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What did Jesus Look Like?

Milton Platt

Milton Platt

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Don Penguinoini said:
That is the stupidest thing you have ever said logician. Go back in time and prove to me he didn't exist.
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If you want to argue that he did...and a man with that name may have....i am afraid I will have to hold you to the same evidenciary standards you require of others. Until you can time travel to prove he did exist, I will assume not.
 
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Theunis

Active Member
Milton Platt said:
Until you can time travel to prove he did exist, I will assume not.
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We don't need time travel.
We have the akhasic record.; we just need the technology to read it.
It is said that Buddha was only accepted when he read his own karmic record in the akhasic record
Scientists have recently found that crystal etc do in fact store energy patterns of people. (And they were not researching psychometry )

This is quite an interesting read
http://meanings.crystalsandjewelry.com/how-to-program-crystals/

Perhaps Edgar Cayce dould do this, but I am not putting my head on block in this regard
http://www.edgarcayce.org/are/edgarcayce.aspx
 
Milton Platt

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Theunis said:
We don't need time travel.
We have the akhasic record.; we just need the technology to read it.
It is said that Buddha was only accepted when he read his own karmic record in the akhasic record
Scientists have recently found that crystal etc do in fact store energy patterns of people. (And they were not researching psychometry )

This is quite an interesting read
http://meanings.crystalsandjewelry.com/how-to-program-crystals/

Perhaps Edgar Cayce dould do this, but I am not putting my head on block in this regard
http://www.edgarcayce.org/are/edgarcayce.aspx
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Don't see any peer reviewed papers from scientists in the links you provided. Define "energy patterns" and provide evidence of their existence.

Edit: you specifically stated scientists showed that crystals could store the energy patterns of people. Please definethe phrase "energy patterns"and provide a link to the scientific paper which supports your assertion.
 
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Ingledsva

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Theunis said:
Sure "could also be" denotes an uncertainty so why try to quote it as factual ?
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LOL! I sent you to the information.

Including the proceedings on this, from the Society for Biblical Archaeology.

I included other links.

I included books, etc.

I even showed you where Origen, an ancient Christian theologians, says Jesus was NOT A CARPENTER.

“As we see from Origen, Against Celsus, 6.36, the charge that Jesus was a workman was being used by Jewish opponents in post-NT times; Origen replies that “Jesus himself is NOT described as a carpenter anywhere in the Gospels accepted by the churches" (a reply which indicates that he did not read “the carpenter” in Mark 6:3.”

And of course even the Jews call him Sorcerer.

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Ingledsva

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Theunis said:
Bah--So jolly old Isaiah approached the prophetess of god, made her preggie and he was told by God to give him a name other than Immanuel and you wish to palm this off as fulfulling the prophesy regarding Immanuel. The god given sign was to the King not to Isaiah ! and quite obvious by the sons name not relevant to your assumption.

Try straightening out your timeline. It says this child will eat curds and honey. This is a sure indication of there will only be a remnant remaining of that nation after it had been pillaged. They will only have one cow and two sheep and all they will have to eat is curds and wild honey. Yes try to fathom this and adjust your timeline accordingly !
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BALONEY! You need to go back up and read the info. In fact you need to read Isaiah from verse ONE.

BEFORE - he shall LEARN GOOD FROM BAD - the two kings mentioned - will be destroyed.

Obviously not some future Jesus.

Obviously I'm not trying to "palm this off," as I provided the verses showing the Isaiah verses take place at ONE time, during a war which Isaiah is in.

Also - obviously - earlier theologians also realized this - or Immanuel would not be listed as Isaiah's son in Strong's, etc.

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Ingledsva

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Theunis said:
The Living Bible says his wife.

I have no more to say on the matter except to ask you, now that your internet etiquette has improved -
1. Does this event from the distant past in the history of the Jews in any way whatsoever have relevance, profit or provide enrichment of our present day lives?
To you my child it appears to only have egoist value in that you and your source is correct and that all others are not.

2. Have you identified the device I gave you a clue to; A further clue - the one that shocks you to death if you touch it.

3. Have you since updated your timeline?
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And AGAIN - it does not matter what the Living Bible says, - as the verses, - as shown, - do not say the Prophetess is his wife.

AGAIN - look them up in the Hebrew.

This is ridiculous!

