Was Pilate totally blameless for crucifying Jesus?

[outhouse]

And I'm happy to see you have resorted to conspiracy theory sites once again

that site is horrible, and i tripped on it. and only copied what I found to be correct.


But you ignore and falied miserably all the other links I have posted.


Your like a parrot, you keep repeating yourself, you should address the facts ive posted and quit trying to win a debate you embarrass yourself in.


you have gone downhill recently bud.

 

[fallingblood]

while that statement came from said site

the passage from Gjohn is not a conspiracy and that is why I copied it.

epic fail on your part

You dont have the knowledge to pick a part Alfreds work, nor have you provided a decent rebuttle to any mistakes alfred may have made.

Just provide your sources. It should be simple. Not a single thing you have posted was in regards to Passover or how it was all about money or how it was a Jewish payday. You instead refuse to provide sources. I don't blame you as I'm sure you don't have any credible ones. Seeing that you cite from works over a hundred years old and conspiracy theory websites, I'm not surprised at what you post.

I do see that this conversation has run its course. You will continue refusing to provide credible sources, and will continue to rely on little attacks. So, it is a waste of everyone's time to continue with you.

 

[outhouse]

Those were troubled times in Judea. It was in the best interests of the Romans to do a bit of placating - while at the same time, putting down what they perceived as possible insurgent movements. It was a hard balance to try to find, and sure enough, just a few decades later, the balance could not be maintained and Jerusalem was sacked completely.

this is all correct as it gets

there was a tax war in galilee while jesus was a child

there was a tax war shortly after his death.



the climate at the time of jesus was one of severe roman oppression to the point of starvation and disease upon the jews.

 

[outhouse]

Just provide your sources. It should be simple. Not a single thing you have posted was in regards to Passover or how it was all about money or how it was a Jewish payday. You instead refuse to provide sources. I don't blame you as I'm sure you don't have any credible ones. Seeing that you cite from works over a hundred years old and conspiracy theory websites, I'm not surprised at what you post.

I do see that this conversation has run its course. You will continue refusing to provide credible sources, and will continue to rely on little attacks. So, it is a waste of everyone's time to continue with you.

my parrot changes it up more often then you do.

I posted links , READ them. if you dont refute what I post then your are not participating and will be ignored

 

[CynthiaCypher]

It was polemic.

So the stories shifting the blame away from Pilate are propaganda whose intent is to attack Rabbinic Judaism?

 

[fallingblood]

So the stories shifting the blame away from Pilate are propaganda whose intent is to attack Rabbinic Judaism?

Partially.

 

[fallingblood]

my parrot changes it up more often then you do.

I posted links , READ them. if you dont refute what I post then your are not participating and will be ignored

You already ignore much of what is said anyway. Case in point, I have offered rebuttals as well as reasons why your links have nothing to do with what is being talked about. I don't doubt there were taxes. I doubt that Passover was intended as this huge money making rock concert type of thing, in which all of the taxes and payments that you mentioned all of a sudden benefited Jerusalem.

You have yet to supply a source that suggests such.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Partially.

What other motive did the authors have to shift the blame away from Pilate? Is it because they didn't want to offend a Roman audience? If so, why?

 

[fallingblood]

What other motive did the authors have to shift the blame away from Pilate? Is it because they didn't want to offend a Roman audience? If so, why?

They didn't want to be seen as a threat. They were after all following a man crucified by Rome.

 

[outhouse]

You already ignore much of what is said anyway. Case in point, I have offered rebuttals as well as reasons why your links have nothing to do with what is being talked about. I don't doubt there were taxes. I doubt that Passover was intended as this huge money making rock concert type of thing, in which all of the taxes and payments that you mentioned all of a sudden benefited Jerusalem.

You have yet to supply a source that suggests such.

you dont have the knolwedge to refute Alfred which is not a bad source

you dont have the knowledge to refute biblica passages showing money was being generated

you dont have the knowledge to refute jesus was upset over this money making circus and its why he died

 

[CynthiaCypher]

They didn't want to be seen as a threat. They were after all following a man crucified by Rome.

So is it your opinion that the scriptures shifting the blame away from Pilate are in at least part fiction?

 

[Kathryn]

Jesus' tirade in the Temple certainly could have been a part of the reason, or the WHOLE reason, he was arrested. Neither the Romans nor the Jews had a high tolerance level for "temple shenanigans." The Temple was too emotional and too political a symbol, for either camp to tolerate disturbances, destruction, rallies, etc.

 

[outhouse]

They didn't want to be seen as a threat. They were after all following a man crucified by Rome.

false

they were romans, writing to a roman audience


they were following a deity created by paul more so then a man crucified

 

[outhouse]

Jesus' tirade in the Temple certainly could have been a part of the reason, or the WHOLE reason, he was arrested. Neither the Romans nor the Jews had a high tolerance level for "temple shenanigans." The Temple was too emotional and too political a symbol, for either camp to tolerate disturbances, destruction, rallies, etc.

correct again.

the temple was the bank


the same way you cant mess with the money tellers now, you didnt do it back then either.

these barbaric people's punishment was very severe, as noted

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Jesus' tirade in the Temple certainly could have been a part of the reason, or the WHOLE reason, he was arrested. Neither the Romans nor the Jews had a high tolerance level for "temple shenanigans." The Temple was too emotional and too political a symbol, for either camp to tolerate disturbances, destruction, rallies, etc.

What did the sign Pilate ordered put over the cross say?

 

[Kathryn]

What did the sign Pilate ordered put over the cross say?

Everyone knows what it supposedly said. What's your point?

 

[outhouse]

What did the sign Pilate ordered put over the cross say?

I feel this was a literary creation

 

[outhouse]

Everyone knows what it said. What's your point?

only whats in the bible do we know.

the reality of the event???? we dont know if there was any sign at all.

 

[Kathryn]

only whats in the bible do we know.

the reality of the event???? we dont know if there was any sign at all.

Redundant "point."

 

[fallingblood]

So is it your opinion that the scriptures shifting the blame away from Pilate are in at least part fiction?

Yes..