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What flavor Christian are YOU?

Christian Pilgrim

Active Member
i do.

yet i believe that Jesus is talking less about mystical union, but rather the reunification between us and God possible only through baptism in the Holy Spirit.

i also believe that Jesus was crucified and rose bodily from the dead, and that these events are significant, and central.

the oneness Jesus speaks of is not a general, mystical "merging of the self with God" but having the freedom to call God "Abba, Father", to realize how unlike God and far from approaching His glory we are, yet how near He comes to us through Jesus and in Jesus. it's realizing that He is holy, we are sinful, yet He loves us and wants to hear from us daily, and let Him into our lives hour by hour.

This is "The Flavor" of worshiping God in "Spirit and in Truth". All other flavors are imitations (counterfeit) of the real thing. You can only taste and see if the Lord is good through knowing Him in “Spirit and in Truth”. The new birth is required. So I would be bold to say that ayani has tasted and seen that the Lord is good (1 Peter 2)! Counterfeit flavors will give you a fatal stomach ache, causing a "weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (IMO).
 
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blackout

Violet.
This is "The Flavor" of worshiping God in "Spirit and in Truth". All other flavors are imitations (counterfeit) of the real thing. You can only taste and see if the Lord is good through knowing Him in “Spirit and in Truth”. The new birth is required. So I would be bold to say that ayani has tasted and seen that the Lord is good (1 Peter 2)! Counterfeit flavors will give you a fatal stomach ache, causing a "weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (IMO).


ok. So .... "the one true flavor" then?

You worship it and taste it and know it is good.:angel2:





And everyone else dies (of aspartome poisoning).:eek:
Or is sentenced to the eternal melting vat of fake i-scream goo.
Nice!
 

Christian Pilgrim

Active Member
ok. So .... "the one true flavor" then?

You worship it and taste it and know it is good.:angel2:





And everyone else dies (of aspartome poisoning).:eek:
Or is sentenced to the eternal melting vat of fake i-scream goo.
Nice!


My true desire is that everyone tasted the real thing to know for themselves that the Lord is good. I really don't wish an eternal stomach ache on any one, even though we all deserve the eternal stomach ache, causing weeping and gnashing of teeth. We are all invited to partake in the real flavor! Come and dine with the Lord of The True Flavor! Why settle for the artificial when you can have the real thing?

RF Disclosure – this is only a discussion about ice cream; it is not intended to be taken as a sermon (unless you want to).
 
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blackout

Violet.
My true desire is that everyone tasted the real thing to know for themselves that my flavor Lord is good. I really don't wish an eternal stomach ache on any one, even though we all deserve the eternal stomach ache, causing weeping and gnashing of teeth. We are all invited to partake in "the real flavor" ! Come and dine with the Lord of "The True Flavor" (ie., my flavor)! Why settle for the artificial when you can have the real thing?

Legal Disclosure – this is only a discussion about ice cream; it is not intended to be taken as a sermon.

So which flavor is it then? "Real"? or "True".
Oh I know! A real/true flavor blend!
A little flavor contrast is always good. :D

For the sake of legality I must ammend your post.
In purple of course.

Very... ummm.... inspirational commercial you've got there...
*grabbs the kids and runs*
 
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sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
My true desire is that everyone tasted the real thing to know for themselves that the Lord is good. I really don't wish an eternal stomach ache on any one, even though we all deserve the eternal stomach ache, causing weeping and gnashing of teeth. We are all invited to partake in the real flavor! Come and dine with the Lord of The True Flavor! Why settle for the artificial when you can have the real thing?

RF Disclosure – this is only a discussion about ice cream; it is not intended to be taken as a sermon (unless you want to).
We all deserve an eternal stomach ache? Let's see...God is good. God made us, because God wanted to have a love relationship with us. Now, we deserve eternal punishment? Even Texas, by now infamous for its draconian death-sentence legal system, cannot punish eternally. But God (who, once again, is good, and omnipotent) is somehow constrained to torture most of us for eternity?
Wait for me, Violet!