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Milton Platt

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Milton Platt said:
Don't see any peer reviewed papers from scientists in the links you provided. Define "energy patterns" and provide evidence of their existence.

Edit: you specifically stated scientists showed that crystals could store the energy patterns of people. Please definethe phrase "energy patterns"and provide a link to the scientific paper which supports your assertion.
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Second Edit: Still waiting for the link to the scientific study showing how "energy patterns" can be "stored" in crystals. You said there was such a study done....where is it? At least name the scientists so others can verify. If you cannot, then at least admit it does not actually exist and you made it up.
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
Milton Platt said:
What "we" is he talking about? That's total woo. Records that can't be produced are of no value.
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We reminds me of the ancient aliens cast. :D


I catch them in so many lies. Ive been all over Peru with family, and they are habitual liars when it comes to all of these ancient sites.

Even eric vonduckagain is a known criminal convicted of fraud. :p
 
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Theunis

Active Member
Ingledsva said:
BALONEY! You need to go back up and read the info. In fact you need to read Isaiah from verse ONE.

BEFORE - he shall LEARN GOOD FROM BAD - the two kings mentioned - will be destroyed.

Obviously not some future Jesus.

Obviously I'm not trying to "palm this off," as I provided the verses showing the Isaiah verses take place at ONE time, during a war which Isaiah is in.

Also - obviously - earlier theologians also realized this - or Immanuel would not be listed as Isaiah's son in Strong's, etc.

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And you need to get your time lines straight. Immanuel as the son of Isaiah remains a mystery.
God obviously said to the King then he would give a sign, a child will be born to a virgin and he will eat curds and honey. Where did he say a child will be born to a virgin and that it will be Isaiah's son?
It is then explained when this will be viz when there is only a remnant left of that nation and after it has been stripped to such an extent that the "remnant" will be so poor that the will only have one cow and two sheep and that they will then eat curds and honey.

From the given time line It is quite obvious it has nothing to do with Jesus for he was ever named Immanuel
 
Ingledsva

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Theunis said:
And you need to get your time lines straight. Immanuel as the son of Isaiah remains a mystery.
God obviously said to the King then he would give a sign, a child will be born to a virgin and he will eat curds and honey. Where did he say a child will be born to a virgin and that it will be Isaiah's son?
It is then explained when this will be viz when there is only a remnant left of that nation and after it has been stripped to such an extent that the "remnant" will be so poor that the will only have one cow and two sheep and that they will then eat curds and honey.

From the given time line It is quite obvious it has nothing to do with Jesus for he was ever named Immanuel
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This is ridiculous!

Let us take it from a different angle. How can it be a sign for Ahaz, if it is supposedly about a far later Jesus?

Isa 7:1 And it came to pass in the days of Ahaz the son of Jotham, the son of Uzziah, king of Judah, that Rezin the king of Syria, and Pekah the son of Remaliah, king of Israel, went up toward Jerusalem to war against it, but could not prevail against it.

Isa 7:2 And it was told the house of David, saying, Syria is confederate with Ephraim. And his heart was moved, and the heart of his people, as the trees of the wood are moved with the wind.

Isa 7:3 Then said the LORD unto Isaiah, Go forth now to meet Ahaz, thou, and Shearjashub thy son, at the end of the conduit of the upper pool in the highway of the fuller's field;

Isa 7:7 Thus saith the Lord GOD, It shall not stand, neither shall it come to pass.

Isa 7:8 For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and within threescore and five years shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people.

Isa 7:9 And the head of Ephraim is Samaria, and the head of Samaria is Remaliah's son. If ye will not believe, surely ye shall not be established.

Isa 7:10 Moreover the LORD spake again unto Ahaz, saying,

Isa 7:11 Ask thee a sign of the LORD thy God; ask it either in the depth, or in the height above.

Isa 7:12 But Ahaz said, I will not ask, neither will I tempt the LORD.

Isa 7:13 And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also?

Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Isa 7:15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.

Isa 7:16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.

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outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
Theunis said:
You apparently have no understand of the ahkasic record. It has absolutely nothing to do with ancient aliens. Try reading the Mahabarata, Vedas and old Sanskrit writings.
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I know that TV show promotes that kind of pseudoscience

And they think all the text you mentioned is literal history too :rolleyes:
 
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