What about the unvaccinated?

[We Never Know]

Yeah, I have friends who are dubious. They claim their rights and freedom. My response is what about my freedom from infection? I'm going to lose perhaps two weeks of work. My goals for my cyclocross this fall are in question now. I missed out on an event tonight with a friend. Where's the freedom to have health and well being? This idealistic "freedom" argument fails when the issue of personal responsibility comes into play. Basic social contract theory is how the group cooperates together so the whole society can be its best, and that often takes small personal sacrifices. How many have died because some idealistic anti-masker infected them in public? There's no justification for it.

The vax doesn't even guarantee you that so I guess you will just have to wait and see how things go.

 

[Revoltingest]

If I rented from you and my Dr said I need a ramp. Guess what.. You would be building a ramp. If you don't agree with this. I will come rent from you just to prove it.

Not to a 2nd floor apartment. The ramp would be unreasonably
huge & spendy. Since you're not a commercial landlord, you might
not be aware that there are limits to what government can legally
impose upon us. I know wherefrom I speak.

Still, I do accommodate special needs to the extent reasonable.
But I don't believe that someone who refuses vaccination can
be accommodated in a building with shared air handling.
Why don't you hire or rent to such people, instead of expecting
others to do it?

 

[We Never Know]

Not to a 2nd floor apartment.
Still, I do accommodate special needs to the extent reasonable.
But I don't believe that someone who refuses vaccination can
be accommodated in a building with shared air handling.
Why don't you hire or rent to such people, instead of expecting
others to do it?

Point is you would have to accommodate me. End of story.

 

[Revoltingest]

Revoltingest... this is specifically about having a mental illness with symptoms of paranoia and fear (not scared of the dark fear) and thats the reason why they can't take the vaccine. Everything else (below) is based on that.

You haven't addressed the issues of can't vs won't vaccinate,
& whether "can't" is justification for waiving a requirement to
vaccinate. I find the danger unacceptable. You don't.
That's a fundamental difference that isn't resolvable.

 

[F1fan]

The vax doesn't even guarantee you that so I guess you will just have to wait and see how things go.

It gives me an advantage, not security. That's why we need our neighbors to watch our backs instead of putting a knife in it. We are all in this together and fighting the expert advice with disinformation only makes us all weaker. The Taliban probably envy the anti-vaxxers over the damage they are doing to America.

 

[We Never Know]

You haven't addressed the issues of can't vs won't vaccinate,
& whether "can't" is justification for waiving a requirement to
vaccinate. I find the danger unacceptable. You don't.
That's a fundamental difference that isn't resolvable.

Schizophrenia is a justification.

 

[Revoltingest]

Are you threatening me? Be precise and give direct answers.

You're serious?

 

[We Never Know]

It gives me an advantage, not security. That's why we need our neighbors to watch our backs instead of putting a knife in it. We are all in this together and fighting the expert advice with disinformation only makes us all weaker. The Taliban probably envy the anti-vaxxers over the damage they are doing to America.

"The Taliban probably envy the anti-vaxxers over the damage they are doing to America."

 

[Revoltingest]

Schizophrenia is a illness that presents many thing including beliefs. Learn about it.

I needn't accommodate every belief that a schizophrenic might have.

 

[We Never Know]

You're serious?

What about "peach"?
I recommend not pressing this.

You tell me. Be precise and give direct answers.

 

[Revoltingest]

If I rented from you and my Dr said I need a ramp. Guess what.. You would be building a ramp. If you don't agree with this. I will come rent from you just to prove it.

You wouldn't meet my reference requirements.

 

[We Never Know]

You wouldn't meet my reference requirements.

Thank god(if one does exist) for that.

 

[Revoltingest]

Do you mean "unvaccinated schizophrenics" to mean they are crazy antivaxxers making mental health excuses to avoid the vaccine?

That question isn't entirely clear.
"Unvaccinated" is sufficient to deny employment or tenancy in
my business. I had one schizophrenic tenant. No problem

 

[We Never Know]

I needn't accommodate every belief that a schizophrenic might have.

Try kicking one out because of your personal beliefs or fears and see what happens.

 

[Revoltingest]

How so?

Post 95 makes it seem like they are interrelated to you.

"To some extent" comports with "interrelated".

 

[Revoltingest]

Point is you would have to accommodate me. End of story.

Goodness, you're demanding.
There are legal limits to what you can demand,
& force someone else to give you. I'm confident
my policies will survive legal scrutiny.

 

[Revoltingest]

Schizophrenia is a justification.

To you.
Not to me.

 

[fantome profane]

The more people who get vaccinated the less of a problem this pandemic will be overall.

The less of a problem this pandemic is overall the less restrictive measures will be for the unvaccinated.

There are people who for different reasons cannot take the vaccine.

There are lots of people who for ignorant selfish and irrational reasons choose not to take the vaccine.

Those who can get vaccinated and choose not to are massively screwing over those who can’t get the vaccine.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I’m a diagnosed schizophrenic. As a result, I am 100% paranoid of all governments and CANNOT trust them in the slightest. The government is pressuring me to get vaccinated. Due to my paranoia, that is something I can never do (as someone who is being treated efficiently for my condition).
So what about me? I’ll never have a vaccination card. Do people want me to be segregated from society? With all these talks of vaccine passports and mandates, I feel like my time in participating in society is completely over. I feel absolutely discriminated against. I will never get the vaccine. I CANT get the vaccine, as my paranoid views of the government won’t change. They’re the illuminati who drink baby blood and want to sterilize all of us, yo. I don’t see that belief of mine being able to change, and that is a symptom of what I have.
So what about me? I’ll never get the jab, so is society going to completely shun me now? What about the people who cannot get the vaccine. Like legitimately they cannot, it’s not just an opinion of theirs. What about us? It feels like society is abandoning us. I am not alone in this predicament.

Your problem is that you don't trust the government -- but it is not the government urging you to get vaccinated. It is the medical profession. Your doctor -- have you asked her/him?

 

[Revoltingest]

You tell me. Be precise and give direct answers.

Ask a reasonable question, & I'll answer.
The quoted post had no question.

BTW, when you intended "preach" you spelled "peach".
Similar looking words, but very different definitions.
The error deflated the attempted insult to me.