The real thing? Seems that Coke advertised itself as "the real thing." But, there remained on the shelves good ol' RC Cola, which was just as real as Coke.

Seems like I've also heard about a heavenly banquet. Is there only going to be one type of food there? Meat, meat, and ... meat?

"Taste and see..." If we taste only one thing too long, our taste buds no longer taste that particular thing. We need variety.

Seems like having only one flavor forced down one's throat for eternity would cause an eternal stomach ache!
 

blackout

Violet.
.............

The real thing? Seems that Coke advertised itself as "the real thing." But, there remained on the shelves good ol' RC Cola, which was just as real as Coke.

That is too funny!

Does that make "the real thing" a subjective call then?! :eek:

Or a mass marketed enterprise.
 
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Christian Pilgrim

Active Member
We all deserve an eternal stomach ache? Let's see...God is good. God made us, because God wanted to have a love relationship with us. Now, we deserve eternal punishment?


I never posted anything that reflects the comment of "God wanted to have a love relationship with us". I believe Scripture bears testimony to predestination and double-predestination to the praise, honor, and glory of God alone. All are invited and commanded to dine with the Lord. Those who will be dining with the Lord are His vessels of mercy, through the grace of God alone they all (Elect vessels) will be there. If you cannot see yourself as a wretched sinner deserving of eternal punishment, you cannot praise God for His glorious grace and you have no need for The Savior Jesus Christ. If you do not deserve eternal punishment, you will not be able to taste and see that the Lord is good. Jesus came to save those who are sick (eternal stomach ache).

But when he heard it, he said, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. - Jesus the Christ

The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost. - Paul (basic and essential Christianity)
 
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sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
That is too funny!

Does that make "the real thing" a subjective call then?! :eek:

Or a mass marketed enterprise.
Choice "B."
I'd rather drink RC with you than drink Coke "because everyone else is doing it."
Or maybe you'd like some fine wine from the grape-flavored community?
:drunk:
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
I never posted anything that reflects the comment of "God wanted to have a love relationship with us". I believe Scripture bears testimony to predestination and double-predestination to the praise, honor, and glory of God alone. All are invited and commanded to dine with the Lord. Those who will be dining with the Lord are His vessels of mercy, through the grace of God alone they all will be there. If you cannot see yourself as a wretched sinner deserving of eternal punishment, you cannot praise God for His glorious grace and you have no need for The Savior Jesus Christ. If you do not deserve eternal punishment, you will not be able to taste and see that the Lord is good. Jesus came to save those who are sick (eternal stomach ache).

The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost. - Paul (basic and essential Christianity)
You're view is very myopic. I am not a wretched sinner, primarily because Christ Jesus has come and is saving us. Death no longer has dominion. Had I deserved punishment, Jesus would not have come. It is because I do not deserve punishment, but am a beloved child of God, that I am able to "taste and see."
Thank you.
 

Christian Pilgrim

Active Member
You're view is very myopic. I am not a wretched sinner, primarily because Christ Jesus has come and is saving us. Death no longer has dominion. Had I deserved punishment, Jesus would not have come. It is because I do not deserve punishment, but am a beloved child of God, that I am able to "taste and see."
Thank you.

This is a very simple question. Why do you not deserve eternal punishment and please qualify the "us"?
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
This is a very simple question. Why do you not deserve eternal punishment and please qualify the "us"?
Because God created humanity good, and created us with the intention of being in relationship with God. We have gotten dirty. That doesn't deserve death. It deserves washing. Since we couldn't clean ourselves up, and become like God, God became like us, and got dirty with us. (Parable of the leaven.) God is in the process of cleaning us up.

"us" is humanity.
 

Christian Pilgrim

Active Member
Because God created humanity good, and created us with the intention of being in relationship with God. We have gotten dirty. That doesn't deserve death. It deserves washing. Since we couldn't clean ourselves up, and become like God, God became like us, and got dirty with us. (Parable of the leaven.) God is in the process of cleaning us up.

