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War: the Pope says that mankind is in danger; strive for peace

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I respect what you believe in. :)
Just let me tell you I only trust my own eyes, (the evidence) and I don't tend to trust the élites.

Because you haven't seen it. You have read about it and seen pictures. Just as me. So in effect we believe in different narratives. That is as neutral as I can put it.
 

vulcanlogician

Well-Known Member
That is not what fitness is really about in the end. It is a part of it, but the common factor is energy and material to continue the reproduction of the genome.
You and I are in that nothing but a part of series of reproduction of genome with variations/mutations.

Nothing but?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Because you haven't seen it. You have read about it and seen pictures. Just as me. So in effect we believe in different narratives. That is as neutral as I can put it.
Within the walls of an international penal courtroom, narratives are as viable as the wind.
Only the evidence matters.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
There is diplomacy, there are hundreds of lawyers who have studied international law, diplomacy and all the juridical instruments suitable to make the contending parties negotiate. Or the belligerent parties.

That is the preferred path. But when one side is committed to darkness and will use force when others don't submit to their bullying and threats, then war becomes inevitable. Dark forces must be defeated.
 

vulcanlogician

Well-Known Member
In the biology sense we are nothing but the result of the reproduction of the fittest genome and a wessel for the reproduction.

Agreed.

In an explanatory sense, if someone asked "Why do I exist?"... I would agree with your answer.

But if someone asks "Who or what am I?" Your answer is fairly incomplete.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Agreed.

In an explanatory sense, if someone asked "Why do I exist?"... I would agree with your answer.

But if someone asks "Who or what am I?" Your answer is fairly incomplete.

Correct, in a limited sense. In the end the "I" is the effect of the process in biological terms. Unless you believe that the "I" is more.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
That is the preferred path. But when one side is committed to darkness and will use force when others don't submit to their bullying and threats, then war becomes inevitable. Dark forces must be defeated.
If there are countries who want to join the war, good for them.
As long as they don't drag other countries who have decided to stay out of it.
 

vulcanlogician

Well-Known Member
Correct, in a limited sense. In the end the "I" is the effect of the process in biological terms. Unless you believe that the "I" is more.

I don't want to make any outrageous claims about what "I" is. I'm pretty sure you see that.

It's just that you could reduce anything to its causal history and call it a day. But you lose something.

A biologist could explain poetry in terms of natural selection. "It serves social purposes" etc. And if someone asked for a natural account of poetry, I think a biologist could produce an accurate explanation: "It is a human behavior that created social bonds and allowed certain ideas to be transmitted through societies..." That's a pretty accurate definition of poetry in one sense.

But if some one simply asks: "What is poetry?" And your answer is, "a human behavior that created social bonds and allowed certain ideas to be transmitted through societies" that answer is incomplete.... even though it is in no way inaccurate.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I don't want to make any outrageous claims about what "I" is. I'm pretty sure you see that.

It's just that you could reduce anything to its causal history and call it a day. But you lose something.

A biologist could explain poetry in terms of natural selection. "It serves social purposes" etc. And if someone asked for a natural account of poetry, I think a biologist could produce an accurate explanation: "It is a human behavior that created social bonds and allowed certain ideas to be transmitted through societies..." That's a pretty accurate definition of poetry in one sense.

But if some one simply asks: "What is poetry?" And your answer is, "a human behavior that created social bonds and allowed certain ideas to be transmitted through societies" that answer is incomplete.... even though it is in no way inaccurate.

Come clean and explain what is actually missing with specific examples.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
No, you wouldn't do what you have signed up to. What would happen then I don't know. But ultimately you could be thrown out of Nato and properly the EU. That could be it.
That would be absolutely understandable. But we cannot violate the article 11 of our Constitution. That clearly states that international disputes can be solved exclusively with peace and diplomacy and not with war.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
That would be absolutely understandable. But we cannot violate the article 11 of our Constitution. That clearly states that international disputes can be solves exclusively with peace and diplomacy and not with war.

Okay, then just the correct thing and leave Nato. If that is the case, you can't be a part of Nato. You are commiting a kind of freud.
 
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