Was Islam spread by the sword?

[Looncall]

Christianity founded modern science. Most of the actual fields themselves were founded by Christians, and Jews. If you subtracted Jews and Christian contributions from science there would no longer be any shoulders for the most modern scientists to stand upon. If Galileo, keeper, Newton, Pascal and a thousand others just as vital had not done science what would modern science be built upon?

Of course the early scientists were christian, at least officially. So was just about everyone around them.

If anything, christianity per se opposed science rather than promoted it.

You and the muslims we are hearing from are singing the same apologetic tune.

 

[Looncall]

Islamic civilization was the turning point from the age of ignorance to the modern civilization.

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Muslim civilisation: the pioneers of Science and Technology - YouTube

Too bad muslims later opted for ignorance and superstition.

 

[outhouse]

Too bad muslims later opted for ignorance and superstition.

And stayed that way.


Once the proud center of education and knowledge, gone forever.

 

[YmirGF]

And stayed that way.


Once the proud center of education and knowledge, gone forever.

Even then, they were more custodians of knowledge collected from other sources they had rampaged. At least they had the sense to save any books among the collected booty.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Your ignorance in the quran is overwhelming.

If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.(4:3)

This is a conditional marriage and in a case that you have to care and raise the orphans which is regarded as a good deed and as to save them from poverty and exploitation.

If in a case that he can't do it himself and in need for a woman to help him raising the orphans then he is allowed to marry till 4 of women for raising the orphans that he can afford and if he can't deal with those women justily then better if he could hire women (right hand possess) to do the job of care to the orphans.

I am teaching the Koran O Sidika--
You mix in verses
The word will not do justice between the women you keen by one
This has the last word of the last debate
That will not do justice among women between the Khmutir that Atadloa -
This contrasts from the Koran
Because of this verse
And Other Verses
Trend encourages marriage and the direction of another Aichdja on polygamy
Yes, not justice between wives van that you keen to Atadloa by oneBut this makes the Koran clearly contradictory
This is one of the big problems of the Koran
I speak with you in mind Iraq Attina rule bumped Hussein
Was to marry a second wife requires the consent of the first wife
This was justified by the application, which speak kindly by
But I have forgotten figures of materials Status Law Alchkah
But here in the Koran encourages two-way direction and the direction of the Tadeddalzojat Aichdja on polygamy
Yes this Hih
But the strongest trend that is likely to polygamySo here, I tell you
Do you recognize the book of the three provisions for one subject
One of them opposed to the other
Refer to the Quranic verse
See these verdicts
1 encourages polygamy full --alabahh
2 is slain Halal Maht in sexual intercourse without a marriage contract queens right
P trend that he says he can not be justice among women
And encourages monogamy
Have you ever thought of these contradictory verdicts
If you Law
The three provisions on a single topic These are the fruits of the dialogue which emerged as a result of the task
The Koran is contradictory in its provisions
The result is the most important do you think that this is the word of God says
As you say, and care for orphans and any last words
Islam rejects adoptions
And you also said that the Koran polygamy just for widows
Do you have children early orphanage
I think that Tbrerk to polygamy illogical

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Of course the early scientists were christian, at least officially. So was just about everyone around them.

If anything, christianity per se opposed science rather than promoted it.

You and the muslims we are hearing from are singing the same apologetic tune.

Science is includes all human beings
And humanity is producing scientists
From the beginning of human history
It is the right of every group that boasts as provided for humanitarian
Europe made ​​for a lot of humanitarian sciences
America pushed the wheel of evolution and Japan was distinct in Tbdaat men and with making China
But what gave the Muslims of the worldIslam destroyed the civilizations of the Middle East, including the Assyrian, Chaldean and Alqronah and Amazigh and Berbers, and through Msaath did not submit to the humanitarian anything useful to humanity
Who came by the teachings of Islam is to make human static and this did not provide for salmon Aaalm only wars and invasions
They said the occupation of Alkstinih
Nameal -ftohat

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Muslims reject To say that Islam spread by the sword
-This evolutionary history of Islam
When Muhammad was in Mecca did not believe in it but few people
In Mecca, Islam has not been able to spread
But in Medina after Mohammed said that states fighting Islam spread quickly
Muhammad was a military leader leading the fight
And also the division of the spoils
So you Medina the first point for the start and spread of Islam
Do Muslims deny this factAfter Muhammad died, leaving people the religion of Muhammad
That was the wars of apostasy, led by the first Caliph Abu Bakr
And where the blood
And then went out of Islam Find the spoils and control to Iraq, Persia, Egypt and other
So was the beginning of Islam by the sword

 

[FearGod]

Even then, they were more custodians of knowledge collected from other sources they had rampaged. At least they had the sense to save any books among the collected booty.

