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McBell

Unbound
It's funny that people are arguing that's it's okay as long as a nine year old doesn't think she was abused or raped. The point is - and I don't care what time your from - if you're a grown man who is sexually attracted to a nine year old, there's something wrong with you.
It is even funnier that people are arguing that merely being nine years old automatically means that she is being raped.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
It is even funnier that people are arguing that merely being nine years old automatically means that she is being raped.

I don't know if it's funnier, but I find it a somewhat irrelevant argument, despite the fact that it is probably true most of the time in practice.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Are you a man?

It's so easy to take a point of view when you do not understand the other side of the argument.

Yeah, as a man, I understand the side of the argument that I would have to seriously be fragged up in the head to find myself sexually attracted to a nine year old, and then find a way to rationalize pursuing a sexual relationship with a child.
 

krsnaraja

Active Member
It's funny that people are arguing that's it's okay as long as a nine year old doesn't think she was abused or raped. The point is - and I don't care what time your from - if you're a grown man who is sexually attracted to a nine year old, there's something wrong with you.


There are nine year olds who are already menstruating. & with voluptuous bodies.
 

Photonic

Ad astra!
Yeah, as a man, I understand the side of the argument that I would have to seriously be fragged up in the head to find myself sexually attracted to a nine year old, and then find a way to rationalize pursuing a sexual relationship with a child.

Nice try.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
There are nine year olds who are already menstruating. & with voluptuous bodies.

The vast majority aren't menstruating, and I doubt the few that are would have anything close to a "voluptuous" body. No matter the few extreme cases where a nine year old is somewhat developed, they will still obviously appear as more of a child - both physically, and even moreso intellectually and emotionally - and thus, any grown man who is sexually attracted to a nine year old is still messed up in the head.

I realize people will bend over backwards and make arguments in defense of religion that they wouldn't think of making in other circumstances, but people have abandoned all reason when they jump through hoops to try to rationalize an adult man having sex with a nine year old girl. Get real people.
 

McBell

Unbound
I don't know if it's funnier, but I find it a somewhat irrelevant argument, despite the fact that it is probably true most of the time in practice.
Of course you think it irrelevant.
People who hold to the BELIEF that being nine years old automatically means rape will.
 

krsnaraja

Active Member
The vast majority aren't menstruating, and I doubt the few that are would have anything close to a "voluptuous" body. No matter the few extreme cases where a nine year old is somewhat developed, they will still obviously appear as more of a child - both physically, and even moreso intellectually and emotionally - and thus, any grown man who is sexually attracted to a nine year old is still messed up in the head.

I realize people will bend over backwards and make arguments in defense of religion that they wouldn't think of making in other circumstances, but people have abandoned all reason when they jump through hoops to try to rationalize an adult man having sex with a nine year old girl. Get real people.


Aisha did not belong to the vast majority who were menstruating. Our youngest daughter had her menarch when she was nine years old. & she already looked like grown up.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Of course you think it irrelevant.
People who hold to the BELIEF that being nine years old automatically means rape will.

I'm not really sure how to parse your response, but of course I think it's irrelevant because it's not germane to my primary point or argument I'm expressing in this thread.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
The vast majority aren't menstruating, and I doubt the few that are would have anything close to a "voluptuous" body. No matter the few extreme cases where a nine year old is somewhat developed, they will still obviously appear as more of a child - both physically, and even moreso intellectually and emotionally - and thus, any grown man who is sexually attracted to a nine year old is still messed up in the head.

I realize people will bend over backwards and make arguments in defense of religion that they wouldn't think of making in other circumstances, but people have abandoned all reason when they jump through hoops to try to rationalize an adult man having sex with a nine year old girl. Get real people.

I think you're focusing so much on the numbers that you're forgetting that nature doesn't go by them.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
I think you're ignoring the number so much, you're abandoning any semblance of common sense.

Throwing someone's statement back at them is just a way to demonstrate a lack of a real argument. Whether or not that was your intention, it's what you demonstrated.

A 9 year old girl starting puberty is equal to a 13 year old girl starting puberty. A 20 year old girl who, for some reason, is stuck in a pre-pubescent stage is to be treated as a pre-pubescent girl in terms of sexuality.
 

krsnaraja

Active Member
Throwing someone's statement back at them is just a way to demonstrate a lack of a real argument. Whether or not that was your intention, it's what you demonstrated.

A 9 year old girl starting puberty is equal to a 13 year old girl starting puberty. A 20 year old girl who, for some reason, is stuck in a pre-pubescent stage is to be treated as a pre-pubescent girl in terms of sexuality.


This reminder please. Below 18 if you have sex with them is what we call Statutory Rape.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Throwing someone's statement back at them is just a way to demonstrate a lack of a real argument. Whether or not that was your intention, it's what you demonstrated.

Actually, it's a device I often employ to mirror someone's argument which is meant to highlight the weakness of their statement. But that's neither here nor there.

A 9 year old girl starting puberty is equal to a 13 year old girl starting puberty. A 20 year old girl who, for some reason, is stuck in a pre-pubescent stage is to be treated as a pre-pubescent girl in terms of sexuality.

I'm not sure if you fully read my previous posts, but this is where you're wrong. You're oversimplifying sexuality to merely sexual biological development. First, regardless of how far through puberty a nine year old may be, there is necessarily a limit to that sexual development at that age. They will not appear as a fully developed women. Additionally, and more importantly, a nine year old can only have a certain level of emotional, intellectual, and other physical development. The most "developed" nine year old will still obviously be a child to any adult. I don't know how many nine year olds you've been around lately, but there is no mistaking that even the most mature, developed nine year old is still clearly a child.
 
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