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What about the 7-day creation story?

look3467

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Baha'u'llah, the Prophet founder of the Baha'i Faith, claims to be the Promised One whose coming was explicitly foretold, not only in the Old and the New Testaments.... but also in the prophecies of the Hindu, Buddhist, Zoroastrian, Islamic and other religions.>>> Prophecy-Fulfilled

Why would Jesus be the one to stop the ritual of animal sacrifices and not Baha'u'llah?
And why were there sacrifices set up in the first place? To what point where they needed and why were they done away with in Christ and not with Baha'u'llah?

And what about the Redeemer, the liberator of the sin question?

There is a deliverer, one that delivers from sin, and I don’t see where Baha'u'llah, could deliver anybody but himself from sin.

I really don’t have a problem with Baha'u'llah, it is that he doesn’t fit the promised Messiah, the deliverer, the end of the sacrifice, and the restorer of souls to new life.
Jesus, on the other hand, must include all souls from the very first man to his time to all future souls in His once and for all sacrifice, enabling all mankind, including Baha'u'llah, into the realm of life, eternal life of which He is the Alfa and the Omega.

But you know, we won’t be able to convince each other either way, for we both have ample sources of scriptures to add to the mix.

For me, what is important is that we see each other as neighbors, loving one another and have respect for each others beliefs.

If we do that, then there are no differences in respect to love, for love is one and not divided.

Peace>>>AJ
 

BruceDLimber

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Hi!

Baha'u'llah fulfills the prophecies of the Second Coming very well if we simply recognize that their significance is spiritual and not literal!

Otherwise, you're making exactly the same mistake the Jews made in rejecting Jesus the first time around because He didn't fulfill the prophecies literally, either! (He wasn't a literal king, wasn't named Emmanuel, etc..)

So we cordially invite you to investigate this further! :)

In particular, you can find lots of information about the fulfilled prophecies at: Click on one of the following to navigate further down this page Religious Unity

Good hunting! :)

Bruce
 

Wandered Off

Sporadic Driveby Member
Baha'u'llah fulfills the prophecies of the Second Coming very well if we simply recognize that their significance is spiritual and not literal!
That may be true, but there's virtually no end to what fulfills the prophecies if we allow them to mean something different from what they actually say.
 

look3467

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Premium Member
If Jesus was all like Baha'u'llah, we all might as well give up hope of ever reaching the presence of God.
For then, we are to depend on our own righteousness to find passage.
Baha'u'llah, was a man of peace, if he weren't then you would not be for peace and harmony amongst the religious, but he was not able to burden the sins of thew world for the express purpose of saving the world and not just a chosen few.

Peace>>>AJ
And that my friend, will never happen, to me , to you or to anybody that ever set foot on this earth.
Without the offerring of forgiveness through the sacrifice of one, the Son od God, there would be no hope, regardless of how many prophets arose.
For it was the righteouness of God, not of Christ, but in Christ, that God was able to grant forgiveness, unmerited favor to all mankind via His Son.
If there was to be any salvation of anybody, Jesus is the one.
 

look3467

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Premium Member
If you can come to understand the significance of the number 7 in scripture, you will begin to see a wonderful picture you haven't seen before.

Peace>>>AJ
 

BruceDLimber

Well-Known Member
Again, Look, all of God's Divine Messengers share these same powers becuase They are all spiritually One, being invested as They are by the same Holy Spirit!

While different human individuals, Their spiritual Oneness removes any such obstacles as you describe. God's Power remains unchallenged and unsurpassed.

Best regards, :)

Bruce
 

look3467

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Again, Look, all of God's Divine Messengers share these same powers becuase They are all spiritually One, being invested as They are by the same Holy Spirit!

While different human individuals, Their spiritual Oneness removes any such obstacles as you describe. God's Power remains unchallenged and unsurpassed.

Best regards, :)

Bruce

So is the way.................. as one sees it.

God bless,

AJ
 

jbird

New Member
According to the Bible, 7 is God's perfect number.

For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.
Proverbs 24:16

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
Revelation 4:5

[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
Job 5:19

There's a lot of verses that show that it is God's perfect number. The veres I gave you are just a few examples.
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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
ESL. Hebrew was first.
So, theologically speaking, little coincidences in English with numbers of letters and cutesy anagrams probably don't mean a whole lot, right?

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]There's a lot of verses that show that it is God's perfect number. The veres I gave you are just a few examples.[/FONT]
What about e? If you wanted to make an argument from design about what God's perfect number is most likely to be, I'd say that e would have to make the short list. That or pi.
 

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
So, theologically speaking, little coincidences in English with numbers of letters and cutesy anagrams probably don't mean a whole lot, right?
Why would that be?


What about e? If you wanted to make an argument from design about what God's perfect number is most likely to be, I'd say that e would have to make the short list. That or pi.
"e" is not a number.:slap:
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Why would that be?
Because the English translation would be just as much the product of humans as it would be of God.

Unless you assume that God controlled the people to translate the Bible a certain way, and then handed down His word in Hebrew with that in mind, but that would go against the idea of free will.

"e" is not a number.:slap:
Sure it is. It's not a whole number, but it is a number: 2.7182818284590452354...

Considering the elegance that we see with this number (i.e. the derivative of e^x is also e^x... this is the only function that has this property), why wouldn't you put it at least on the short list for "God's perfect number"?
 

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
Because the English translation would be just as much the product of humans as it would be of God.

Unless you assume that God controlled the people to translate the Bible a certain way, and then handed down His word in Hebrew with that in mind, but that would go against the idea of free will.
Huh? How does translating correctly have anything to do with free will?

I do not see it as being far fetched that God can preserve His intent regardless of translation to other languages that He had forknowledge of.


Sure it is. It's not a whole number, but it is a number: 2.7182818284590452354...
Silly, "e" is a vowel. :yes:
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Huh? How does translating correctly have anything to do with free will?

I do not see it as being far fetched that God can preserve His intent regardless of translation to other languages that He had forknowledge of.
Because there are multiple correct translations. In order to control how a passage would be translated, God would have to constrain the translators to a single interpretation.

Not constraining free will might allow for God's message to be translated between languages, but it disallows the possibility of Bible Code-like shenanigans in the translations, IMO.

Silly, "e" is a vowel. :yes:
The folks who remember high school calculus will know what I'm talking about. If it makes it easier for you, you can mentally replace "e" with "2.718".
 
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