"us" is humanity.

Then I am correct to understand that you as a universalist, correct? Therefore, in your worldview, what you believe really does not matter, correct?
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Then I am correct to understand that you as a universalist, correct? Therefore, in your worldview, what you believe really does not matter, correct?
Wrong. What we believe has a great deal to do with how we react to life.
But: Jesus never said, "Believe these things about me." Jesus did say, "Do what I do."
 

Christian Pilgrim

Active Member
Wrong. What we believe has a great deal to do with how we react to life.
But: Jesus never said, "Believe these things about me." Jesus did say, "Do what I do."

Sojourner,

You glossed over my direct question to you which would clarify things. It almost seems that you believe in a works righteous gospel.

Nicodemus said to him, “How can these things be?” Jesus answered him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things? Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know, and bear witness to what we have seen, but you do not receive our testimony. If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things? No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.
For God So Loved the World

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.” - John 3

I Am the Resurrection and the Life

Now when Jesus came, he found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb four days. Bethany was near Jerusalem, about two miles off, and many of the Jews had come to Martha and Mary to console them concerning their brother. So when Martha heard that Jesus was coming, she went and met him, but Mary remained seated in the house. Martha said to Jesus, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died. But even now I know that whatever you ask from God, God will give you.” Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” Martha said to him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.” Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?” She said to him, “Yes, Lord; I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of God, who is coming into the world.” - Jesus

I Am the Bread of Life

22 On the next day the crowd that remained on the other side of the sea saw that there had been only one boat there, and that Jesus had not entered the boat with his disciples, but that his disciples had gone away alone. 23 Other boats from Tiberias came near the place where they had eaten the bread after the Lord had given thanks. 24 So when the crowd saw that Jesus was not there, nor his disciples, they themselves got into the boats and went to Capernaum, seeking Jesus.

25 When they found him on the other side of the sea, they said to him, “Rabbi, when did you come here?” 26 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, you are seeking me, not because you saw signs, but because you ate your fill of the loaves. 27 Do not labor for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For on him God the Father has set his seal.” 28 Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.” 30 So they said to him, “Then what sign do you do, that we may see and believe you? What work do you perform? 31 Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’” 32 Jesus then said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, it was not Moses who gave you the bread from heaven, but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” 34 They said to him, “Sir, give us this bread always.”

35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.” - John 6
 
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blackout

Violet.
Ok CP, we got your flavor.

Please do not take over the banquet table with your "parchment parfait".
You have plenty of room for that in your own threads.

Anyone else then? Want to share YOUR flavor of christian?
(and PLEASE mostly in your own words)

If your flavor is "parchment parfait" just SAY so.
No need to demonstrate. :p

If you want to "debate" in this thread you MUST speak IN TERMS of flavor.
This is simply because it is MY thread, and I say so.
I am the goddess of this thread. :flirt: Because I created it.

Also,
If your flavor tastes like old napkins...
I'm throwing you into the pit of the eternal bitter churner.
Or the paper shredder. As I deem fit.

The great UV has spoken.
 
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Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
I am salty, red, and hot! .. like the God of Christ, I dont settle for anything less than the precious elixir!

dracula1.jpg
 

blackout

Violet.
I am salty, red, and hot! .. like the God of Christ, I dont settle for anything less than the precious elixir!

dracula1.jpg

The flavor of blood.... (and red hots :p )
with a swirl of death,
and a sprinkling of life (reserved for the elite).

Maybe... the "salvation & sacrifice" special?

Have I got that right?
 

Christian Pilgrim

Active Member
Not that what you believe really matters in your worldview either, given predestination...

Sure it does, since those who are predestined are able to see God in Spirit and in Truth, and by the grace of God, those who are chosen are being transformed into the image of His Son to the praise of His redeeming and transforming grace. Check out this passage to see what I mean.

Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

God's Everlasting Love

What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things? Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies. Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised—who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? As it is written,

“For your sake we are being killed all the day long;
we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.”

No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Romans 8
 
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