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What do you feel is wrong with Christianity

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
How is it obvious to you? In Islam, it is forbidden to pick a fight with someone...
Just by reading it. If this is the case, perhaps you should stop. BTW, you didn't answer my second question? Are you trying to convert him?
 

Protector

Humble Da'i.
Just by reading it. If this is the case, perhaps you should stop. BTW, you didn't answer my second question? Are you trying to convert him?
I would be happy if he converted (reverted), but my duty is to only spread the message.
And look all you say is just by reading it, why don't you give me actual proof that how I am trying to pick a fight with him? The title is what do you feel is wrong with Christianity. I am posting statements and he is clarifying them. Simple as that.
 

kai

ragamuffin
I would be happy if he converted (reverted), but my duty is to only spread the message.
And look all you say is just by reading it, why don't you give me actual proof that how I am trying to pick a fight with him? The title is what do you feel is wrong with Christianity. I am posting statements and he is clarifying them. Simple as that.
then try quoting the new testement , not the old ,for your arguments ,thats what christianity is all about
 

kai

ragamuffin
(line by line)
Why is this a problem? Nothing is cut-and-dried. exactly that is the problem look at it from a searchers point of view as if i was looking at chistianity forthe first time
Moot. This has always been a religion about Jesus. again this my problem who had the authority to change the methods of worship and the law of his own practised religionm after he had died
So do many Christians. big , big problem for new people to understand
All religions probably come from some root religious experience from antiquity. then there is nothing unique about jesus that hasnt been said of other god/godlike people
True for most religions. yes but its just christians we are talking about it reflects badly on a religion if its followers have a history of violence
They do the rest of us, too! but they are christians and a very enthusiastic and wide reaching idea of christianity
I think this is a misunderstanding of how most of us feel about the afterlife. then what is your view of the afterlife and is their several views depending on your denomination
I don't believe that. again others do, so what is christianity? imagine my dilema in which is what and who is right here

No human system is perfect, because no human being is perfect. Some see the glass half full. Some see the glass half empty. I think the glass is too big.

christianity is the most damaged of the three abrahamic religions (i cant count others i dont know about) it is torn usunder by differant sects or denominations etc so much so that i dont think jesus would recognise any of it ,his only comfort would be that judaism , his religion was still around.
 

roli

Born Again,Spirit Filled
How hard it it to be true Christian. How can I earn this title?
No one comes to God on their own merit, Jesus makes this quite clear:
Jhn 6:44No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Jhn 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
Jhn 12:32 — And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all [men] unto me.
Jhn 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and [that] your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

The bible says whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
I personally saw my need for a savior because the HOLY gHOST revealed my sinful state.
 
No one comes to God on their own merit, Jesus makes this quite clear:
Jhn 6:44No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Jhn 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
Jhn 12:32 — And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all [men] unto me.
Jhn 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and [that] your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

The bible says whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
I personally saw my need for a savior because the HOLY gHOST revealed my sinful state.

Does the Holy Spirit seek out all who are chosen?

If not to much trouble, would you share your experience with the Holy Spirit?
How did it change your life?
 

roli

Born Again,Spirit Filled
Does the Holy Spirit seek out all who are chosen?

If not to much trouble, would you share your experience with the Holy Spirit?
How did it change your life?

I sent you a personal message ,but I forgot to answer the first question.
Jhn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Born again = born of the Holy Spirit,

We are all chosen to be reconciled to God through the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is calling everyone ,but not everyone will respond.
Act 2:38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Jhn 3:16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
I find nothing inherently "wrong" with Christianity. I may find little things about it "unrealistic" or "unskillful", but wrong doesn't enter my mind at the moment.




Peace,
Mystic
 

kai

ragamuffin
I find nothing inherently "wrong" with Christianity. I may find little things about it "unrealistic" or "unskillful", but wrong doesn't enter my mind at the moment.


