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What about the unvaccinated?

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You threatened me in post #87 by telling me not to push it. Do you deny it?
You're serious?
No...I'd never do anything to harm you in any way.
I strongly suggest re-reading those posts, &
re-consider your inference of malevolence.
Have no fear of me...I'm a pussycat.
Just ask anyone here.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
To you.
Not to me.

Why?

You've related it to antivax and conspiracy theories and being about thoughts, how did you come to those conclusions?

The experts believe this is an actual illness, whats your line of reasoning that it isn't an illness worthy of exemption?

No doctor would tell a patient suffering from that type of mental illness to take the vaccine because its "just thoughts." If we are supposed to agree with the experts, why the discrepancy?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The ones with We Never Know?

I went through your posts from the beginning of the thread to show you why I'm asking you these questions and clarify your line of thinking in regards to that last sentence, the edit, and your views on mental illness.
It's not clear what you want, given that my responses seem unsatisfactory. With so many alerts from other posters to
address, I ask that you re-read my posts. They will clarify
my views.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Why?

You've related it to antivax and conspiracy theories and being about thoughts, how did you come to those conclusions?

The experts believe this is an actual illness, whats your line of reasoning that it isn't an illness worthy of exemption?

No doctor would tell a patient suffering from that type of mental illness to take the vaccine because its "just thoughts." If we are supposed to agree with the experts, why the discrepancy?
Your post reflects misunderstanding of my views.
I've been unable to correct this. Please carefully
re-read the thread.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
You don't have to be a schizophrenic to be paranoid of the government and the big drug companies, all you have to have is common sense.

I know how you feel . The governor in my state has mandated vaccinations for all state workers and I am a state worker. If we are not vaccinated by October 18 we will be fired. I have mental-emotional issues which have been ongoing since 1983 and I have been to psychiatrists, psychologists and counselors since that time, off and on. I have had many diagnoses, most recently generalized anxiety disorder. I will be seeking a medical exemption under the ADA so I won't have to get vaccinated. There is no reason for me to be vaccinated since I work at home and never go out except for groceries twice a week.

Your psychological diagnosis should be covered under the ADA.

"Under the ADA, an impairment needs to be a physiological or mental disorder. Depression, stress, and similar conditions are only sometimes considered impairments under the ADA. Whether depression and stress are considered impairments depends on if they result from a documented mental or physiological disorder or if they result from personal life or job pressures. The impairment must substantially limit at least one major life activity."

List of Disabilities Covered Under ADA | UpCounsel 2021

I'm glad you found a way ;) Let us know how it goes.

I think once the FDA approves all vaccines, if they do, it would hold a stronger case to get medical/mental health exemptions.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So if you dont know what my background is, how can you say if I am or i am not an authority on it?
You've provided some of your background in other threads.
But I'm going by your posts showing no understanding of
how the ADA works. On this basis, I rejected your advice
on rental policy.
Are you now claiming expertise?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
There should be exceptions for things like this.
There are:

Under the ADA, an impairment needs to be a physiological or mental disorder. Depression, stress, and similar conditions are only sometimes considered impairments under the ADA. Whether depression and stress are considered impairments depends on if they result from a documented mental or physiological disorder or if they result from personal life or job pressures. The impairment must substantially limit at least one major life activity.

List of Disabilities Covered Under ADA | UpCounsel 2021
 

We Never Know

No Slack
You've provided some of your background in other threads.
But I'm going by your posts showing no understanding of
how the ADA works. On this basis, I rejected your advice
on rental policy.
Are you now claiming expertise?

Really. I brought how the ADA works. You accused me that i was suggesting of being an authority(see your quote below). That again was your own made up thoughts.
But do tell me about myself that you know from my background posted in other thread.

I'll wager that I'm far far far more familiar with the ADA
than art thou. You seem to be suggesting that you're an
authority on it. On what basis?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You threatened me in post #87 by telling me not to press it. Do you deny it?
I deny ever threatening you.
It's surprising that you'd think so.
Suggesting that you not continue dissing me in posts
laden with spelling errors was to avoid embarrassment.

It's awkward to have to explain that. I'm concerned that
the explanation pushes the boundaries of the rules against
making things personal. I answered only because it seemed
necessary to you. I'd rather that you not try to steer me in
the direction of things so personal
I recommend that if you still feel threatened, send me a
private message to resolve it.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
There are:

Under the ADA, an impairment needs to be a physiological or mental disorder. Depression, stress, and similar conditions are only sometimes considered impairments under the ADA. Whether depression and stress are considered impairments depends on if they result from a documented mental or physiological disorder or if they result from personal life or job pressures. The impairment must substantially limit at least one major life activity.

List of Disabilities Covered Under ADA | UpCounsel 2021
And if a person has a disorder severe enough that they can't make responsible choices for themselves they will eventually need someone to act on their legal behalf.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Really. I brought how the ADA works. You accused me that i was suggesting of being an authority(see your quote below). That again was your own made up thoughts.
But do tell me about myself that you know from my background posted in other thread.
Do you claim expertise on the ADA?
If so, then please elaborate on how it applies here.
Otherwise, let's drop it as irrelevant to the issues.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I deny ever threatening you.
It's surprising that you'd think so.
Suggesting that you not continue dissing me in posts
laden with spelling errors was to avoid embarrassment.

It's awkward to have to explain that. I'm concerned that
the explanation pushes the boundaries of the rules against
making things personal. I answered only because it seemed
necessary to you. I'd rather that you not try to steer me in
the direction of things so personal
I recommend that if you still feel threatened, send me a
private message to resolve it.

Then what does this post mean. Especially the. "I recommend not pressing this" part.

What about "peach"?
I recommend not pressing this.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I’m a diagnosed schizophrenic. As a result, I am 100% paranoid of all governments and CANNOT trust them in the slightest. The government is pressuring me to get vaccinated. Due to my paranoia, that is something I can never do (as someone who is being treated efficiently for my condition).
So what about me? I’ll never have a vaccination card. Do people want me to be segregated from society? With all these talks of vaccine passports and mandates, I feel like my time in participating in society is completely over. I feel absolutely discriminated against. I will never get the vaccine. I CANT get the vaccine, as my paranoid views of the government won’t change. They’re the illuminati who drink baby blood and want to sterilize all of us, yo. I don’t see that belief of mine being able to change, and that is a symptom of what I have.
So what about me? I’ll never get the jab, so is society going to completely shun me now? What about the people who cannot get the vaccine. Like legitimately they cannot, it’s not just an opinion of theirs. What about us? It feels like society is abandoning us. I am not alone in this predicament.
@Xavier Graham AS You have my full support :) I may not have a schizophrenic tendency but I refuse to believe in the government and their "agenda" of vaccines.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Hahaha, Ron Johnson. That's a good one. You might as well link something the Grim Reaper said next. This guy is OUT TO LUNCH. He cannot be trusted at all.
You judged it without even looking at it. That is the fallacy of jumping to conclusions.
Maybe you think that other people's suffering from the vaccination is funny. I don't.
Maybe you need to look at some of the actual statistics, but of course if you were not one of the people who was permanently disabled or died, big deal.
 
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