatnot as a warning against promiscuity. Or perhaps you should also force them to watch Saw (which, like Hell, is also fictitious) so that they will have a clearer idea of what it could be like to be hacked to death. All of these fall within the confines of what you are doing here.
 

slave2six

Substitious
Is it not punishment enough to be denied heaven, like a limbo?
I still fail to see the need for punishment in the Christian context at all. If Christians are going to be changed into sinless beings then why can't everyone be changed? Indeed, I fail to see why a loving deity would create a faulty product such as the Christians claim that we are. Wouldn't that make God something of an apprentice rather than a master craftsman?
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
I still fail to see the need for punishment in the Christian context at all. If Christians are going to be changed into sinless beings then why can't everyone be changed? Indeed, I fail to see why a loving deity would create a faulty product such as the Christians claim that we are. Wouldn't that make God something of an apprentice rather than a master craftsman?
I agree with this.
 

gwk230

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I still fail to see the need for punishment in the Christian context at all. If Christians are going to be changed into sinless beings then why can't everyone be changed? Indeed, I fail to see why a loving deity would create a faulty product such as the Christians claim that we are. Wouldn't that make God something of an apprentice rather than a master craftsman?


What purpose would there be to create anything at all if all you did was to create a bunch of goody two shoe zombies?
 

slave2six

Substitious
What purpose would there be to create anything at all if all you did was to create a bunch of goody two shoe zombies?
Why do you assume that a being that is designed well and is unable to cause suffering would be a zombie? Ever own a puppy? Would you call that a zombie? Why could there not be rational beings who have hearts that are innocent and do not desire to have power over one another? It is only because of cynicism that one would go to the extreme of assuming that innocence = mindless.
 

FFH

Veteran Member
Only by having to read that many links (which, no doubt, is hell).
This second part of the opening post ISN'T about hell. This link below is Jesus speaking on how the thoughts of man are not the thoughts of God.

I posted it because people who read these testimonies of hell may need to balance it out by listening to HOW to AVOID hell.

What good is it to say there is a hell and describe every aspect of it, if no teachings are given on how to ESCAPE hell.

This is a DEMON buster, while listening to this link below, I saw a dark/black figure leave the room.

IT'S A REAL DEMON BUSTER !!!!!

These truly are the words of Jesus Christ.


Part 1 The Wisdom of God and The Wisdom of this World
Part 2 The Wisdom of God and The Wisdom of this World
Part 3 The Wisdom of God and The Wisdom of this World
Part 4 The Wisdom of God and The Wisdom of this World
Part 5 The Wisdom of God and The Wisdom of this World
Part 6 The Wisdom of God and The Wisdom of this World
Part 7 The Wisdom of God and The Wisdom of this World
Part 8 The Wisdom of God and The Wisdom of this World
Part 9 The Wisdom of God and The Wisdom of this World
Part 10 The Wisdom of God and The Wisdom of this World
Part 11 The Wisdom of God and The Wisdom of this World
Part 12 The Wisdom of God and The Wisdom of this World
 
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mickiel

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This is a DEMON buster, while listening to this link below, I saw a dark/black figure leave the room.

IT'S A REAL DEMON BUSTER !!!!!

These truly are the words of Jesus Christ.



The figure you saw was the Darkness that envolpes your mind and beliefs. Its busted up all the teachings of Christ on Forgiveness and Grace.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member


The figure you saw was the Darkness that envolpes your mind and beliefs. Its busted up all the teachings of Christ on Forgiveness and Grace.

Peace.[/quote]


A good example of the Darkness that wraps your mind is this lily white picture of Christ. Jesus was not a white man, he was middle eastern and more than likely a Dark Skinned man.

Peace.
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
A good example of the Darkness that wraps your mind is this lily white picture of Christ. Jesus was not a white man, he was middle eastern and more than likely a Dark Skinned man.

Peace.
Oh but don't you know, in Heaven the pure are turned White:foot:
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Oh but don't you know, in Heaven the pure are turned White:foot:


Your half hearted attempt at elevating " White", is meaningless to me. The bible actually describes how Jesus now looks in Revelations 1:13-15. His " Hair" is white like wool or snow. Thats the color of his hair, so we know he has hair. In vs. 15, " His " Feet" were like " Burnished Bronze", or dark brownish in color, meaning his form , or the color of his personage is Dark Bronze. Bronze is darker than Gold, and looks " Nothing like white."

Now this is how the bible describes Christ, and more than Likely, God is the same color in appearence. Dark Bronze. This is what the word of God states, so the word of white people is meaningless on the subject.

Peace.
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
Your half hearted attempt at elevating " White", is meaningless to me. The bible actually describes how Jesus now looks in Revelations 1:13-15. His " Hair" is white like wool or snow. Thats the color of his hair, so we know he has hair. In vs. 15, " His " Feet" were like " Burnished Bronze", or dark brownish in color, meaning his form , or the color of his personage is Dark Bronze. Bronze is darker than Gold, and looks " Nothing like white."

Now this is how the bible describes Christ, and more than Likely, God is the same color in appearence. Dark Bronze. This is what the word of God states, so the word of white people is meaningless on the subject.

Peace.
I wasn't serious with that post. None of FFH's thread deserves my seriousness. It was a joke based on what he himself has said before. You do understand what a joke is don't you?
 
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