So the secret behind the golden age of Islam was the books which were among the collected booty which others kept it as remnants of ancient times.

 

[paarsurrey]

Was Islam spread by the sword?

No.

For example:

Spread of Islam in Mauritius:

Muslims constitute over 17.3% of Mauritius population.[1] Muslims of Mauritius are of Indian descent, however there is a growing number of creole converts to Islam. The vernacular language is Urdu/Hindi.

The 1968 constitution of Mauritius recognized four religious categories: Hindus, Muslims, Sino-Mauritians, and the general population. According to a 1989 estimate of a total population of 1,080,000, Muslims constituted about 16 percent (179,280).[citation needed]

Approximately 95 percent are Sunni Muslims,[2] having an understanding of the Urdu language. Within the Muslim community, there are three distinct ethnics that exist, notably the Memons and the Surtees (who are rich merchants who came from Kutch and Surat province of Gujarat in India), then the "Hindi Calcattias" who came to Mauritius as indentured labourer from Bihar. Humeirah, a novel by Sabah Carrim is a story about the Memons and the "Hindi Calcattias". It is set on the island of Mauritius.

Other languages include Bhojpuri, Gujarati, and Tamil. Among the Shi'a minority, some have their origins in different parts of South Asia, while others are adherents of the Shia Ismaili sect from East Africa. The majority of Shias are Ithna 'ashariyah with small Ismaili sect.

The first purpose-built Mosque in Mauritius is the Camp des Lascars Mosque in around 1805. It is now officially known as the Al-Aqsa Mosque. The Jummah Mosque in Port Louis was built in the 1850s and is often described as one of the most beautiful religious building in Mauritius by the Ministry of Tourism's guide. There are many smaller mosques in the towns and villages. The highest concentration of Muslims is found in the capital Port Louis, predominantly in the Plaine Verte, Ward IV, Valle Pitotand Camp Yoloff neighborhood.

Most people of the Muslim community follows the Sunni Belief. However there are also the Shia, Tablighi Jamaat, and a minority of Salafi and Ahmadi. The Islamic Authority recognized by the Government is Jummah Mosque Port Louis.

Islam in Mauritius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't see any sword in spread of Islam in Mauritius.

Do you see any? Please

Regards

 

[Shad]

Before Islam people were in the age of ignorance and the dark ages and during Islam the world changed.

Homo sapiens were here on earth since 200,000 years and significant changes happened shortly after the born of Islam.

History is the best teller and not your opinion and false logic.

China was in a cultural golden age under the Tang dynasty. India was experiencing a cultural golden age as well. One which become synonymous with the ideal golden age in the region. I could easily put forward the idea that secularism has produced more progress in 150 years or less than any religion ever has. We have renewable energy, global transportation and communication systems, limited interplanetary travel, etc.

 

[Looncall]

China was in a cultural golden age under the Tang dynasty. India was experiencing a cultural golden age as well. One which become synonyms with the ideal golden age in the region. I could easily put forward the idea that secularism has produced more progress in 150 years or less than any religion ever has. We have renewable energy, global transportation and communication systems, limited interplanetary travel, etc.

It's odd that muslims keep coming up with claims that are at odds with history. I wonder if finding that others do not respect their religion is prompting some sort of desperate defensiveness.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

It's odd that muslims keep coming up with claims that are at odds with history. I wonder if finding that others do not respect their religion is prompting some sort of desperate defensiveness.

The right of defense -
Every human being has the right to defend
When a man stabbing attack you in your teachings, you have a right to defense is also
The Islam of Bidya Ncharh attacked all religions and attacked all humanity
It is the right of those religions to defend itself also
Including Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism and Buddhism
And because the Muslim does not say the truth
We are here to help him
Help him to look to the fact that religion is seen as the sword that in hand of mhamed and his followers to humanity
And to this day the sword is the same and the names have changed and evolved and become rifles and bombs, rockets and suicide

 

[Shad]

It's odd that muslims keep coming up with claims that are at odds with history. I wonder if finding that others do not respect their religion is prompting some sort of desperate defensiveness.

It part of their doctrine that Arabia was in an age of ignorance before Islam. The question is how accurate the claim is. It certainly doesn't apply to every area such as Yemen or North Arabia which had prolonged contact via trade or colonization.

