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What about the unvaccinated?

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I’m a diagnosed schizophrenic. As a result, I am 100% paranoid of all governments and CANNOT trust them in the slightest. The government is pressuring me to get vaccinated. Due to my paranoia, that is something I can never do (as someone who is being treated efficiently for my condition).
So what about me? I’ll never have a vaccination card. Do people want me to be segregated from society? With all these talks of vaccine passports and mandates, I feel like my time in participating in society is completely over. I feel absolutely discriminated against. I will never get the vaccine. I CANT get the vaccine, as my paranoid views of the government won’t change. They’re the illuminati who drink baby blood and want to sterilize all of us, yo. I don’t see that belief of mine being able to change, and that is a symptom of what I have.
So what about me? I’ll never get the jab, so is society going to completely shun me now? What about the people who cannot get the vaccine. Like legitimately they cannot, it’s not just an opinion of theirs. What about us? It feels like society is abandoning us. I am not alone in this predicament.
So, you could take ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine. The government is not recommending those.

They won't do you any good, but what's that got to do with anything?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
You haven't addressed the issues of can't vs won't vaccinate,
& whether "can't" is justification for waiving a requirement to
vaccinate. I find the danger unacceptable. You don't.
That's a fundamental difference that isn't resolvable.

You're deflecting. The OP said they can't vaccinate due to the symptoms (behavior and thoughts) of mental illness. You disagreed.

I'm asking what was the meaning behind that last sentence and why you edited it out?

Do you see mental illness as a legitimate illness like physical illness, if not how? If so, why the discrepancy?

Do you believe that antivax use schizophrenia (and other mental illnesses) to justify not taking the vaccine?

and how did you compare the two or what brought you to that conclusion?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Lol. Ever heard of the ADA? The ADA protects people with a mental illness. He would own everything you have when he was done.
I'll wager that I'm far far far more familiar with the ADA
than art thou. You seem to be suggesting that you're an
authority on it. On what basis?
 
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We Never Know

No Slack
Ask a reasonable question, & I'll answer.
The quoted post had no question.

BTW, when you intended "preach" you spelled "peach".
Similar looking words, but very different definitions.
The error deflated the attempted insult to me.
:facepalm:

You told me point blank in post #87

What about "peach"?
I recommend not pressing this.

So are you threatening me? It doesn't get any clearer than that.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You're deflecting. The OP said they can't vaccinate due to the symptoms (behavior and thoughts) of mental illness. You disagreed.

I'm asking what was the meaning behind that last sentence and why you edited it out?

Do you see mental illness as a legitimate illness like physical illness, if not how? If so, why the discrepancy?

Do you believe that antivax use schizophrenia (and other mental illnesses) to justify not taking the vaccine?

and how did you compare the two or what brought you to that conclusion?
This post asks for much, but none of it is productive.
Please re-read my earlier posts, & all your questions
will be answered.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I'll wager that I'm far far far more familiar with
than art thou. You seem to be suggesting that
you're an authority on it. On what basis?

Really! Me asking you if you have heard of the ADA makes you think I'm an
authority on it?
There you go again with adding your own made up thoughts to my posts. That's becoming a regular thing with you. Why is that?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
This post asks for much, but none of it is productive.
Please re-read my earlier posts, & all your questions
will be answered.

The ones with We Never Know?

I went through your posts from the beginning of the thread to show you why I'm asking you these questions and clarify your line of thinking in regards to that last sentence, the edit, and your views on mental illness.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Really! Me asking you if you have heard of the ADA makes you think I'm an
authority on it?
There you go again with adding your own made up thoughts to my posts. That's becoming a regular thing with you. Why is that?
You seem to be claiming some expertise.
I've dealt with the ADA for decades as a commercial & residential
property owner & manager, & licensed broker. I don't know what
your background is, but I've yet to see any ADA expertise in it.
So I'll continue to rely upon my own judgment.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Your problem is that you don't trust the government -- but it is not the government urging you to get vaccinated. It is the medical profession. Your doctor -- have you asked her/him?

Its the experts saying to vaccinate, it's the government urging people to through propaganda, coercion, and so forth. The experts don't enforce and make the rules. The OP is concerned about the people enforcing the vaccine mandate not the science about it. (His reasons aren't because of science)
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I’m a diagnosed schizophrenic. As a result, I am 100% paranoid of all governments and CANNOT trust them in the slightest. The government is pressuring me to get vaccinated. Due to my paranoia, that is something I can never do (as someone who is being treated efficiently for my condition).
So what about me? I’ll never have a vaccination card.
You don't have to be a schizophrenic to be paranoid of the government and the big drug companies, all you have to have is common sense.

I know how you feel . The governor in my state has mandated vaccinations for all state workers and I am a state worker. If we are not vaccinated by October 18 we will be fired. I have mental-emotional issues which have been ongoing since 1983 and I have been to psychiatrists, psychologists and counselors since that time, off and on. I have had many diagnoses, most recently generalized anxiety disorder. I will be seeking a medical exemption under the ADA so I won't have to get vaccinated. There is no reason for me to be vaccinated since I work at home and never go out except for groceries twice a week.

Your psychological diagnosis should be covered under the ADA.

"Under the ADA, an impairment needs to be a physiological or mental disorder. Depression, stress, and similar conditions are only sometimes considered impairments under the ADA. Whether depression and stress are considered impairments depends on if they result from a documented mental or physiological disorder or if they result from personal life or job pressures. The impairment must substantially limit at least one major life activity."

List of Disabilities Covered Under ADA | UpCounsel 2021
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I've dealt with the ADA for decades as a commercial & residential
property owner & manager, & licensed broker. I don't know what
your background is, but I've yet to see any ADA expertise in it.
So I'll continue to rely upon my own judgment.

So if you dont know what my background is, how can you say if I am or i am not an authority on it?
 
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