KidatHeart
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It's quite possible Jesus was a politician seeking personal gain.
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Was Jesus an Historical Person?
- Thread starter Jonathan Hoffman
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KidatHeart
Member
(Is ^^^that blasphemy?) :sorry1:
It's about as plausible as anything else that's been proposed.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Hello....
This from your post 157.........
I reckon the risk might have greater.....
This you already know:- Luke 13:1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galileans, whose blood Pilate had mingled..........
The passages before and after this hold much for consideration. Any Galilean (provincial?) public meeting was (possibly) 'high risk', and Jesus was therefore careful of sudden action by any official 'units' that might be around. In Jerusalem this was different, because of the high population, hence the Romans a) let the quisling authorities act and b) insisted that they act 'quietly' in any arrest.
But ...
but ...
What the hell were you thinking? but ...
none of those are internet accessible!
Your certainty was never in doubt.
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Parenthetically, when you claim "you will be hard pressed to find a non apologetically source that doesnt claim tekton in this case doesnt mean handworker" - and once one makes allowances for the tortured grammar - it's hard not to be struck by the casual arrogance with which you simply dismiss, for example, the scholarship behind such efforts as the NASB, NSRV, and NJB, as if the scholars involved were either rank apologists driven by ideological bias or pathetic buffoons who have yet to acquire your skill with a web browser.
I did not equate asking with anything, nor the mythicist position with holocaust denial and so on. I pointed out that looking at whether or not there are doubters cannot be used as a standard.
They have. You just aren't familiar with it.
Equivalent? The 'equivalent' claim would be that the Shoah is no more evidenced than Jesus, an assertion which is disturbingly stupid.
outhouse
Atheistically
I actually like Freyne's view. I do not like Ben Witherington on this topic at all.
Mark A. Chancey tries to reduce Hellenism in cities like Sepphoris then what I believe supports the opposite.
Martin Goodman's view is criticised by Chancey for his heavy use of Rabbinic literature. I dont know enough about his view to comment.
BiblesBeTrippin
New Member
I agree that he was probably written about in the bible based off of some nice, giving, generous and wholesome man from back in the day. If such a guy existed, then he came from his mother's vag through birth after she definitely had sexual intercourse. I DO NOT think any of these ridiculous miracles happened... nobody can walk on water, part a sea with a wave of a hand or be swallowed by a whale and survive... it baffles me everyday that people drink this kool-aid willingly... how many times could someone have gone to hawaii with all of the money they've given to their church in tithes? #ahwell
KidatHeart
Member
I think Jesus was not necessarily so nice or wholesome. I think it's possible he started a cult around the notion that he was divine, and the powers that were saw it as an opportunity, and embraced the church he created as a way to further their own ends.
So? Many things are possible and, to the best of my knowledge, you've offered no reason why someone should consider your speculation to be of any value.
Let me ask this: Do you think it not only possible but likely and, if so, based on what evidence?
Yes, I agree, the claim is disturbingly stupid, you don't have to tell me.
Apparently I did, if only to address your disgusting and thoughtless claim.
Read the thread, I was commenting on the claim made by legion. Please try to keep up.
Keeping up with thoughtless drivel such as ...... is not at all difficult. For the record, questioning the historicity of Jesus is categorically not equivalent to holocaust denial, and to suggest otherwise is vulgar and insensitive ignorance at best.
FFS, get with the program. Legion equates questioning the historicity of Jesus with holocaust denial, I was directing my response towards him.
KidatHeart
Member
Well, L. Ron Hubbard did it (or something like it).
Slander is better than ignorance? I do not equate the two.