 

[Aupmanyav]

No the woman isn't responsible to feed her children, it is his responsibility and the father will keep the relation with his own children and the mother as well, that is a normal thing to happen regardless of religion, no one will accept his child to live in poor condition while he is rich, that doesn't make any sense.

"In 1932, Shah Bano, a Muslim woman was married to Mohammed Ahmad Khan, an affluent and well-known advocate Indore, Madhya Pradesh and had five children from the marriage. After 14 years, Khan took a younger woman as second wife and after years of living with both wives, he threw Shah Bano who was then aged 62 years and her five children out. In April 1978, when Khan stopped giving her INR 200 ($3.33 at today's rate) per month he had apparently promised, claiming that she had no means to support herself and her children, she filed a petition at a local court in Indore, against her husband under section 125 of the Code of Criminal Procedure, asking him for a maintenance amount of INR 500 for herself and her children. On November 1978 her husband gave an irrevocable talaq (divorce) to her which is his prerogative under Islamic Law and took up the defence that hence Bano had ceased to be his wife and therefore he was under no obligation to provide maintenance for her as except prescribed under the Islamic law which was in total INR 5,400. In August 1979, the local court directed Khan to pay a sum of INR 25 per month to Bano by way of maintenance. On 1 July 1980, on a revisional application of Bano, High Court of Madhya Pradesh enhanced the amount of maintenance to INR 179.20 per month. Khan then filed a petition to appeal before the Supreme Court claiming that Shah Bano is not his responsibility anymore because Mr. Khan had a second marriage which is also permitted under Islamic Law."
Mohd. Ahmed Khan v. Shah Bano Begum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The constitutional validity of the Muslim Women (Protection of Rights on Divorce) Act, 1986 was challenged before the Supreme Court in Danial Latifi & Anr v. Union Of India by Daniel Latifi who was the lawyer of Shah Bano in the Shah Bano case. The Supreme Court tried to maintain a balancing act, attempting to uphold Muslim women's rights without addressing the constitutionality of gender and religious discrimination in personal law. Court reiterated the validity of the Shah Bano judgment. The Muslim Personal Law Board, an intervenor, questioned the authority of the court to interpret religious texts.

The Court concluded that the Act does not, in fact, preclude maintenance for divorced Muslim women, and that Muslin men must pay spousal support until such time as the divorced wife remarries. However the Court held that if the Act accorded Muslim divorcees unequal rights to spousal support compared with the provisions of the secular law under section 125 of the Criminal Procedure Code, then the law would in fact, be unconstitutional. Further the Supreme Court construed the statutory provision in such a manner that it does not fall foul of articles 14 and 15 of the Constitution of India. The provision in question is Section 3(1)(a) of the Muslim Women (Protection of Rights on Divorce) Act, 1986 which states that "a reasonable and fair provision and maintenance to be made and paid to her within the iddat period by her former husband". The Court held this provision means that reasonable and fair provision and maintenance is not limited for the iddat period (as evidenced by the use of word "within" and not "for"). It extends for the entire life of the divorced wife until she remarries.
Mohd. Ahmed Khan v. Shah Bano Begum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[paarsurrey]

Was Islam spread by the sword?

No.

For example:

Spread of Islam in Mozambique:[1]

Islam in Mozambique is the religion of approximately 17.9% of the total population.[1] The vast majority of MozambicanMuslims are Sunni belonging to Shafi school of jurisprudence, although some Ismaili Shiite Muslims are also registered. The Muslims consists primarily of indigenous Mozambicans, citizens of South Asian (Indian and Pakistani) descent, and a very small number of North African and Middle Eastern immigrants.
Pre-colonial history

Mozambique has long historic ties with the Muslim world. Initially by way of Sufi merchants, mostly from Yemen, and centuries after through a more organized system of coastal trading cities, more heavily influenced by the Ibadi Muslims from Oman along the shores of Eastern Africa.
The arrival of the Arab trade in Mozambique dates to the fourth Hijri century when Muslims established small emirates on the coast of East Africa. Links between Islam and the chiefly clans in Mozambique have existed since the eighth century, when Islam made inroads into the northern Mozambican coast and became associated with the Shirazi ruling elites.[1]

Since the founding of the Kilwa Sultanate in the 10th CE century by Ali ibn al-Hassan Shirazi, Islam had become a major religion in the region. The former port city ofSofala, which became famous for its trade in ivory, timber, slaves, gold (by way of Great Zimbabwe) and Iron with the Islamic Middle East and India, was one of the most important trading centers on the Mozambique coast.[2] Sofala [2] and much of the rest of coastal Mozambique was part of the Kilwa Sultanate from Arab arrival (believed to be the 12th century) until the Portuguese conquest in 1505.