Peace,
Mystic
mystic, dont you think the pay for prayer type evangelical christians wrong
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
I am reasoning with you.
No, you're baiting and provoking me. With regard to your upcoming post, I have no need to "revert," since I didn't come from Muslim roots. For you to assert that I am, inherently, in some way, Muslim is to engage in proselytization. Don't call me Muslim, in whatever form, and you and I will be just fine.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
mystic, dont you think the pay for prayer type evangelical christians wrong

The words that come to my mind are more in line with are "clumsy", "heavy-handed", and "severely misguided."

"Delusional" is another word that comes to mind, too.




Peace,
Mystic
 

richardlowellt

Well-Known Member
The problem with christianity, is the same problem all religions have, they discourage, if not forbid fee thought. You are taught to accept what you have been told, no matter how unreasonable it may be, so therefore never seek answers to some of our greatest mysteries. Religions answer is, God created all of this, God said this, Jesus wants us to do this, It's mindless acceptance of, in most cases, the absolute ridicules. Religion wants blind obedience, never to question. Religion makes claims it can never support, and strikes down those who do not believe as they do, hence the billions of humans killed in the name of religion. We now have a combination of Religious fanatics and apocalyptical weponry, Iran, so now all of human kind is on the brink of possible nuclear war, RELIGION IS A THREAT TO CIVILIZATION
 
The problem with christianity, is the same problem all religions have, they discourage, if not forbid fee thought. You are taught to accept what you have been told, no matter how unreasonable it may be, so therefore never seek answers to some of our greatest mysteries. Religions answer is, God created all of this, God said this, Jesus wants us to do this, It's mindless acceptance of, in most cases, the absolute ridicules. Religion wants blind obedience, never to question. Religion makes claims it can never support, and strikes down those who do not believe as they do, hence the billions of humans killed in the name of religion. We now have a combination of Religious fanatics and apocalyptical weponry, Iran, so now all of human kind is on the brink of possible nuclear war, RELIGION IS A THREAT TO CIVILIZATION
Isn't it possible that the answers to our problems lies in the message of Christ yet we ignore it, or are blind to it?
 

logician

Well-Known Member
The main problems with Christianity are twofold.

1. It is much too evangelistic, gaining believers, and thus money and power is too high a priority.

2. It passes off as fact that which cannot be historically proven, while pooh-poohing essentially equalivalent historical religions as pure myth.
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
The problem with christianity, is the same problem all religions have, they discourage, if not forbid fee thought. You are taught to accept what you have been told, no matter how unreasonable it may be, so therefore never seek answers to some of our greatest mysteries. Religions answer is, God created all of this, God said this, Jesus wants us to do this, It's mindless acceptance of, in most cases, the absolute ridicules. Religion wants blind obedience, never to question. Religion makes claims it can never support, and strikes down those who do not believe as they do, hence the billions of humans killed in the name of religion. We now have a combination of Religious fanatics and apocalyptical weponry, Iran, so now all of human kind is on the brink of possible nuclear war, RELIGION IS A THREAT TO CIVILIZATION

Then you don't know that much about religions. You can't put them all in the same grouping like that.
 

McBell

Unbound
My biggest problem with Christianity is that the Christian God does not meet the standards he sets forth.
Also, the Christian God tells his followers to disobey his own commandments.

The Condoning of Slavery by the Christian God seems a bit immoral.

Then there is the whole setting man up to fail in order to justify his sending himself as his son to pay for the sins of man. Sins he allegedly knew man could not help but commit due to his 613+ commandments.

The obvious divisions within Christianity does the religion no favours.

I shall stop there for now.
 

GabrielWithoutWings

Well-Known Member
- The fact that there is no clear consensus on which apostolic church has the Fullness of Faith

- The fact that apostolic churches have become sort of neo-pharisaical institutions with their pronouncements calling people "haters of God," etc.

- The fact that Christian theologians and Jewish theologians interpret the Old Testament/Tanakh differently

- Protestantism

That should be enough for now.
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
My biggest problem with Christianity is the criticisms leveled against it in ignorance.

Of course, that's pretty much my problem with most....things.
 
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