During the subsequent period of the Omani Al Bu Said dynasty, Muslim merchants expanded their trading zones south along the coast. It is believed that nearly all of the cities' inhabitants were Muslim before the arrival of the Portuguese in the 16th century.

Islam in Mozambique - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't see any sword in spread of Islam in Mozambique.

Do you see any? Please

Regards

 

[Looncall]

Was Islam spread by the sword?

No.

For example:

Spread of Islam in Mozambique:[1]

Islam in Mozambique is the religion of approximately 17.9% of the total population.[1] The vast majority of MozambicanMuslims are Sunni belonging to Shafi school of jurisprudence, although some Ismaili Shiite Muslims are also registered. The Muslims consists primarily of indigenous Mozambicans, citizens of South Asian (Indian and Pakistani) descent, and a very small number of North African and Middle Eastern immigrants.
Pre-colonial history

Mozambique has long historic ties with the Muslim world. Initially by way of Sufi merchants, mostly from Yemen, and centuries after through a more organized system of coastal trading cities, more heavily influenced by the Ibadi Muslims from Oman along the shores of Eastern Africa.
The arrival of the Arab trade in Mozambique dates to the fourth Hijri century when Muslims established small emirates on the coast of East Africa. Links between Islam and the chiefly clans in Mozambique have existed since the eighth century, when Islam made inroads into the northern Mozambican coast and became associated with the Shirazi ruling elites.[1]

Since the founding of the Kilwa Sultanate in the 10th CE century by Ali ibn al-Hassan Shirazi, Islam had become a major religion in the region. The former port city ofSofala, which became famous for its trade in ivory, timber, slaves, gold (by way of Great Zimbabwe) and Iron with the Islamic Middle East and India, was one of the most important trading centers on the Mozambique coast.[2] Sofala [2] and much of the rest of coastal Mozambique was part of the Kilwa Sultanate from Arab arrival (believed to be the 12th century) until the Portuguese conquest in 1505.

During the subsequent period of the Omani Al Bu Said dynasty, Muslim merchants expanded their trading zones south along the coast. It is believed that nearly all of the cities' inhabitants were Muslim before the arrival of the Portuguese in the 16th century.

Islam in Mozambique - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't see any sword in spread of Islam in Mozambique.

Do you see any? Please
Regards

You are cherry-picking. Try the wikipedia article Islam in India. You will find plenty of conquests listed there.

Why is the muslim approach to scholarship so uniformly despicable?

 

[paarsurrey]

It is an established fact that the religion of Quran/Islam/Muhammad has the power to spread peacefully in most of the countries; why in a handful countries there is expressed doubt that Quran/Islam/Muhammad spread by sword?

This is a point on which actually the doubters need to focus on.

Will they? Please

Regards

 

[Looncall]

It is an established fact that the religion of Quran/Islam/Muhammad has the power to spread peacefully in most of the countries; why in a handful countries there is expressed doubt that Quran/Islam/Muhammad spread by sword?

This is a point on which actually the doubters need to focus on.

Will they? Please

Regards

Perhaps they are distracted by the abominable carnage happening right now.

 

[YmirGF]

It is an established fact that the religion of Quran/Islam/Muhammad has the power to spread peacefully in most of the countries; why in a handful countries there is expressed doubt that Quran/Islam/Muhammad spread by sword?

This is a point on which actually the doubters need to focus on.

Will they? Please

Regards

You mean, other than Islam's incredibly violent history? Yeah, if we ignore all the bad stuff, I suppose it was pretty peaceful. Similarly, if you ignore all the bad things that happened in Stalin's Russia, Stalin was a fairly good leader.

 

[paarsurrey]

Perhaps they are distracted by the abominable carnage happening right now.

Quran makes this point very clear, in scores of times or one may say innumerable times, that the believers have to:

1. Abide by its prime teachings.
2. Do good deeds at appropriate time and suited to the occasion.

If somebody does not do that; then he is just a non-believer and would suffer for the wrongs he commits in the name of Quran/Islam/Muhammad.

There is a whole chapter in Quran to this affect:

The Holy Quran : Chapter 103: Al-`Asr

[103:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[103:2] By the fleeting Time,
[103:3] Surely, man is in a state of loss,
[103:4] Except those who believe and do good works, and exhort one another to accept truth, and exhort one another to be steadfast.

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

The wrong doer radicals/extremists are suffering losses in this world and suffer more in the hereafter as per the above one of the prime teachings.

Regards